Cycling 74 » Topic: Hi and Windows

Hi and Windows

vi- — Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:34:39 +0000

Hello

It seems that the Hi objet doesn’t work with mice and keyboards and my windows XP… Ben Nevil told me that this object doesn”t work on this OS. But e–j on the idecibel.com french forum told me (without any explanations) that the hi objet work on this computeur, even with a mac keyboard.

please help…

vi-

Re: Hi and Windows

vi- — Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:48:09 +0000

sorry…
i ve just receive an answer from e–j…
it apears that it was an oversight.. the hi object
doesnt work on windows.. i have to do with it…

vi-

Re: Hi and Windows

Nat — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:52:08 +0000

It will work for joysticks on windows but for some sad reason does not work for the keyboard and mice…

Re: Hi and Windows

f.e — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:52:17 +0000

What is [hi] supposed to do ? I’ve tested it for the record with a
joystick, but i don’t use it. I assume it’s about handling Human
Interface devices ?! It should not be so hard to write a working C
object for win, using the win32 api… I’ve tested some bindings with it
in Java or Python and it works great. A C one will be better, for sure,
but my C knowledge (as my time) is still limited. If he finds time for,
i’m sure it’s a job for jasch !

f.e

Re: Hi and Windows

VG — Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:19:01 +0000

The Hi object works on Xp with a joystick but only 1 joystick. I wrote
to C74 team several emails to ask for upgrade the hi object, so
that it could handle more than 1 joystick and the last reply from Ben
Neville was:

“”
If you are using the most up-to-date version of the hi object, then the
Windows code and the Macintosh code are identical in how they handle
duplicate names. What that means is that if only one device is showing
up in Max on Windows, the operating system is only communicating the
existence of a single device to the hi object. Sorry for the bad news.
If you can find a piece of Windows software that will communicate with
two of the same joysticks at the same time then I will investigate further.
“”

Since Max is meant to handle real time processing, such a feature that
would be great
step forward, to plug whatever weird USB device into Max…
(and there are so many of them!)

AFAIK, every joystick show up in the windows setting panel but they have
the same
name though i guess they must have a unique “CLSID” or “UIID” or
whatever “ID”
somewhere (but I don’t know much about win32 programming style)

Can any windows guru help providing the needed piece of software mentionned
by Ben to the C74 team?

A fix has been made for the Mac version of hi, which can now handle
up to 1024 devices (though I tested only with 20 of them), while it
used to managed only 16 before.

Also, for windows Hi users, note that the parameters codes are not the
same as Mac’s
and the value are not always contigous: there might be a bit shift that
make values
go 0 128 256 384 … etc.
For a multiplatform version of a patch, these changes can be handled by
sending the
whereami message “;max getsystem WhateverName”.
Scale/bitshift/reroute the values accoding to the “macintosh” or
“windows” answer
received by a “receive WaheteverName” object.

Another question left about this:
will the intel mac bring the Mac benefits or the Win problems?
mmm… OK, this may be [OT] for now… ;-)

Any help or advice is welcome on the windows Hi issue!!…

vincent

Re: Hi and Windows

nesa — Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:45:32 +0000

Hello,
a workaround is to use 3rd party joystick external, you’ll surely be able to
find it through excellent http://www.maxobjects.com
This worked for me, I had two different controllers, both genius, and hi
couldn’t see them both. But Hi+Joystick worked fine, if I remember
correctly…

Best,
nesa

ps. sorry for typos, for some reason, after reinstalling xp, I lost spell
checking option in e-mail.