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If I double click on a sub patch it will open to diplay its contents, but it I ctrl-click on the background it will not go into edit mode.

how-to-edit-sub-patches

On 25 janv. 07, at 01:34, Max Planck wrote:

> If I double click on a sub patch it will open to diplay its 

> contents, but it I ctrl-click on the background it will not go into 

If you can't edit, it's certainly because it's an abstraction not a 

subpatcher (the abstraction is just an independent file on the hard 

disk). In order to edit the abstraction, you'll have to make an option 

+click on the window title (click on the name) and select the 

abstraction name in the menu. This will open the original file.

> How can I edit sub-patches?
>
> If I double click on a sub patch it will open to diplay its  
> contents, but it I ctrl-click on the background it will not go into  
> edit mode.

If you can't edit, it's certainly because it's an abstraction not a  
subpatcher (the abstraction is just an independent file on the hard  
disk). In order to edit the abstraction, you'll have to make an option 
+click on the window title (click on the name) and select the  
abstraction name in the menu. This will open the original file.

You must open the actual patch, what you are doing is

basically opening a window to look at the subpatch. Find

the patch you are trying to open, where ever it is saved,

then try opening it (cntrl + E on apples is the shortcut).

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You must open the actual patch, what you are doing is
basically opening a window to look at the subpatch.   Find
the patch you are trying to open, where ever it is saved,
then try opening it (cntrl + E on apples is the shortcut). 

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I want to set up my patcher so that the subpatchers are all editable (they can be double clicked from the patcher to open them, and then ctrl-clicked to enter edit mode).

I am able to do this if I insert a "patcher" object into my patcher, and then set the contents up. However, I'd like to change the name from "patcher" to something else... but whenever I do this, the contents either disappear or become uneditable, unless I keep the name "patcher" as the first word in the name. Is there any way that I can get rid of the word "patcher" in the name, but keep the contents and the ability to edit the contents?

I am able to do this if I insert a "patcher" object into my patcher, and then set the contents up.  However, I'd like to change the name from "patcher" to something else... but whenever I do this, the contents either disappear or become uneditable, unless I keep the name "patcher" as the first word in the name.  Is there any way that I can get rid of the word "patcher" in the name, but keep the contents and the ability to edit the contents?


On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Max Planck wrote:

> I want to set up my patcher so that the subpatchers are all 

> editable (they can be double clicked from the patcher to open them, 

> and then ctrl-clicked to enter edit mode).

Abstractions and subpatchers are mutually exclusive - they work 

differently, and should be used in different situations.

Subpatchers are ideal when you want to either encapsulate larger 

portions of code into a self-contained unit. The object's name, 

patcher, can be shortened to "p". Thus, [p get_values].

If you want to use this subpatcher again, you can duplicate it 

(command D), and even use the same name. But it then becomes a 

completely separate object - any changes you make in one of the [p 

get_value] subpatchers will NOT be made in any others.

This is where abstractions are useful, particularly if you find you 

want to keep reusing that particular subpatch (either in the current 

patch, or in later patches you might create).

If you save [p get_value] to disk (in your search path), then you can 

enter the name directly, [get_value] in a patch. Each time you do 

this, the same abstraction will be loaded. If you change the original 

(and save it to disk again), all instances of it will change. The 

trade-off is that you can't simply control-click on the patcher.

> I want to set up my patcher so that the subpatchers are all  
> editable (they can be double clicked from the patcher to open them,  
> and then ctrl-clicked to enter edit mode).

Abstractions and subpatchers are mutually exclusive - they work  
differently, and should be used in different situations.

Subpatchers are ideal when you want to either encapsulate larger  
portions of code into a self-contained unit. The object's name,  
patcher, can be shortened to "p". Thus, [p get_values].

If you want to use this subpatcher again, you can duplicate it  
(command D), and even use the same name. But it then becomes a  
completely separate object - any changes you make in one of the [p  
get_value] subpatchers will NOT be made in any others.

This is where abstractions are useful, particularly if you find you  
want to keep reusing that particular subpatch (either in the current  
patch, or in later patches you might create).

If you save [p get_value] to disk (in your search path), then you can  
enter the name directly, [get_value] in a patch. Each time you do  
this, the same abstraction will be loaded. If you change the original  
(and save it to disk again), all instances of it will change. The  
trade-off is that you can't simply control-click on the patcher.


it is _wanted that they cant be edited by default.

but if you want to do it, you can use the contextmenue 

over the abstractions object box ... there is an option 

"open original" which will open it as a seperate patcher

which allows editing. when you save the original, the 

abstraction instace will reload and voila .. almost like 

always make sure you actually want to change the original. :)

but if you want to do it, you can use the contextmenue 
over the abstractions object box ... there is an option 
"open original" which will open it as a seperate patcher
which allows editing. when you save the original, the 
abstraction instace will reload and voila .. almost like 
editing the subpatcher.

always make sure you actually want to change the original. :)


Yeah. it is probably a nooby question but I am having the same problem with the Vsynth package. I would like to edit the patches and the lessons but I can't seemed to be albe to. Plese, any thoughts on this?

How to edit sub-patches?