Groove~ and Click

Jun 12, 2006 at 5:54am

Groove~ and Click

Hi!
I’m new un MAx msp,. I’ve made a simple patch with Groove to sample audio in real time.But the groove~ make some click in Loop mode.I’ve tryed a lot of issue but no succes. Is there a way to avoid these Click?

Regards

Nicolas

#26373
Jun 12, 2006 at 9:56am

have you tried using the Loop Sync Output? or turning loop interpolation on?

#78752
Jun 12, 2006 at 11:43am

Hi!
Thx but loopinterp $1 don’t avoid click.And how can use Loop sync output to avoid these click?

Regards

Nicolas

#78753
Jun 12, 2006 at 12:20pm

you cannot. it is not the groove~ object which causes
clicks, it is the fact that you are looping the sample.

you could process the sample in the buffer by filtering
the end and begin in a way to avoid clicks, but that is
out of the question as soon as you want to have dynamic
start and end points for the loop.

i am using waves restoration in OS 9 and powercore
resoration plug-ins in OS X but you can also make a
simple declicker right in you max app behind the groove …

-110

#78754
Jun 12, 2006 at 12:25pm

old problem……..
I use an external from taptools.

Good stuff

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#78755
Jun 12, 2006 at 1:01pm
#78756
Jun 12, 2006 at 1:02pm

I think what youre probably after (its free) is the xgroove-external
from the xsample library.

http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/~thomas/ext/

cheers.
m

#78757
Jun 12, 2006 at 1:57pm

or use

tap.buffer.snap~

to exactify your loop points.

(hmm – exactify – nice!)

David

#78758
Jun 12, 2006 at 3:25pm

did i miss something? why can’t loop sync be used to make an envelope for the sample? like trapezoid~?

#78759
Jun 12, 2006 at 4:40pm

I place a 10 ms 40dB ramp in the audio at the start of the record and then hold off the end of recording for 10ms while I do the same to the tail. I also use snapshot to do a similar shaping at playback. However this playback shaping is only applied when varying the start and stop points. Also make sure you AC couple the audio (dcblocker~) right before it hits the record buffer.

The timing of the above system is slightly (10ms) behind (and long) so I have a pre-delay I can invoke when fixing the initial offset is critical, but I just live with the extra length. I have found this approach to let me sample, loop and modify with impunity.

KMc

Roman Thilenius wrote:

you cannot. it is not the groove~ object which causes
clicks, it is the fact that you are looping the sample.

you could process the sample in the buffer by filtering
the end and begin in a way to avoid clicks, but that is
out of the question as soon as you want to have dynamic
start and end points for the loop.

i am using waves restoration in OS 9 and powercore
resoration plug-ins in OS X but you can also make a
simple declicker right in you max app behind the groove …

-110

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