benniy

i have a (stupid?) question but i can't wrap my mind around it:

for some applications, i see no necessity to define whether a device is a midi- or an audio one (e.g. a device that is used solely for mapping stuff...). is there a way to build a sort of "hybrid" device that works on audio- and miditracks?

hi there.
i have a (stupid?) question but i can't wrap my mind around it:
for some applications, i see no necessity to define whether a device is a midi- or an audio one (e.g. a device that is used solely for mapping stuff...). is there a way to build a sort of "hybrid" device that works on audio- and miditracks?


hybrid-audio-and-midi-in-one-device

Can you elaborate? MIDI is a control protocol that ultimately controls a software plugin or an external synth (although other protocols like OSC might also be used).

So for example, if you want to transpose "something", you might do it by changing the note events being sent to a plugin or external synth or you might do it by directly changing the audio data if you have wave audio or you're implementing the incoming transpose request in the DSP code that implements your plugin, etc.

You might choose to hide the actual way you're doing it from the perspective of the incoming transpose request. For example a DAW can have both MIDI tracks (controlling plugins or external synths) and audio tracks containing raw audio data. You can just tell a track to transpose itself by some amount (and from that perspective you don't care whether it's midi or audio) but under the covers, very different things have to happen depending on the actual track

Can you elaborate? MIDI is a control protocol that ultimately controls a software plugin or an external synth (although other protocols like OSC might also be used).
So for example, if you want to transpose "something", you might do it by changing the note events being sent to a plugin or external synth or you might do it by directly changing the audio data if you have wave audio or you're implementing the incoming transpose request in the DSP code that implements your plugin, etc.

You might choose to hide the actual way you're doing it from the perspective of the incoming transpose request. For example a DAW can have both MIDI tracks (controlling plugins or external synths) and audio tracks containing raw audio data. You can just tell a track to transpose itself by some amount (and from that perspective you don't care whether it's midi or audio) but under the covers, very different things have to happen depending on the actual track


is there a way to build a sort of "hybrid" device that works on audio- and miditracks?

with max4live, yes.... sort of, they are generally audio devices which can also be used on midi tracks, here's an example:

http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/977/nordmann-fdc-generator

is there a way to build a sort of "hybrid" device that works on audio- and miditracks? 

with max4live, yes.... sort of, they are generally audio devices which can also be used on midi tracks, here's an example:
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/977/nordmann-fdc-generator


checked out the nordmann - it's a standard audio-effect/device.

this means if i want to build a hybrid-device it needs to simply be an audio one?

thanks folks.. i get the idea :)
checked out the nordmann - it's a standard audio-effect/device.
this means if i want to build a hybrid-device it needs to simply be an audio one?


hybrid (audio and midi in one) device?