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is it just me…?

June 1, 2006 | 10:36 am

or is this patch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Autechremax.jpg quite obviously a pisstake? seeing it on wikipedia was the final straw for me. has nobody got the joke?!


June 1, 2006 | 11:59 am

Here’s the original Sound on Sound article, if that helps you decide:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/articles/autechre.htm

Dan


Dan Nigrin
Defective Records
202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X
http://www.defectiverecords.com

http://www.jackosx.com


June 1, 2006 | 12:09 pm

Not in my dictionary, translation?

> pisstake


June 1, 2006 | 1:31 pm

hrmmmmmmmmmm, whats the joke?.. I give up. =(


June 1, 2006 | 2:25 pm


June 1, 2006 | 2:43 pm

Well, they obviously don’t believe in the comment object in either
case…


June 1, 2006 | 3:00 pm

they’re making fun of the whole ‘whoa….autechre use a crazy program called max/msp that’s too complicated for me’ thing, that non max users always spout. either that or they have ridiculously good memories. i just refuse to believe that musicians as notoriously withdrawn and private as autechre would be able to resist an opprtunity to make a joke like that. its exactly what i do when people wanted to see performance patches i’ve made

but anyway, i read an interview with sean booth, and he was bemoaning the fact that theyve ben labelled a ‘max band’ when he hadrly uses it anyway. apparently they only used max, not msp, mainly around the confield era.

oops, i hope this post doesn’t turn into one of those ‘commercial bands who use maxmsp’ things.

pisstaking – taking the piss – making fun of :)


June 1, 2006 | 4:07 pm

I don’t think you need to have a very good memory to be able to handle a big amount of UI elements, if that’s what you mean.. The key is of course creating a logical structure that makes it unnecessary to link every separate element to a specific function. Eg. a 32-steps step sequencer doesn’t force me to remember 32 separate functions. The same holds for 128 or 2048 steps.


June 1, 2006 | 4:44 pm

well yeah, i suppose. what i meant was more in line with peter’s post. personally, i find that unless i comment number boxes, dials etc, i forget what the hell they do pretty quickly. but thats beside the point. you reckon the patch is real?


June 1, 2006 | 6:44 pm

is it real?
it’s being talked about.
and that, maybe, is the point…


June 1, 2006 | 8:37 pm

well it certainly looks like it could be a functional max patch ;) A bit on the avant garde side though, doubtful thats its the CORE on Confield, but I would imagine that, if it were maybe just a midi controller for some synths routed through a sequencer or something.. I don’t know. It does look overly "pseudo max" if you ask me. I see what you’re saying now.

I used to listen to autechre a few years back quite a lot, had like everything up until drane and listened to them all quite extensively. drane (i think thats its name) could be a "max album", same with confield…. I don’t think it was the core of their setup, though.


June 2, 2006 | 8:54 am

I attended a performance they did here in amsterdam. It was a minimalistic set and it totally rocked. Of course we tried to figure out what they were doing (my friends are geeks too ;). One of them was clearly programming beat patterns and the other tweaking knobs, fx etc. Couldn’t see who was who because during their performance all the lights were out, leaving only the sound and an occasional camera flash (so cool!)).

Anyway, this max patch looks very much suited for this type of performance. Of course it would have to be controlled by midicontrollers.

Another point: have you guys ever tried the Native Instruments ‘Electronic Instruments’ package for reaktor? That is far worse than this patch, but people use it!

http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=electronicins 2_us&ftu=49354b5fdb&flash=8

Tip: zoom in on the ‘Krypt’ machine and try to figure out how it works. ;)

Mattijs


June 2, 2006 | 5:23 pm

To me this looks like two things:
1) A "money shot", like the ones you always see in press releases – everything loaded up and brought to the front, displaying as much information as possible. Thing is, some people really dig that in a system, myself included – no mousing or window switching, if possible. This conversation would also make some sort of sense: "Could we show your max patch?" "Uhm, we have quite a few, buddy!" "Well… how’s about bunching them together in one big patch?" – which leads to pt. 2:

2) It looks like it’s too much work, too high in detail etc. to be a hoax – and if you look at the different sections they really do seem somewhat isolated: The bottom part (left+middle) is simple step sequencers, the upper middle part looks like some sort of synth (Additive/FM, with the tables displaying partials?) etc…

Oh heck, there I go, blabbing on about that patch.. haha, I’ve looked at that picture a gazillion times!

Andreas


June 2, 2006 | 6:54 pm

does it really matter whether it’s bogus or not?
It doesn’t make their music any better either way…

HM


June 2, 2006 | 7:25 pm

oooooh flamey!

to be honest, i have no idea. i started the thread because i was bored and lonely, and it worked. it voicd some interesting opinions, as always on this list

i forgot sean booth isnt liked on here too much. haha :)

i happen to love confield – it does things to my head


June 2, 2006 | 10:04 pm

the comment object does not exist, everyone knows
that it is a hoax.

but why would anyone create a fake picture of
a realistic looking max patch and put it in a
wikipedia article? to fool professor osborne?


