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					<title><![CDATA[Functionality of the #0- tag.]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>farfisavox</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hi guys, I&#8217;ve implemented the #0- in a patch. I&#8217;ve used it for [send] and [receive] objects as well as [buffer~] [groove] and [waveform~]</p>
<p>So I load up two instances of the patch and they both seem to be getting conflicting data from eachother as if the #0- tags aren&#8217;t there. </p>
<p>To confirm I write it like this &#8211; [buffer~ #0-sample 2 2]</p>
<p>Am I misunderstanding the functionality of the #0- tag here?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Functionality of the #0- tag.]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>yp</dc:creator>

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						<p>The syntax you are using is correct.<br />
It&#8217;ll be helpful if you could show us the patch in question.</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
yp</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Functionality of the #0- tag.]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Roth</dc:creator>

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						<p>As far as I know <code>#0</code> only works the way you want when it is used in an abstraction (not in a top level patch or a subpatcher).  The fact that this does not behave like <code>$0</code> in Pd is the only thing I regular miss about Pd now that Max got new object key commands in Max5.</p>
<p>There is also teh <code>---</code> prefix that works like <code>#0</code> in the top level of a Max4Live device. According to Andrew Pask&#8217;s post in this thread (<a href="http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=23379" rel="nofollow">http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=23379</a>) it seems like <code>---</code> should work in Max as well, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to for me in the latest version of Max5 or Max6. I seem to remember when that thread came up a couple years ago trying <code>---</code> in Max and finding it worked for some things and not others (either <code>send</code>/<code>receive</code> or <code>buffer~</code>) but now it seems to not do anything useful.</p>
<p>Feature Request (if any Cycling74 developers see this): I&#8217;ve always been a little confused about why <code>#0</code> wasn&#8217;t designed to work in top level patches, but I imagine it will stay that way since for Pluggo/Max4Live <code>---</code> was added instead. Did <code>---</code> ever work for top level patches in Max (not Pluggo or Max4Live)? If so can we have it back and if not can we have it as it seems like a good feature? Also, the thread I linked above seems to imply that <code>#0</code> should work in subpatchers, but my testing in the latest Max5 and Max6 seem to show that it doesn&#8217;t—did this ever work and if it did can this functionality be restored?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Functionality of the #0- tag.]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>farfisavox</dc:creator>

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						<p>Thanks for the insight Roth. I&#8217;ve been using it in top level patchers such as this: </p>
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<p>(load up two instances and you will see my problem)</p>
<p>would simply encapsulating all send and receive objects make them work properly?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Functionality of the #0- tag.]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>yp</dc:creator>

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						<p>It&#8217;s not enough to just encapsulate them. You&#8217;ll have to save the encapsulation as an abstraction (just a normal patch) and then use the abstraction in the top-level patch.</p>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>farfisavox</dc:creator>

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						<p>Ah I see. My plan was to make a modular live video mixing environment. </p>
<p>The idea was to have each module able to be called up multiple times without conflict. </p>
<p>I guess I&#8221;m gonna have to make each module an Abstraction then have the top level patch call them up.</p>
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