Adam Kendall

Over the years, I've habitually started new threads on the Max/MSP list by

hitting reply to anything in my Max/MSP/Jitter mailbox. I then do the

obvious of changing the subject line and body.

Even though the subject line changes, the Forum sees the new email with new

subject as a response to the original email and places it in that thread.

Over the years, I've habitually started new threads on the Max/MSP list by
hitting reply to anything in my Max/MSP/Jitter mailbox.  I then do the
obvious of changing the subject line and body.

Even though the subject line changes, the Forum sees the new email with new
subject as a response to the original email and places it in that thread.

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It doesn't work with a lot of email clients too. There's another

piece of data embedded in an email that can be used to tracks

"conversations," regardless of whether the subject changes or not.

It doesn't work with a lot of email clients too.  There's another
piece of data embedded in an email that can be used to tracks
"conversations," regardless of whether the subject changes or not.

This didn't really work with the mailing list either. You've been 

hidden in my thread view for a long time now, which (sanely) relies 

on reply-to headers to know which emails are replies to others.

This didn't really work with the mailing list either. You've been  
hidden in my thread view for a long time now, which (sanely) relies  
on reply-to headers to know which emails are replies to others.

today i read the forum for the second time after 

day 1, and noticed how bad forum and mail is working 

together, too many of us seem to hit reply buttons

i will miss the email list, but in the next days i 

will unsubscribe and switch to using the forum only

this does mean that i will no longer be able to

read all the wonderful off topic posts in the jitter 

forum, but it also means my own posts will go into 

today i read the forum for the second time after 
day 1, and noticed how bad forum and mail is working 
together, too many of us seem to hit reply buttons
for starting new posts, and so i do.

i will miss the email list, but in the next days i 
will unsubscribe and switch to using the forum only
for read and write tasks.

this does mean that i will no longer be able to
read all the wonderful off topic posts in the jitter 
forum, but it also means my own posts will go into 
the right thread in the future.

When I brought this up a year ago, people told me it was the fault of 

my email client, and that I should stop complaining about it. 

However, if it isn't obvious by now to everyone that this behavior 

needs to stop, it never will be. It takes 1/100th of the time you 

spend typing the body of your email to type the first few letters of 

"maxmsp" into your To field before autocomplete takes over.

The reply-to header is a very useful piece of information that can 

enables forum/list integration go smoothly (you still have issues 

with quoting versus non-quoting, but if you use threading in your 

email client, this is negated). Without it, it would be incredibly 

difficult (you'd have to guess by the subject). To ignore it or abuse 

it makes the forums and threaded email clients less useful (or worse, 

I know I sound like a whiny brat, but the abuse of reply-to literally 

doubles the amount of time I have to spend parsing the Max list to 

find what is interesting/helpful/etc. This is a high volume list, and 

if I want to look at everything that goes through, threads can knock 

five minutes off my email time each day and make it less of a hassle 

When I brought this up a year ago, people told me it was the fault of  
my email client, and that I should stop complaining about it.  
However, if it isn't obvious by now to everyone that this behavior  
needs to stop, it never will be. It takes 1/100th of the time you  
spend typing the body of your email to type the first few letters of  
"maxmsp" into your To field before autocomplete takes over.

The reply-to header is a very useful piece of information that can  
enables forum/list integration go smoothly (you still have issues  
with quoting versus non-quoting, but if you use threading in your  
email client, this is negated). Without it, it would be incredibly  
difficult (you'd have to guess by the subject). To ignore it or abuse  
it makes the forums and threaded email clients less useful (or worse,  
unusable, as is now basically the case).

I know I sound like a whiny brat, but the abuse of reply-to literally  
doubles the amount of time I have to spend parsing the Max list to  
find what is interesting/helpful/etc. This is a high volume list, and  
if I want to look at everything that goes through, threads can knock  
five minutes off my email time each day and make it less of a hassle  
as well.

see john, you name it, quoting and not quoting 

is the next issue we have when 50% uf us are 

back in the days noone ever used the archieves

for other purposes than searching, and proper 

now many people use the archieves (=forum), because 

that why my call for moving to the forum.

- sabine christiansen 110 (rababababa...)

see john, you name it, quoting and not quoting 
is the next issue we have when 50% uf us are 
using the forum and 50% reading mails.

back in the days noone ever used the archieves
for other purposes than searching, and proper 
threads were not required for that.
now many people use the archieves (=forum), because 
you can also reply here now.

 - sabine christiansen 110 (rababababa...)


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