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					<title><![CDATA[Infrared position sensors?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Bruno Zamborlin</dc:creator>

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						<p>Dear all,<br />
I&#8217;m working for an installation and I would need some sensors, but I&#8217;m not really informed about them.</p>
<p>What I would like to obtain is the position (X, Y and maybe Z, if it&#8217;s possible) of three little objects in a small room (I&#8217;m thinking about three spheres with a diameter of 10-20 cm).</p>
<p>But I would like that there will not be any cable between these objects and my laptop, so I was thinking about some infrared sensor.</p>
<p>I already own an Eroktronix Miditron, that maybe could be useful.</p>
<p>Can somebody give me some tips please?</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Infrared position sensors?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Berend</dc:creator>

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						<p>You could use semi-transparent spheres with a bunch of IR leds inside. Depends on the use of the objects. With some hacking you can make your own IR cam.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Infrared position sensors?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>mzed</dc:creator>

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> What I would like to obtain is the position (X, Y and maybe Z, if it&#8217;s possible) of three little objects in a small room (I&#8217;m thinking about three spheres with a diameter of 10-20 cm).<br />
> <br />
> But I would like that there will not be any cable between these objects and my laptop, so I was thinking about some infrared sensor.<br />
> <br />
> I already own an Eroktronix Miditron, that maybe could be useful.<br />
> <br />
> Can somebody give me some tips please?<br />
> </p>
<p>I agree with the IR cam idea, unless you need positions more often than 5 times a second.  Also, you would need multiple cameras to get 3D</p>
<p>Unibrain makes a Fire-i camera that doesn&#8217;t have an IR filter:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htm</a></p>
<p>You can make a visible light filter with exposed color film. (Lots of info on google)</p>
<p>cv.jit is handy for tracking:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~jovan02/cv/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~jovan02/cv/</a></p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t want IR LED&#8217;s on the objects you are tracking, you can put some reflective material on them, and bathe the whole scene in IR.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t used it, but this system looks interesting:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.naturalpoint.com/optitrack/" rel="nofollow">http://www.naturalpoint.com/optitrack/</a></p>
<p>mz</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Infrared position sensors?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Bruno Zamborlin</dc:creator>

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						<p>Thank you both for attention.</p>
<p>Michael thanks for your links, however IR cam seems to be an expensive and complex solution (349$ for Optitrack with only one camera, without 3D).</p>
<p>Or something like Makethings Infrared Distance Measuring Sensor ( <a href="http://www.makingthings.com/products/ACC-IR-DIST-001" rel="nofollow">http://www.makingthings.com/products/ACC-IR-DIST-001</a> ) works only up to 150 cm.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking I could use some videotracking system (jit.findbounds or cv.jit.blobs.centroids or something else).<br />
So, I would use a firewire camera in order to track any stained and shining object inside the dark room.</p>
<p>Maybe I would put an electric torch inside a semitrasparent stained objects (a green, a red and a blue one). I could paint three plexiglass spheres, if it will be possible to re-open them in order to change batteries of torches.</p>
<p>So I would haven&#8217;t galling cables inside the room. But as compensation I would have to change batteries every two hours.</p>
<p>Any further suggestions will be appreciated.</p>
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Quote: mzed wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 19:45<br />
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> I agree with the IR cam idea, unless you need positions more often than 5 times a second.  Also, you would need multiple cameras to get 3D<br />
> <br />
> Unibrain makes a Fire-i camera that doesn&#8217;t have an IR filter:<br />
> <a href="http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htm</a><br />
> <br />
> You can make a visible light filter with exposed color film. (Lots of info on google)<br />
> <br />
> cv.jit is handy for tracking:<br />
> <a href="http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~jovan02/cv/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~jovan02/cv/</a><br />
> <br />
> If you don&#8217;t want IR LED&#8217;s on the objects you are tracking, you can put some reflective material on them, and bathe the whole scene in IR.<br />
> <br />
> I haven&#8217;t used it, but this system looks interesting:<br />
> <br />
> <a href="http://www.naturalpoint.com/optitrack/" rel="nofollow">http://www.naturalpoint.com/optitrack/</a><br />
> <br />
> mz<br />
> <br />
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Infrared position sensors?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Trum</dc:creator>

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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Infrared position sensors?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>dlurk</dc:creator>

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						<p>
> So I would haven&#8217;t galling cables inside the room. But as compensation I would have to change batteries every two hours.</p>
<p>You should use LED&#8217;s and change the batteries daily instead.</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Bruno Zamborlin</dc:creator>

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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Infrared position sensors?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Bruno Zamborlin</dc:creator>

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						<p>Quote: dlurk wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 22:48<br />
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> You should use LED&#8217;s and change the batteries daily instead.<br />
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<p>Thank you&#8230; so do you think that a 40-50 lm led would last one day long?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Infrared position sensors?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Bruno Zamborlin</dc:creator>

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						<p>I&#8217;m thinking also about a solution like:<br />
InfusionSystems Advance-645:</p>
<p><a href="http://infusionsystems.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/24/products_id/159?osCsid=106fb31342173843921c8c24f4d72863" rel="nofollow">http://infusionsystems.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/24/products_id/159?osCsid=106fb31342173843921c8c24f4d72863</a></p>
<p>or InfusionSystems MoveOn:</p>
<p><a href="http://infusionsystems.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/24/products_id/38?osCsid=106fb31342173843921c8c24f4d72863" rel="nofollow">http://infusionsystems.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/24/products_id/38?osCsid=106fb31342173843921c8c24f4d72863</a></p>
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The problem with IR sensors, I guess, will be that if a person stays between the IR-cam and the reflective sphere, the IR-cam will be not able to recognize it. Isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Does anybody try Infusion System sensors and can give me some tip?</p>
<p>Thank you again</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Infrared position sensors?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>geraldg@gmx.de</dc:creator>

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						<p>What do you think about hypersonic or radar instead? Is the room empty, or will the audience walk around inside?</p>
<p>Gerald</p>
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