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					<title><![CDATA[Help revive my sampler!]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>cooperthornton@comcast.net</dc:creator>

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						<p>So I wrote this sampler back in school, and I had some fantastic results with it, but then my trial ran out. Now, it opens, but the samples wont load. I&#8217;d like to get it running as a standalone and RTAS, AU, or VST, and make it free for people to use. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been so long I have forgotten everything I learned ;( I need to relearn this stuff because I loved working w/ the program.</p>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Mattijs</dc:creator>

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						<p>Moving this topic to the MaxMSP forum.</p>
<p>Mattijs</p>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Tokyo Rose</dc:creator>

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						<p>Nice sampler, good look to it, too. When I try it out really quickly, I can get samples to load by opening the
</p><p samplescopy> patch and manually loading samples into each buffer by clicking on every buffers &#8220;read&#8221; message. Then just really quickly trying, I click loop 1 and start point of 0 for everything and I get full playback. So if you&#8217;re just trying to get the
</p><p samplescopy> patch to work, other than the fact that you spelled <loadmess> wrong(you spelled it, &#8220;loadmedss&#8221;< -extra "d" at the end there), you could also just use <loadbang> and attach it to every single &#8220;read&#8221; message so that the user will be prompted immediately on opening to load up soundfiles into every patch.</loadmess></p>
<p>Your <loadmess> object also has the message &#8220;buffer~&#8221; as its argument which won&#8217;t do anything if you send it to any of the buffer~s. So if you want it to automatically read files, then, I&#8217;d recommend several </loadmess><loadmess> objects with &#8220;read [filename]&#8221; messages for every single buffer~. I prefer the &#8220;replace&#8221; message for buffer~ however, because &#8220;replace&#8221; will resize the buffer~ automatically according to the length of the soundfile. Not quite sure what you want but that would be a good starting-point: </loadmess><loadmess read [filename]> or </loadmess><loadmess replace [filename]> for ever buffer~.</loadmess></p>
<p>You can also attach a message &#8220;read [filename]&#8221; to every buffer~ or &#8220;replace [filename]&#8221; to every buffer~ and then trigger every single one with a single <loadbang>. That&#8217;s probably your best option.</loadbang></p>
<p>Hope that helps and that I understood you correctly.</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>cooperthornton@comcast.net</dc:creator>

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						<p>Awesome. Thanks, I put a good deal of time into using photoshop to best utilize the ~image function. I&#8217;m glad you got it to work too, as I said, I need to buy a copy of Max so I can start tweeking again. If someone had the time, I&#8217;d like to get a standalone version of this working, even if it&#8217;s just w/ MaxRuntime. I just would like to get it to the point I can open it, and like you said, add a ~loadbang to the sample load spots to load samples into each slot right off the bat. </p>
<p>How would I go about making this into a RTAS/VST/AU? is any one easiest? I would really like to do this but have no idea how.</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Tokyo Rose</dc:creator>

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						<p>Eventually, the ability to make Pluggo plug-ins using Max5 will be added, in the meantime, you could do it in Max4.6. Actually, when I save your Max4.6 patch as a Max5 .maxpat file, the application freezes pretty badly. You might have to rebuild the whole thing to figure out how to get it to work properly in Max5(opening your old patch up works just fine but when I go to save it and then reopen it as a Max5 patch, it never opens and I have to force-quit Max5&#8230;not sure why&#8230;but if you do get Max5 you&#8217;d want to relearn/remake it rather than just save it quickly and modify&#8230; just so you know ahead of time).</p>
<p> Pluggo allows you to load your patches as VST plug-ins in audio-host applications that support VSTs. That would be the easiest. There&#8217;s also an audio-unit converter you could probably find it by searching these forums for &#8220;audio unit&#8221; or &#8220;au&#8221;&#8230; no wait, it&#8217;s the au~ object found here in this thread:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&#038;goto=147536&#038;rid=0&#038;srch=audio+unit#msg_147536" rel="nofollow">http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&#038;goto=147536&#038;rid=0&#038;srch=audio+unit#msg_147536</a></p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Ben Bracken</dc:creator>

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						<p>took a quick look and it looks like yr patch will save and open fine in Max 5 if you remove the preset object or send a &#8216;clearall&#8217; message to it.  Didn&#8217;t look too closely, but i&#8217;ve seen this issue before.  There is probably some corrupt data in there, or some things that are just not compatible with the way that preset handles stuff now.</p>
<p>-b</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>f</dc:creator>

