It seems to me that I should get the same exponetially scaled output in the four mapped ranges in the patch below but I don’t. If I remove the exponential base value, all four behave identically. Any thoughts on what I’m missing here? I’m still using 4.5.7….does 4.6 act differently?

Thanks,

Lewis

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(The idea came from someone on the forum)

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I gave up on the fifth argument a long time ago. Its not really
documented what it does and is, as you show just buggy.
I would even recommend to eliminate the documentation about the 5th
argument, or maybe just mention, that it exists only for backwards
compatibility, but should not be considered usefull. Any other method
for tweaking and curving is better.
I love to use either atodb/dbto or mtof/ftom. For musical purposes it
has the advantage that it also documents what you want to do by naming it…

And last not least, Litter from Peter does contain correctly working
scale objects. He will chime in and tell you if its available with the
free starter pack or if you need pro…
(I have to leave you some space Peter, I know you can’t resist, love
it… ;-)

Stefan

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Do you think that I should submit this as a bug report then? Or is this old news? I searched for evidence of previous reports to the list but came up empty. Perhaps this is common knowledge to Cycling folks and not worth bugging them about again? Ouch, sorry.

> And last not least, Litter from Peter does contain correctly working
> scale objects. He will chime in and tell you if its available with the
> free starter pack or if you need pro…
> (I have to leave you some space Peter, I know you can’t resist, love
> it… ;-)

Why have I been so blind! Of course I have the starter pack but downloaded it when I was a wee starter myself and didn’t know what to do with any of it. I really should go through all of the externals’ help files from stuff I downloaded a couple of years ago and see how many things I’ve been doing the hard way! Thanks for the advice.

Lewis

That’s beautiful, thanks for that!

Its old news and its difficult to fix at the same time. Whenever there
is a weak design, and its been around for a long time, you just can’t
change the design. In the end, the buggy part, that, which definitely
doesn’t work as advertised, isn’t too much worth to bother. Better get
your patch work the way you think, and that would require to ignore that
5th parameter anyway…
Personaly I don’t care at all if this will be fixed or not…

> Why have I been so blind! Of course I have the starter pack but
> downloaded it when I was a wee starter myself and didn’t know what to
> do with any of it. I really should go through all of the externals’
> help files from stuff I downloaded a couple of years ago and see how
> many things I’ve been doing the hard way! Thanks for the advice.

Ah, and to get you into specific, 3rd parties, I’ll do it like Peter,
you should have a look at my collection (at c74/share), its all
abstractions which you could analyse and hopefully get some inspiration
from… (and its free as in speaking about beer… ;-)

Stefan

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I use the patch below. Everything is fine, consistent, and has more
options than scale anyway.

Arvid’s patch is nice, but it’s not an exponential mapping. The
following also demonstrates the (subtle) differences between
exponential and power mappings.

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Stefan, I’ve already got it. In fact I recommended St.PresetAid to someone on the list just the other day! :) Thanks for sharing your hard work.

Lewis

Ah yes, thanks for pointing that out.

> #P comment 275 234 184 196617 why are all four outputs the same?;

LOL! Because you programmed it to work as advertised. :) Thank you too for making the starter pack freely available and for the help.

Lewis

Actually he didn’t, and the question should be “why are all four outputs
not always the same? (try to give it 2.04) The answer would be the int
numberboxes…

Stefan

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> (try to give it 2.04)

Nice find.

2.04 gets screwed by the [* 100.]. Replace that with a [lp.scampi 100
round] and everything’s hunky dory again.

Wow, we just had that in the other thread. Synchronicity, man. Heavy.
I think I hear ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ playing in the next room.

Wow.

This is almost as psychedelic as double-clicking on lp.hyppie.

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