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In search for synthesis models.


nit
November 15, 2009 | 12:31 pm

I’m looking for some basic (physical) synthesis models.
For instance I’d like to know how you could simulate a hit on wood or on metal. Or to synthesise something like grating on a rusty plate.

I’m not in search for very detailed physical models but just some basic hints.


November 16, 2009 | 5:53 am

these things (your examples) _are already very complicated models.

but let me try to give 2 examples of basic structures.

one thing often involved is a feedback loop similar to the
one you are doing with tapin/tapout when making an echo effect,
the other idea would be the excitation of resonance models,
such as sending a noiseburst or a click into [resonators~] or
[comb~]s.

many things for complex models are probably easier to program
on a lower level than max (for multirate abilities for example)
but that doesnt mean it wont be fun to try something.

-110

p.s.: oh and not to forget: AM and FM!


November 16, 2009 | 6:21 am

hello,
i don’t know much about it, but julius o smith has a page:
https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/wg.html
and
http://www.dsprelated.com/dspbooks/pasp/
and perry cook of stk fame has some references, but i can’t find them..
also dan stowell has this (specifically for supercollider) cymbal synthesis tutorial, you could apply the same principles to your work in max:
http://www.mcld.co.uk/cymbalsynthesis/

but don’t ask me cos i’m a complete newb to max..
cheers,,


November 16, 2009 | 4:34 pm

For Perry Cook’s stuff, get his book:

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~prc/AKPetersBook.htm

brad
http://music.columbia.edu/~brad



Ch
November 16, 2009 | 11:28 pm
nit wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 05:31
For instance I’d like to know how you could simulate a hit on wood or on metal. Or to synthesise something like grating on a rusty plate.

Just some links about impact sounds synthesis :

http://people.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/publications/sound-shapes.pdf
http://www.icad.org/Proceedings/2009/AramakiGondre2009.pdf
http://people.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/app6JavaSound/demo.html


November 16, 2009 | 11:36 pm

If you search "karplus strong" in the forum you’ll find a few good examples of plucked string physical modelling synthesis. Kapling is a good example.

lh



Ch
November 18, 2009 | 8:53 am

An other book, by Stephan Bilbao. There’s some free samples and sound examples here :

http://www2.ph.ed.ac.uk/~sbilbao/nsstop.html


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