June 2, 2006 | 11:21 pm

well you’ve completely missed the point of what i was saying, cheers for that useful reply

nothing fools professor osborne


June 3, 2006 | 12:49 am

you missed the point that max _is a weird app which
is used only by some crazy underground artists and
which _is too complicated for most people.

did you just call ae a "comercial band" ? :)

serious now, it is more useful for the max religion
if we show people what we _actually do with it, and
not make it look simple.

otoh, everyone is free to post silly jokes to wikipedia,
has advantages and disadvantages …

-110


June 3, 2006 | 4:27 am

well in regards to the lack of comment objects…., the obvious comes to mind… ever heard of the hint object ;P?


June 3, 2006 | 4:59 am

Exactly! Besides, if you have the screen-space for comments then your patch isn’t complex enough! hehe.


June 4, 2006 | 12:49 am

why make any buttons and sliders when you can
as well have a cool performance patch consisting
only of comments and hints?

max v2;
#N vpatcher 26 104 1010 778;
#P comment 847 392 54 196626 help;
#P comment 847 365 54 196626 help;
#P comment 789 394 54 196626 help;
#P comment 789 367 54 196626 help;
#P comment 731 395 54 196626 help;
#P comment 731 368 54 196626 help;
#P comment 846 335 54 196626 help;
#P comment 846 308 54 196626 help;
#P comment 788 337 54 196626 help;
#P comment 788 310 54 196626 help;
#P comment 740 280 142 196626 help section;
#P comment 730 338 54 196626 help;
#P comment 730 311 54 196626 help;
#P user hint 132 558 295 592 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 132 520 295 554 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 133 480 296 514 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 133 441 296 475 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 22 557 185 591 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 22 519 185 553 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 23 479 186 513 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 23 440 186 474 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 742 571 905 605 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 742 533 905 567 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 743 493 906 527 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 743 454 906 488 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 642 571 805 605 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 642 533 805 567 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 643 493 806 527 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 643 454 806 488 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 725 223 888 257 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 725 185 888 219 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 726 145 889 179 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 726 106 889 140 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 527 385 690 419 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 359 385 522 419 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 188 385 351 419 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 18 385 181 419 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 526 344 689 378 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 358 344 521 378 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 187 344 350 378 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 17 344 180 378 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 527 303 690 337 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 359 303 522 337 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 188 303 351 337 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 18 303 181 337 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 528 263 691 297 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 360 263 523 297 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 189 263 352 297 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 19 263 182 297 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 527 224 690 258 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 359 224 522 258 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 188 224 351 258 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 18 224 181 258 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 527 186 690 220 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 359 186 522 220 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 188 186 351 220 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 18 186 181 220 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 528 146 691 180 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 360 146 523 180 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 189 146 352 180 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 19 146 182 180 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 528 107 691 141 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 360 107 523 141 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 189 107 352 141 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 19 107 182 141 ‘for more info visit wikipedia.org’ 200 50 0 27648 64768 15872 9 3 0 1 0 0 0;
#P comment 726 109 223 196626 sample sectopn;
#P comment 725 217 93 196626 sound 4;
#P comment 724 190 93 196626 sound 3;
#P comment 724 162 93 196626 sound 2;
#P comment 724 135 93 196626 sound 1;
#P comment 609 323 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 610 250 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 609 178 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 609 106 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 524 323 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 525 250 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 524 178 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 524 106 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 602 393 101 196626 comment;
#P comment 524 393 89 196626 label->;
#P comment 440 325 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 441 252 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 440 180 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 440 108 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 355 325 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 356 252 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 355 180 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 355 108 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 433 395 101 196626 comment;
#P comment 355 395 89 196626 label->;
#P comment 271 327 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 272 254 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 271 182 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 271 110 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 186 327 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 187 254 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 186 182 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 186 110 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 264 397 101 196626 comment;
#P comment 186 397 89 196626 label->;
#P comment 92 586 187 196617 //* insert extra info here *//;
#P comment 656 460 142 196626 sequencing;
#P comment 809 569 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 808 542 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 808 514 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 808 487 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 757 568 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 756 541 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 756 513 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 756 486 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 706 570 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 705 543 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 705 515 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 705 488 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 655 568 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 654 541 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 654 513 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 654 486 54 196626 bang;
#P comment 139 568 128 196617 (main mixer comment);
#P comment 132 541 142 196626 main mixer;
#P comment 133 513 142 196626 main mixer;
#P comment 35 566 128 196617 (main mixer comment);
#P comment 28 539 142 196626 main mixer;
#P comment 29 511 142 196626 main mixer;
#P comment 139 495 128 196617 (main mixer comment);
#P comment 132 468 142 196626 main mixer;
#P comment 133 440 142 196626 main mixer;
#P comment 35 493 128 196617 (main mixer comment);
#P comment 28 466 142 196626 main mixer;
#P comment 29 438 142 196626 main mixer;
#P comment 102 329 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 103 256 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 102 184 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 102 112 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 17 329 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 18 256 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 17 184 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 17 112 79 196626 channel strip stuff;
#P comment 95 399 101 196626 comment;
#P comment 40 580 53 196617 label comment >;
#P comment 33 27 760 196644 Professor Osborne DJ Software;
#P comment 17 399 89 196626 label->;
#P comment 371 588 220 196617 free space for your personal comments;
#P pop;


