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in pd i found the "init" option for sliders and number boxes extremely useful - the majority of the time when i load a patch, i want everything to be in the state that i saved it rather than everything initialized to 0. is there an easy way in max to do this? or does it need to be done manually with tons of loadbangs?

similarly, can the contents of a buffer~ be saved as part of the patch? table seems to have an option for this in get info, but i'm not sure about buffer.

initializing-slidersbuffers

Take a look at the 'preset' object, it should help you out.

Regarding loadbang, I usually just use one at the top of my patch, and use it to initialize everything by way of send/recieve objects.

As for saving buffer contents, it could be done by writing the file to disk, and then using a loadbang to get it to read that file on launch. There may be a more elegant way to do this, not sure.

Take a look at the 'preset' object, it should help you out. 

As for saving buffer contents, it could be done by writing the file to disk, and then using a loadbang to get it to read that file on launch. There may be a more elegant way to do this, not sure.  

On Mar 10, 2008, at 10:20 AM, pete wrote:

> in pd i found the "init" option for sliders and number boxes 

> extremely useful - the majority of the time when i load a patch, i 

> want everything to be in the state that i saved it rather than 

> everything initialized to 0. is there an easy way in max to do this? 

> or does it need to be done manually with tons of loadbangs?

It could be done with loadbangs & messages, or better still, the pattr 

system. I recommend learning how to use auttopattr and pattrstorage, 

as it will come in handy for all your presetting needs.

> similarly, can the contents of a buffer~ be saved as part of the 

> patch? table seems to have an option for this in get info, but i'm 

I think you'll have to deal with reloading the buffer~ somehow.

>
> in pd i found the "init" option for sliders and number boxes  
> extremely useful - the majority of the time when i load a patch, i  
> want everything to be in the state that i saved it rather than  
> everything initialized to 0. is there an easy way in max to do this?  
> or does it need to be done manually with tons of loadbangs?

It could be done with loadbangs & messages, or better still, the pattr  
system. I recommend learning how to use auttopattr and pattrstorage,  
as it will come in handy for all your presetting needs.

> similarly, can the contents of a buffer~ be saved as part of the  
> patch? table seems to have an option for this in get info, but i'm  
> not sure about buffer.

the problem i'm having now is that with both autopattr and preset, the values are not stored if they are in a bpatcher (most of the controls are in bpatchers for a modular kind of organisation). even with "embed in parent patcher" ticked. any ideas?

> the problem i'm having now is that with both autopattr and preset, 

> the values are not stored if they are in a bpatcher (most of the 

> controls are in bpatchers for a modular kind of organisation). even 

> with "embed in parent patcher" ticked. any ideas?

If you attach a name to the bpatcher, then any pattr-aware components 

in it will become visible to the top-level pattr machinery - you'll 

see them in the client and storage windows.

(Sorry if that sounds a big vague - my head is in Pluggoland at the 

moment so I've not done pattrs for a while.)

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> the problem i'm having now is that with both autopattr and preset,  
> the values are not stored if they are in a bpatcher (most of the  
> controls are in bpatchers for a modular kind of organisation). even  
> with "embed in parent patcher" ticked. any ideas?

If you attach a name to the bpatcher, then any pattr-aware components  
in it will become visible to the top-level pattr machinery - you'll  
see them in the client and storage windows.

(Sorry if that sounds a big vague - my head is in Pluggoland at the  
moment so I've not done pattrs for a while.)

Nick Rothwell - nick@cassiel.com - www.cassiel.com
--- open-source goodies for MaxMSP: Python, Groovy, Nixie Tubes,
--- rotatable text bricks, databases: all at www.loadbang.net


ah, thats clever. but autopattr should automatically assign everything i thought (with the @autosomething whatever it is)

> but autopattr should automatically assign everything i thought

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initializing sliders/buffer~s