Nov 17, 2006 at 12:47am
are the iCE objects worth the price ?
I was thinking about building my own sequencers (just ordered maxmsp and I’ve read a couple of books on max..) , but then I read an interesting post that got me thinking – why not just use the ones I have (ableton/numerology) and process midi with max?
well, has anyone tried the iCE objects ? are they worth the cost ? will it save me alot of time, or are they especially useful ?
just fishing for opinions,,,
Nov 17, 2006 at 2:14am
From my experiance of trying to sequence in max (i had the bright idea last year and soon hit ‘the wall) its probably a little too much trouble to be worthit.
Also if you have only just ordered max, and have not used it much before, its probably best to get used to the internal objects before spending any money out extra.
My money would be on rewiring or soundflowering to your fav sequencer.
Hope this gives you some food for thought
Nov 17, 2006 at 3:07am
Nov 17, 2006 at 3:10am
Thats pretty much what I’m thinking..if I dont make my own..(rewire/soundflower)
I’m not talking about something full blown like logic tho, say for example a 16 step sequencer…similar to the machinedrum in that you could sequence CC numbers per step, and slide the CC’s from one step to the next…
also probability per step, perhaps even per parameter per step.
and having a step in one pattern launch another, etc…
But all 16/32/64 step style sequencing…
I own an elektron machinedrum & a quasimidi polymorph, and I like old skool 16 step sequencer styles……so I’m looking to create my own bastard child of these lovely interfaces I’m used to.
If it proves to be not worth the effort, I guess I’ll just rely on numerology.
I’d settle for simply pattern creation – I could record the output into ableton live, and take it from there. Or sequence my hardware, and record the audio as well…
what do you think ?
Nov 17, 2006 at 5:17am
On Nov 17, 2006, at 3:10 AM, jellytots wrote:
Sounds wonderful! You can definitely accomplish all this in Max/MSP,
I have a synthetic rhythm manipulation patch I use for both studio
I used to run an earlier, midi-less version by itself, recording each
But be warned: mine evolved rather organically over the course of a
That said… Numerology is *excellent.*
Nov 17, 2006 at 9:46am
The first thing I ever did with Max was to build a 16
Nov 17, 2006 at 3:34pm
On 17-Nov-2006, at 0:47, jellytots wrote:
We think they’re worth the cost and that they will save you lots of
If you haven’t done so already, you might want to take a look at
> just fishing for opinions,,,
Best — Peter
————– http://www.bek.no/~pcastine/Litter/ ————-
Nov 17, 2006 at 5:14pm
I remember downloading some simple sequencers called the quickstart objects. These were simple abstractions of a 16 step sequencer for 127 cc midi values and 5 different drum style bang sequence matrix. They were really helpful and all you have to do is load them as batcher windows and hook in a metro. then you can just hook those out into a ctlout with whatever midi channel and cc value you want. Ill try and upload my patch that does this later and it may work for you. I even added a little feature that allows you to hook your midi ins and outs in a circle to the computer and when you click a bang button on max and then tweak a knob it auto-latches that knob to the 16 step. You can get some really cool future-acid lines like that.
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