June 4, 2006 | 9:19 am

well i get it, but when did i ever mention anything about comment boxes?

it would have been funnier if you’d have wasted even more time making a hugely intricate impressive looking max patch that sparked a debate as to it’s authenticity. then i could have shown all my friends and said it was mine


June 4, 2006 | 2:42 pm

I believe you are right.

#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P comment 46 45 43 9109513 Show UI;
#P hidden newex 141 28 61 9109513 loadmess 50;
#P number 9 28 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#N thispatcher;
#Q end;
#P hidden newobj 62 62 54 9109513 thispatcher;
#P button 9 45 15 0;
#N vpatcher 260 417 652 655;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#N vpatcher 25 70 409 285;
#N comlet to thispatcher;
#P outlet 50 158 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 190 97 27 9109513 + 10;
#P newex 190 75 52 9109513 random 40;
#P newex 120 75 57 9109513 random 600;
#P newex 50 50 53 9109513 t b b b b;
#P newex 50 75 57 9109513 random 800;
#P inlet 50 30 15 0;
#P window linecount 2;
#P newex 50 123 280 9109513 sprintf script new var user dial %i %i %i %i 128 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0;
#P connect 1 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 2 0 0 0;
#P connect 0 0 7 0;
#P connect 3 1 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 0 1;
#P connect 3 2 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 0 2;
#P connect 6 0 0 3;
#P pop;
#P newobj 293 148 35 9109513 p dials;
#B color 5;
#N vpatcher 25 70 696 403;
#N comlet to thispatcher;
#P outlet 50 151 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 190 97 27 9109513 + 10;
#P newex 190 75 52 9109513 random 40;
#P newex 120 75 57 9109513 random 600;
#P newex 50 50 53 9109513 t b b b b;
#P newex 50 75 57 9109513 random 800;
#P inlet 50 30 15 0;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 50 123 225 9109513 sprintf script new var user gswitch2 %i %i %i %i 0 0;
#P connect 1 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 2 0 0 0;
#P connect 0 0 7 0;
#P connect 3 1 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 0 1;
#P connect 3 2 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 0 2;
#P connect 6 0 0 3;
#P pop;
#P newobj 229 148 57 9109513 p switches2;
#B color 5;
#N vpatcher 25 70 696 403;
#N comlet to thispatcher;
#P outlet 50 151 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 190 97 27 9109513 + 10;
#P newex 190 75 52 9109513 random 40;
#P newex 120 75 57 9109513 random 600;
#P newex 50 50 53 9109513 t b b b b;
#P newex 50 75 57 9109513 random 800;
#P inlet 50 30 15 0;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 50 123 220 9109513 sprintf script new var user gswitch %i %i %i %i 0 0;
#P connect 1 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 2 0 0 0;
#P connect 0 0 7 0;
#P connect 3 1 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 0 1;
#P connect 3 2 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 0 2;
#P connect 6 0 0 3;
#P pop;
#P newobj 173 148 52 9109513 p switches;
#B color 5;
#N vpatcher 25 70 518 311;
#N comlet to thispatcher;
#P outlet 50 159 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 260 97 27 9109513 + 20;
#P newex 190 97 31 9109513 + 100;
#P newex 260 75 52 9109513 random 50;
#P newex 190 75 57 9109513 random 300;
#P newex 120 75 57 9109513 random 600;
#P newex 50 50 53 9109513 t b b b b;
#P newex 50 123 239 9109513 sprintf script new var user kslider %i %i %i %i 36 48 31 12 0 128 128 128 128 128 128 255 255 255 0 0 0 0 0 0;
#P newex 50 75 57 9109513 random 800;
#P inlet 50 30 15 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 1 0;
#P connect 1 0 2 0;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 3 1 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 2 1;
#P connect 3 2 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 7 0;
#P connect 7 0 2 2;
#P connect 3 3 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 2 3;
#P pop;
#P newobj 111 148 55 9109513 p pianorolls;
#B color 5;
#N comlet (int) amount;
#P inlet 114 28 15 0;
#N comlet to thispatcher;
#P outlet 45 173 15 0;
#P newex 45 45 19 9109513 t 1;
#P newex 96 111 19 9109513 t 0;
#N counter 0 0 100;
#X flags 0 0;
#P newobj 54 89 73 9109513 counter 0 0 100;
#P newex 45 67 45 9109513 metro 40;
#N comlet (bang) generate;
#P inlet 45 28 15 0;
#N vpatcher 25 70 352 278;
#N comlet to thispatcher;
#P outlet 50 145 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 260 97 27 9109513 + 9;
#P newex 190 97 27 9109513 + 35;
#P newex 260 75 52 9109513 random 40;
#P newex 190 75 52 9109513 random 60;
#P newex 120 75 57 9109513 random 600;
#P newex 50 50 53 9109513 t b b b b;
#P newex 50 123 215 9109513 sprintf script new var number %i %i %i %i 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 50 75 57 9109513 random 800;
#P inlet 50 30 15 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 1 0;
#P connect 1 0 2 0;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 4 0 2 1;
#P connect 3 1 4 0;
#P connect 7 0 2 2;
#P connect 3 2 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 7 0;
#P connect 8 0 2 3;
#P connect 3 3 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 8 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 45 148 59 9109513 p numboxes;
#B color 5;
#P connect 1 0 5 0;
#P connect 4 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 2 0;
#P connect 2 0 0 0;
#P connect 0 0 6 0;
#P connect 8 0 6 0;
#P connect 9 0 6 0;
#P connect 10 0 6 0;
#P connect 11 0 6 0;
#P connect 2 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 2 4 0;
#P connect 2 0 8 0;
#P connect 7 0 3 4;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 2 0 10 0;
#P connect 2 0 11 0;
#P pop;
#P hidden newobj 9 62 52 9109513 p generate;
#P comment 46 28 93 9109513 Number of elements;
#P hidden connect 5 0 4 0;
#P hidden connect 2 0 1 0;
#P hidden connect 4 0 1 1;
#P hidden connect 1 0 3 0;
#P window clipboard copycount 7;


