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Granular Synthesis in Max/MSP

April 5, 2008 | 11:05 pm

Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find a Granular synthesis patch for Max/MSP. Does anyone know where I can find websites that have more patches that I can download? Thank you very much.

-John


April 5, 2008 | 11:57 pm

the granular toolkit:

http://www.nathanwolek.com/software.html


April 6, 2008 | 10:39 am

Thanks for replying. I went to the link you sent me, but when I downloaded the toolkit I couldn’t open anything. What is the toolkit exactly? I couldn’t find any patches in the Toolkit that I downloaded for Windows XP. Do I need some other programs for this? Thank you again!


April 6, 2008 | 4:45 pm

Take a look at:

MaxMSP > Examples > Sampling > Granular > granularized.pat

You can also look at:

http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/2007-January/020382.html

Cheers

Jules


April 6, 2008 | 5:22 pm

Quote: Electrasound wrote on Sun, 06 April 2008 06:39
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> Thanks for replying. I went to the link you sent me, but when I downloaded the toolkit I couldn’t open anything. What is the toolkit exactly? I couldn’t find any patches in the Toolkit that I downloaded for Windows XP. Do I need some other programs for this? Thank you again!
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the toolkit contains 11 external objects and a bunch of abstractions. most of these have help files. the thing to do is to unzip the file, and copy the contents of the "GranTK_1.49win/abstractions/" and "GranTK_1.49win/externals" folders to the max externals folder (usually "C:Program FilesCommon FilesCycling ’74externals" on winxp) then copy the contents of "GranTK_1.49win help/externals help/" and "GranTK_1.49 help/abstractions help/" to the max help folder (for me, that’s "C:Program FilesCycling ’74MaxMSP 4.5max-help", but may be different depending on your version of max), then copy the contents of the "extras/" folder to the max extras folder (again, for me this is "C:Program FilesCycling ’74MaxMSP 4.5patchesextras"), then when you next load max, in the Extras menu, there will be an entry called gtk.objectGuide, open it. it contains a list of all the patches and externals. ALT-click them to open their help files.

… or you could read the readme file.



Ron
April 8, 2008 | 11:51 pm

and where do you get these wonders?

ron

Kenneth Stewart wrote: Try munger~ and/or munger1~.

I have had tons of success with these awesome objects.

-Ken

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April 9, 2008 | 12:40 am

http://www.maxobjects.com/?request=munger~&operateur=AND&id_plateforme=0&Submit=OK

maxobjects.com is your best friend : )

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April 10, 2008 | 12:07 am

fof and fog objects may be of interest to you. Developed at IRCAM by a
number of people, including one of my tutors, Michael Clarke.
Fof is for formant synthesis, and fog for granular. Unfortunately I don’t
know where you can get them from as Dr Clarke sent them to me himself.

On 06/04/2008, John wrote:
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> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find a Granular
> synthesis patch for Max/MSP. Does anyone know where I can find websites
> that have more patches that I can download? Thank you very much.
>
>
> -John
>


April 10, 2008 | 3:50 am

I could be wrong, but I think fof and fog are part of the IRCAM forum software subscription. In the research collection is my guess?

Here is the link to the IRCAM forum software, doesn’t list all the objects so I can’t be sure where it is.


April 10, 2008 | 11:35 am

Hello John,

Try my external for this, it’ll almost certainly be faster than a pure
MSP implementation:

http://ddm.caad.ed.ac.uk/staff/michael/software/mdegranular/mdegranular.html#downloads

Best,

Michael

John wrote:
> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find a Granular
> synthesis patch for Max/MSP. Does anyone know where I can find
> websites that have more patches that I can download? Thank you very
> much.
>
> -John _______________________________________________ maxmsp mailing
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Music Technology Email: michael.edwards@ed.ac.uk
The University of Edinburgh
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http://www.ace.ed.ac.uk/Postgraduate/dcp

http://uofe.michael-edwards.org/



/k
April 10, 2008 | 12:29 pm

Hi!
this is (maybe) my first post…
I developed a simple patch for realtime granulation…
you can find it here :

http://www.cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/Share/AlessioSantini

I hope will be useful for you…

bye


April 11, 2008 | 5:21 am

Quote: Roth wrote on Wed, 09 April 2008 20:50
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> I could be wrong, but I think fof and fog are part of the IRCAM forum software subscription. In the research collection is my guess?

Doesn’t Csound support FOF and FOG? And there is csound~ for Max/MSP object. (no idea if it all works together, haven’t tried)


April 11, 2008 | 7:14 am

Granular synthesis is one area where it really pays to write externals in MaxMSP, so several people have done so. I have two externals in LyonPotpourri, granule~ and granulesf~ – one for synthesis from complete waveforms and the other for granulating longer waveforms, such as recordings.

http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/

In addition to reasonably flexible built-in algorithms, my externals allow the user to specify individual grains, so that it is easy to implement arbitrary granular algorithms. For example, sending a granule~ object the message:

grain 200 440 0.7 0.1

produces a 200 ms grain at 440 Hz, amplitude of 0.7 panned mostly to the left.

A quick test of this approach, driving 200 ms duration grains from a metro at a periodicity of 5 ms (200 grains per second) costs about 4% of the CPU on my MacBook.

Eric


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