Danny

Does anyone know of any max patches that use either genetic algorithms or neural networks? I have found work by Ollie Bown but little else. Anything, no matter how simple, would be appreciated.

Does anyone know of any max patches that use either genetic algorithms or neural networks?  I have found work by Ollie Bown but little else.  Anything, no matter how simple, would be appreciated.

genetic-algorithms-and-neural-networks

We did some really basic stuff in some of our older classes, not sure 

http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/courses/g6611/spring2005/week6/

http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/courses/g6611/spring2005/week5/

http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/courses/g6610/fall2005/week7/

On Apr 23, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Danny wrote:

> Does anyone know of any max patches that use either genetic 

> algorithms or neural networks? I have found work by Ollie Bown but 

> little else. Anything, no matter how simple, would be appreciated.

We did some really basic stuff in some of our older classes, not sure  
how well they work:

    http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/courses/g6611/spring2005/week6/ 
index.html
    http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/courses/g6611/spring2005/week5/ 
index.html
    http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/courses/g6610/fall2005/week7/ 
index.html

>
> Does anyone know of any max patches that use either genetic  
> algorithms or neural networks?  I have found work by Ollie Bown but  
> little else.  Anything, no matter how simple, would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Danny


I'm really interested in this too. In fact, I was just getting my feet wet with this earlier in the week. Got motivated to post my notes tonight:

http://compusition.com/web/news/2008/04/23

I'm not sure this is what you are looking for, because I am using Ruby for these sorts of things. But I really like interfacing all this stuff with Max, lots of interesting possibilities.

I'm also not entirely sure how this Grammatical Evolution stuff ties in with more standard Evolutionary Algorithms (mutation, etc)... still so much learning to do!

I'm really interested in this too. In fact, I was just getting my feet wet with this earlier in the week. Got motivated to post my notes tonight:
http://compusition.com/web/news/2008/04/23

I'm also not entirely sure how this Grammatical Evolution stuff ties in with more standard Evolutionary Algorithms (mutation, etc)... still so much learning to do!


http://www.nime.org/2004/NIME04/paper/NIME04_1C05.pdf

Assaf Talmudi explains an approach using genetic algoritms for which he had produced a max object (called beagle) that worked with a max version in macos 9. He might be persuaded into providing a version that works with more contemporary versions.

In this paper:
http://www.nime.org/2004/NIME04/paper/NIME04_1C05.pdf
Assaf Talmudi explains an approach using genetic algoritms for which he had produced a max object (called beagle) that worked with a max version in macos 9. He might be persuaded into providing a version that works with more contemporary versions.

you're welcome to take a look at the ICMC 07 /LNCS paper on the neural net improv system I developed using Olivier Pasquet's op.fann.mlp (on my website)

I'm really interested in this kind of stuff too.

Bill Vorn's LifeTools is a good starting point.

http://billvorn.concordia.ca/research/software/lifetools.html

I don't know when you saw Ollie Bown Max page but everything has change since the last time I saw it.

http://www.olliebown.com/main_blog/?page_id=5

I'm looking forward to see what everyone come up with Genetic Algorithms and Neural Networks ideas.

I'm really interested in this kind of stuff too.
Bill Vorn's LifeTools is a good starting point.

I'm looking forward to see what everyone come up with Genetic Algorithms and Neural Networks ideas.


This is an exploding field! Here are two my current favorites...

Creative Evolutionary Systems (With CD-ROM) (The Morgan Kaufmann 

Series in Artificial Intelligence) by David W. Corne and Peter J. 

The Art of Artificial Evolution: A Handbook on Evolutionary Art and 

Music (Natural Computing Series) (Hardcover by Juan Romero (Editor), 

The DVD with the second one includes my film "Progeny." Both sound 

and image where made with evolutionary (genetic) algorithms. You can 

hear and see it on my web page below. Also check out "To the Edge, 

(solo marimba)" "Bifurcate me, baby" (Disklavier) and "Colony," 

pieces composed using the logistic map (chaos). In "Colony," voice 

data for a bank of Proteus 1/2/3 synths was edited algorithmically in 

realtime using the crossover and mutation objects in my random number 

> Sorry, it's probably overly technical. - Adam Murray (below)

"Everything should be made as simple as possible but not simpler" - 

"Did you think it would be obvious? ... Did you think it would be ... 

easy?" - Christine Gorbach in our film "My Regards"

On Apr 24, 2008, at 2:59 AM, Adam Murray wrote:

> I'm really interested in this too. In fact, I was just getting my 

> feet wet with this earlier in the week. Got motivated to post my 

> I'm not sure this is what you are looking for, because I am using 

> Ruby for these sorts of things. But I really like interfacing all 

> this stuff with Max, lots of interesting possibilities.

> I'm also not entirely sure how this Grammatical Evolution stuff 

> ties in with more standard Evolutionary Algorithms (mutation, 

This is an exploding field!  Here are two my current favorites...

Creative Evolutionary Systems (With CD-ROM) (The Morgan Kaufmann  
Series in Artificial Intelligence) by David W. Corne and Peter J.  
Bentley

The Art of Artificial Evolution: A Handbook on Evolutionary Art and  
Music (Natural Computing Series) (Hardcover by Juan Romero (Editor),  
Penousal Machado (Editor)

The DVD with the second one includes my film "Progeny." Both sound  
and image where made with evolutionary (genetic) algorithms.  You can  
hear and see it on my web page below.  Also check out "To the Edge,  
(solo marimba)" "Bifurcate me, baby" (Disklavier) and  "Colony,"   
pieces composed using the logistic map (chaos).  In "Colony," voice  
data for a bank of Proteus 1/2/3 synths was edited algorithmically in  
realtime using the crossover and mutation objects in my random number  
package.

"Everything should be made as simple as possible but not simpler" -  
Einstein
"Did you think it would be obvious? ... Did you think it would be ...  
easy?" - Christine Gorbach in our film "My Regards"

Cheers
Gary Lee Nelson
TIMARA Department
Oberlin College
www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

>
> I'm really interested in this too. In fact, I was just getting my  
> feet wet with this earlier in the week. Got motivated to post my  
> notes tonight:
> http://compusition.com/web/news/2008/04/23
>
> Sorry, it's probably overly technical.
>
> I'm not sure this is what you are looking for, because I am using  
> Ruby for these sorts of things. But I really like interfacing all  
> this stuff with Max, lots of interesting possibilities.
>
> I'm also not entirely sure how this Grammatical Evolution stuff  
> ties in with more standard Evolutionary Algorithms (mutation,  
> etc)... still so much learning to do!
>
>
> --
> Adam Murray
> compusition.com