June 4, 2006 | 3:02 pm

i have not yet found a way how to control what impresses
people, mainly because i did no research in that field yet.

people usually adore my crap work and make fun of my masterpieces.

if i wouldnt waste so much time in forums maybe i would
find the time to use MAX again and finish my current app
GUI, which is lcd-only.

which brings us to the question how "authec…" pardon: "authentic" a MAX patch screenshot would be where you can
see 100% quickdraw commands or 100% 242.ekran playing mpegs
from disk.


June 4, 2006 | 4:58 pm

hahahaha

*high five*

As they say on the internets : pwned @!$

v a d e //

http://www.vade.info
abstrakt.vade.info


June 4, 2006 | 5:02 pm

is this patch authentic ? This is what ive been working on for some
time…

http://abstrakt.vade.info/wp-content/blogimages/ap001.png

v a d e //

http://www.vade.info
abstrakt.vade.info


June 4, 2006 | 5:55 pm

totally f**’n fake


June 4, 2006 | 6:09 pm

definately fake


June 4, 2006 | 6:23 pm

fuck you all :D

v a d e //

http://www.vade.info
abstrakt.vade.info


June 4, 2006 | 6:42 pm

I think it’s authentic. The font selection makes the text illegible,
which I’ve always found to be a good indicator of full-on Max
patchcraft.

– N.

nick rothwell — composition, systems, performance — http://
http://www.cassiel.com


June 4, 2006 | 11:50 pm

I’m convinced by the tone of the comments. Very familiar.


June 5, 2006 | 3:37 am

there are no comments in MAX.


March 16, 2009 | 5:00 am

that patch definitely isn’t a joke, since it’s not funny. jokes are supposed to be funny. that just looks really interesting. in the sound on sound article that picture comes from, Ae says they started using Max in 1997 and instantly found all kinds of great uses for it. They must also use MSP, since there are filtergraphs on that patch.The sound on sound article also has another picture of a jitter patch of Ae’s. cool stuff, those guys are brilliant.


March 16, 2009 | 10:16 am

what’s even more interesting for me , is the fact of just having a glimpse of Autechre programming wizardry (real or not) becomes a subject by it’s self


March 16, 2009 | 4:14 pm

hmmmm looking at the patches again I start to believe that:
1. It is fake in the sense that it have nothing to do with there music making at least not in a direct way.
2. that it contains hidden messages for us to find, that will reveal the true nature of the patches. and possible a deeper understanding of their music making.
for instance two of the matrixctrl objects spells out ae in both upper and lower case….
and look at the applications that are running Max and Messenger….. coincidence I think not……

does anybody have a high rez version of the picture for further analysis


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