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About ten minutes ago, I completed the coolest jam yet with my Max instrument- things are finally starting to sound "as intended".

Fortunately, I had been recording everything using the quick record patch.

Unfortunately, when I hit "stop" on Quick Record, Max froze, and I had to restart.

Now I have an Aiff file with a 62Mb file size, but a file length of zero- obviously it couldn't close the file. I have tried opening it in Soundhack, Audacity, etc.- no worky.

Any suggestions on how to recover this jam? Let me know.....

fixing-a-quick-record-file

On 4 sept. 07, at 21:27, Jeremy Keenan wrote:

> About ten minutes ago, I completed the coolest jam yet with my Max 

> instrument- things are finally starting to sound "as intended".

> Fortunately, I had been recording everything using the quick record 

> Unfortunately, when I hit "stop" on Quick Record, Max froze, and I 

> Now I have an Aiff file with a 62Mb file size, but a file length of 

> zero- obviously it couldn't close the file. I have tried opening it 

> in Soundhack, Audacity, etc.- no worky.

> Any suggestions on how to recover this jam? Let me know.....

You may have a chance with the openraw message for sfplay~ (look 

inside the "raw_data_and_force_header" subpatcher in "new features" 

> About ten minutes ago, I completed the coolest jam yet with my Max  
> instrument- things are finally starting to sound "as intended".
>
> Fortunately, I had been recording everything using the quick record  
> patch.
>
> Unfortunately, when I hit "stop" on Quick Record, Max froze, and I  
> had to restart.
>
> Now I have an Aiff file with a 62Mb file size, but a file length of  
> zero- obviously it couldn't close the file. I have tried opening it  
> in Soundhack, Audacity, etc.- no worky.
>
> Any suggestions on how to recover this jam? Let me know.....

You may have a chance with the openraw message for sfplay~ (look  
inside the "raw_data_and_force_header" subpatcher in "new features"  
subpatcher of sfplay~ help file).

If Classic is still an option for you, there's a

little app called something like 'fix aiff' or 'repair

aiff' that I've managed to succesfully resurect

corrupted files with in the past. Can't find the url

> On 4 sept. 07, at 21:27, Jeremy Keenan wrote:

> > About ten minutes ago, I completed the coolest jam

> > instrument- things are finally starting to sound

> > Fortunately, I had been recording everything using

> > Unfortunately, when I hit "stop" on Quick Record,

> > Now I have an Aiff file with a 62Mb file size, but

> > zero- obviously it couldn't close the file. I have

> > in Soundhack, Audacity, etc.- no worky.

> > Any suggestions on how to recover this jam? Let me

> You may have a chance with the openraw message for

> inside the "raw_data_and_force_header" subpatcher in

If Classic is still an option for you, there's a
little app called something like 'fix aiff' or 'repair
aiff' that I've managed to succesfully resurect
corrupted files with in the past. Can't find the url
right now, but if i do, I'll post it,
cheers
roger

> On 4 sept. 07, at 21:27, Jeremy Keenan wrote:
>
> > About ten minutes ago, I completed the coolest jam
> yet with my Max  
> > instrument- things are finally starting to sound
> "as intended".
> >
> > Fortunately, I had been recording everything using
> the quick record  
> > patch.
> >
> > Unfortunately, when I hit "stop" on Quick Record,
> Max froze, and I  
> > had to restart.
> >
> > Now I have an Aiff file with a 62Mb file size, but
> a file length of  
> > zero- obviously it couldn't close the file. I have
> tried opening it  
> > in Soundhack, Audacity, etc.- no worky.
> >
> > Any suggestions on how to recover this jam? Let me
> know.....
>
> You may have a chance with the openraw message for
> sfplay~ (look  
> inside the "raw_data_and_force_header" subpatcher in
> "new features"  
> subpatcher of sfplay~ help file).
>
> ej
>
>

Thank you! I will try both of these solutions-

hopefully the jam is as cool as I remember, but either way I will learn how to fix this in the future :)

> Now I have an Aiff file with a 62Mb file size, but a file length of

> zero- obviously it couldn't close the file. I have tried opening it

Soundhack can also open any file. Then just set the header with header 

If anything is recorded into these 62 MB it will show up...

If its as good as you remember, share it... ;-)

Jeremy Keenan schrieb:
> Now I have an Aiff file with a 62Mb file size, but a file length of
> zero- obviously it couldn't close the file. I have tried opening it
> in Soundhack, Audacity, etc.- no worky.
>
> Any suggestions on how to recover this jam? Let me know.....

Soundhack can also open any file. Then just set the header with header 
change and save...
Always worked for me...
If anything is recorded into these 62 MB it will show up...