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						<p>the built in max4->max5 patch importer cannot be completely trusted.   <br />
i found at least 4 bugs&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&#038;goto=146280" rel="nofollow">http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&#038;goto=146280</a><br />
(but got no reply from cycling)<br />
so if your old max4 patches uses bpatcher script names, min/max  <br />
settings for number~, fpic offsets and filtergraph~ fonts, you might  <br />
want to recreate those objects manually.</p>
<p>also i heard of patchlines getting lost in the process, but i haven&#8217;t  <br />
seen that myself.<br />
_f</p>
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6 aug 2008 kl. 15.15 skrev Ben Bracken:</p>
<p>><br />
> took a quick look and it looks like yr patch will save and open  <br />
> fine in Max 5 if you remove the preset object or send a &#8216;clearall&#8217;  <br />
> message to it.  Didn&#8217;t look too closely, but i&#8217;ve seen this issue  <br />
> before.  There is probably some corrupt data in there, or some  <br />
> things that are just not compatible with the way that preset  <br />
> handles stuff now.<br />
><br />
> -b<br />
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<p>
   #|<br />
      fredrikolofsson.com     klippav.org     musicalfieldsforever.com<br />
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Ben Bracken</dc:creator>

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						<p>fredrik,</p>
<p>Although we actually do make a serious effort look at every post, every once in a while there are ones that fall through the cracks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take a look at the thread that you posted to the Dev list (which is generally for questions regarding the SDK and external development), which I did not see until now.  In the future, I would recommend posting directly to the Max list or sending a bug report to support at cycling74 dot com.</p>
<p>-Ben</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Tokyo Rose</dc:creator>

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						<p>Oh snap! That <a href="mailto:ben@cycling74.com">ben@cycling74.com</a> is good.</p>
<p>Deleting and recreating the preset object fixed the save problem so I was able to make a quick mod of your patch, Coop, and here it is with buttons at the top so you can load in soundfiles at any time.</p>
<p>If you want you could run it using runtime at the bottom of this download list:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cycling74.com/downloads/max5" rel="nofollow">http://www.cycling74.com/downloads/max5</a></p>
<p>But you&#8217;ll have to fix the freeverb~ inclusion yourself, and the other effects, as well as rewrite the presets, etc. Should be easy, from here, though if you felt like it.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Tokyo Rose</dc:creator>

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						<p>sorry, uploaded the wrong one(this one has chord3 selection added to each umenu so that you can actually access that buffer~). best of luck.</p>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>cooperthornton@comcast.net</dc:creator>

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						<p>Damn, the changes to max5 really made it look a lot cleaner. Much more like a &#8220;real&#8221; plugin. I couldn&#8217;t get it to work with runtime, but it looks like I&#8217;m going to have to just sack up and buy a copy of Max and put some work in. A+ for the effort, you&#8217;ve motivated me to finish it and make it work damn it. </p>
<p>Thanks for the heads up on the ~clearall too. I&#8217;m going to take that into consideration during the rebuild. I gotta do it, I got such wicked results from the first track I recorded out of it, I&#8217;m hooked. Anyone know if there&#8217;s a way to sync the samples playback to themselves&#8230; or to an external clock? The first would be great, but later would be outstanding.</p>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Tokyo Rose</dc:creator>

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						<p>You can sync the samples to themselves using the right-outlet(sync-outlet of groove~). The new Max5 transport object makes syncing to an external clock extremely easy, too. Sometimes, I have trouble with achieving sample-accurate sync with groove~ however, because the start-trigger of groove~ depends on a non-signal number going into the left-most inlet and if you were to input a signal into that same inlet, it would only change the speed(maybe someone else can demonstrate sample-accuracy-playback with groove~ better than I can). But basically, at some point, the playback-trigger seems to exist outside of the signal realm. So, instead, there are some more advanced ways to do this: you could use the wave~ or even the index~ or cycle~ object and build a groove~-like playback-mechanism from scratch.<br />
I&#8217;d recommend first, once you&#8217;re all set up with Max5(or even 4.6), take a look at the examples in the sampling folder:<br />
Max5(or4.6)/examples/sampling<br />
and also in the sequencing-looping folder:<br />
Max5(or4.6)/examples/sequencing-looping</p>
<p>Then try syncing groove~ to a transport object(transport is only available in Max5).<br />
Then, once you&#8217;ve gotten to a certain point with having the elements in place and made choices about which playback-method(s) you want to use, feel free to post your patch here again(or on a new thread) and I&#8217;m sure I or someone will be able to help you further(you can also feel free to private-message me, I&#8217;ll be out of town for the next week, but after that, I need to work on my own sample-accurate sampler, so I can definitely help you further; i&#8217;ve been using groove~ and decided recently to try something different(i&#8217;m going to try using wave~ or index~)).<br />
Also, in Max5, feel free to take a look at a jitter example((my shameless self-promotion, here) which is only meant to show that simple audio samplers could be achieved using jitter-matrices) available here:<br />
Max5/examples/jitter-examples/audio/jit.sampler-exampler.maxpat<br />
It&#8217;s a bit convoluted, but it can show you how to do some interesting windowing/auto-amplitude-enveloping(in the
</p><p granularduck> subpatcher; which actually just combines the granular example with the grooveducking example (which are also found in the examples folder within the two(sampling/sequencing) folders I mentioned before).</p>
<p>Best of luck and have fun with it.</p>
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