Kim Cascone

is there no longer a .help file for the gain~ object?

gain-help

Quote: Kim Cascone wrote on Wed, 18 October 2006 13:24

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> is there no longer a .help file for the gain~ object?

it has been removed because it was too loud.

Quote: Kim Cascone wrote on Wed, 18 October 2006 13:24
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> is there no longer a .help file for the gain~ object?
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On Oct 18, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:

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On Oct 18, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:

> is there no longer a .help file for the gain~ object?
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> Some people consider this very sensible. Multiplying by 1.0 is pushing 

> your luck with clipping. Multiplying by 0.9921875 (MIDI 127) gives a 

> bit more safety. The difference between the two is a tiny fraction of 

> 1dB, not an audible difference in musical contexts.

I don't agree, 1.0 is just no change to the input - granted. If you are 

in danger with clipping in that case, think it clipped already before.

Depends on the application of course, but 128 for unity would not allow 

to set a Midi slider to a no change position without correcting it (with 

On the other hand, I never use gain~ anyway, I don't like its curve. 

Peter Castine wrote:
> Some people consider this very sensible. Multiplying by 1.0 is  pushing 
> your luck with clipping. Multiplying by 0.9921875 (MIDI 127)  gives a 
> bit more safety. The difference between the two is a tiny  fraction of 
> 1dB, not an audible difference in musical contexts.

I don't agree, 1.0 is just no change to the input - granted. If you are 
in danger with clipping in that case, think it clipped already before.

Depends on the application of course, but 128 for unity would not allow 
to set a Midi slider to a no change position without correcting it (with 
lp.scampf or lp.scampi of course ;-)

On the other hand, I never use gain~ anyway, I don't like its curve. 
Personally I don't care...

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> > Some people consider this very sensible. Multiplying by 1.0 is pushing 

> > your luck with clipping. Multiplying by 0.9921875 (MIDI 127) gives a 

> > bit more safety. The difference between the two is a tiny fraction of 

> > 1dB, not an audible difference in musical contexts.

> I don't agree, 1.0 is just no change to the input - granted. If you are 

> in danger with clipping in that case, think it clipped already before.

> On the other hand, I never use gain~ anyway, I don't like its curve.

ja genau! an integer gain object, what a stupid idea!

> Peter Castine wrote:
> > Some people consider this very sensible. Multiplying by 1.0 is  pushing 
> > your luck with clipping. Multiplying by 0.9921875 (MIDI 127)  gives a 
> > bit more safety. The difference between the two is a tiny  fraction of 
> > 1dB, not an audible difference in musical contexts.
>
> I don't agree, 1.0 is just no change to the input - granted. If you are 
> in danger with clipping in that case, think it clipped already before.

> On the other hand, I never use gain~ anyway, I don't like its curve. 

> ja genau! an integer gain object, what a stupid idea!

well, if you're gonna control it with a real world controler you'd 

appreciate it. And even a screen control would have only integer 

Roman Thilenius wrote:
> ja genau! an integer gain object, what a stupid idea!

well, if you're gonna control it with a real world controler you'd 
appreciate it. And even a screen control would have only integer 
resolution determined by pixels...

gain~.help?