-- 
Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
--_____-----------|--------------
--(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
-- _|_)----|-----()--------------
----------()--------www.ccmix.com

Hey - when I use quick record and specify a location to record to 

(ie. desktop) it always ends up as a file length of zero for some 

reason, however, there is always another file automatically written 

to my max/msp folder that's named 'quickie' followed by the time of 

day and date. Check yr max/msp folder and I bet you'll find your file.

(it will look like this: quickie.2005.9.20.10.41.30.aif)

On 5-Sep-07, at 12:44 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

>> Now I have an Aiff file with a 62Mb file size, but a file length of

>> zero- obviously it couldn't close the file. I have tried opening it

>> in Soundhack, Audacity, etc.- no worky.

>> Any suggestions on how to recover this jam? Let me know.....

> Soundhack can also open any file. Then just set the header with 

> If anything is recorded into these 62 MB it will show up...

> If its as good as you remember, share it... ;-)

Hey - when I use quick record and specify a location to record to  
(ie. desktop) it always ends up as a file length of zero for some  
reason, however, there is always another file automatically written  
to my max/msp folder that's named 'quickie' followed by the time of  
day and date. Check yr max/msp folder and I bet you'll find your file.
(it will look like this: quickie.2005.9.20.10.41.30.aif)

> Jeremy Keenan schrieb:
>> Now I have an Aiff file with a 62Mb file size, but a file length of
>> zero- obviously it couldn't close the file. I have tried opening it
>> in Soundhack, Audacity, etc.- no worky.
>> Any suggestions on how to recover this jam? Let me know.....
>
> Soundhack can also open any file. Then just set the header with  
> header change and save...
> Always worked for me...
> If anything is recorded into these 62 MB it will show up...
>
> If its as good as you remember, share it... ;-)
>
> Stefan
>
> -- 
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>
>

David Smith
smith.david@videotron.ca
www.breakglass.ca

David- yeah, I grabbed it from the MaxMSP folder, where it saved the file.

Cheers, Stefan, I tried forcing a header change in Soundhack, but no avail- it shows up as 0MB in soundhack, despite being 62MB on the desktop....

I tried "open raw" in SFplay~ as well...no avail.

And thank you Roger, though it is a 24 bit AIFF file I'm working with, unfortunately.

I may have to resign myself to a lost cause, and remember it as the best thing I've ever done :)

Thanks for all you help, and certainly will post the file (and my solution), even if the jam turns out to be boring :)

Jeremy, post the .zipped file to one of those free online storage 

places, I'd be happy to take a shot at it...

At 1:19 PM +0100 9/6/07, Jeremy Keenan wrote:

202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major 

Jeremy, post the .zipped file to one of those free online storage 
places, I'd be happy to take a shot at it...

At 1:19 PM +0100 9/6/07, Jeremy Keenan wrote:
>Hmm...
>
>Still struggling with this one.

-- 
Dan Nigrin
Defective Records
202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major 
Malfunction
http://www.defectiverecords.com
http://www.jackosx.com


On 6 sept. 07, at 14:19, Jeremy Keenan wrote:

> I tried "open raw" in SFplay~ as well...no avail.

Did you try openraw in one word? As demonstrated in the help file (in 

the "new features" subpatcher -> "raw_data_and_force_header" 

Did you try openraw in one word? As demonstrated in the help file (in  
the "new features" subpatcher -> "raw_data_and_force_header"  
subpatcher). It's worth a try.

> Cheers, Stefan, I tried forcing a header change in Soundhack, but no

> avail- it shows up as 0MB in soundhack, despite being 62MB on the

You have to open it with "open any", then change the header...

Normal opening can't work, as a valid header deosn't exist yet...

Jeremy Keenan schrieb:
> Cheers, Stefan, I tried forcing a header change in Soundhack, but no
> avail- it shows up as 0MB in soundhack, despite being 62MB on the
> desktop....

Firstly, thank you again to everyone who sent suggestions-

What eventually worked was using the "open any" function in Soundhack and forcing the header to 24 bit stereo-

As promised, here is the jam- I uploaded it to Sendspace, I couldn't squish it down enough to upload it here....

It is, as remembered, very cool (for a live spot anyway). Made entirely from a water bottle, a wooden flute, a bag of crisps, and MaxMSP!

   What eventually worked was using the "open any" function in Soundhack and forcing the header to 24 bit stereo-
 worked perfectly!

   As promised, here is the jam- I uploaded it to Sendspace, I couldn't squish it down enough to upload it here....

   It is, as remembered, very cool (for a live spot anyway). Made entirely from a water bottle, a wooden flute, a bag of crisps, and MaxMSP!  

Fixing a "quick record" file