<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
	<rss version="2.0"
		xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
		xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
		xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
		xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"

			>

	<channel>
		<title>Cycling 74  &#187;  Topic: Is there any way to have the preset object control subpathers?</title>
		<atom:link href="http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/is-there-any-way-to-have-the-preset-object-control-subpathers/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
		<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/is-there-any-way-to-have-the-preset-object-control-subpathers/feed</link>
		<description></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<generator>http://bbpress.org/?v=2.2.4</generator>
		<language></language>

		
														
					
				<item>
					<guid>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/is-there-any-way-to-have-the-preset-object-control-subpathers/#post-46487</guid>
					<title><![CDATA[Is there any way to have the preset object control subpathers?]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/is-there-any-way-to-have-the-preset-object-control-subpathers/#post-46487</link>
					<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>benj3737</dc:creator>

					<description>
						<![CDATA[
						<p>Is there a way for the preset object to control objects in a subpatcher?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example</p>
<div><span id="toggle46487-0" class="patchtoggle" onmousedown="toggleMaxPatch('post46487-0', 'er46487-0');">&#8211; Pasted Max <span id="maxversion46487-0"></span> Patch, click to <span id="er46487-0">expand</span>. &#8211;</span> <object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000"  width="110" height="14" class="clippy" ><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="quality" value="high" /><param name="scale" value="noscale" /><param NAME="FlashVars" value="copied=copied!&#038;copyto=copy to clipboard"/><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"/><param name="wmode" value="opaque"/><embed src="/wp-content/plugins/bbpress-copy-compressed/clippy.swf"  width="110" height="14"   name="clippy"  quality="high"  allowScriptAccess="always"  type="application/x-shockwave-flash"  pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"  FlashVars="text=----------begin_max5_patcher----------%0A894.3ocyWEraaCCC8ryWglwN1UXK6LmrKC63.J11gBrCcEAx1JIZyVxvVIsa%0AE8eexRx1RMJooYIc4hEBEEC4iTOQ9vHO%2BT183FevG.2.77dXjmmTTq.O8u87%0AKQ2mUfZjp4mwJKwTt%2BEp83364R4WuDCppwMXNfk9SbFG78Oe0UfLFkWyJ.7k%0AjF.gxwKv0er6vEDJNishJs.TKjjKsmvHuKLtSS5pRBs.yk9PnV3bgsonRrT%2B%0AOUSPEFpyVw6zOvP%2BFxej5O8xNoUHd1RBcwrZgSqPBHbrXaP3j.4RPR6BT7Eb%0Aa6Ydbzn1OWrmHlBU7cDdvcFd1AQrVpRD%2B2UXku1adfOgJWrE.t8Yiyo5vTtD%0AGzFlcmQZpY4HNpqFoOHUdXJt1vmExFzc7EpvLp0Uzp16kIPEV1AjtMK7ewrG%0ATxpD2zfVf2n7tgypwf2F5JMF5LMBegUogaKAOjB2%2BB3PYt78pLZjL8N9.Ke2%0AFh.c.ESNpHgr5ixQbBiZDbQIxpVXKB.Bze5wniA7o%2BGhjFOBd43S.74pRZ5q%0AB7oBqSI7oAtSI74p5K476d3j%2BOERiO%2BPh3iWMQGo%2BFgczQocA31Ba86qoH5h%0ACAAFqZpHRtLV8l6g1SAEemHf2nVnBvpvoxlsb8PkS3I3T2MklNHDJWznPhYW%0AFsmQ8fuQe.9yIE3035FA8kYKF9CVNIHr0XSjTYvvIRKOMZvzBXbQAK6W3bCO%0AWzLAd9KxHBPkNbf.ShSK1SklDpIy6S%2BiQqJ3ybhc1aOGkg25Yclm77WTSxYz%0AVev5jsh692tQdsq6xmkFTTkiCyYrhTT8ZRCIs.akHDknHJoDwwbhxefA8miT%0AVUSTc12KCSQBarrISLQPgkoT6r1wN430jL7cjb9RosFPKqQWLafz7xik7cNJ%0Ayliy7M6wY95W9g%2B0NGn4MllvZnlXiMLtIFad.WjU69F41uUt8ala61opbHV9%0AMQNnS7jNRIuNhIq9zew3rEe8SgB3QGJfF6rWb3GJnE5jI%2BIf1vkr1BCc8pVS%0AAjpX.aPqw4yTEZyPbdMIcEWorIi3dPArisdFxGAQYJpPyE2aBKCuAmzKgGaz%0A.vnerSBMlvR2aeRmnUt8KfMrU0YcIR83FfgmQxwMbBsmz8lggrMTZIIO2hgy%0AujjWwDkEVolMdNdecoometT67oma9Tx93Rguptz3SsKI9wii9KvHvGWd%0A-----------end_max5_patcher-----------&#038;copied=copied!&#038;;copyto=copy to clipboard"  bgcolor="#ffffff"  wmode="opaque" /> </object></div>
<div id="post46487-0" style="display:none;visibility:hidden;" >
<div class="patchtoggleInfo"><small>Copy <b>all</b> of the following text.Then, in Max, select <em>New From Clipboard</em>.</small></div>
<div class="patchtogglediv">
<pre><code id="pastedcode46487-0">----------begin_max5_patcher----------
894.3ocyWEraaCCC8ryWglwN1UXK6LmrKC63.J11gBrCcEAx1JIZyVxvVIsa
E8eexRx1RMJooYIc4hEBEEC4iTOQ9vHO+T183FevG.2.77dXjmmTTq.O8u87
KQ2mUfZjp4mwJKwTt+Ep83364R4WuDCppwMXNfk9SbFG78Oe0UfLFkWyJ.7k
jF.gxwKv0er6vEDJNishJs.TKjjKsmvHuKLtSS5pRBs.yk9PnV3bgsonRrT+
OUSPEFpyVw6zOvP+Fxej5O8xNoUHd1RBcwrZgSqPBHbrXaP3j.4RPR6BT7Eb
a6Ydbzn1OWrmHlBU7cDdvcFd1AQrVpRD+2UXku1adfOgJWrE.t8Yiyo5vTtD
GzFlcmQZpY4HNpqFoOHUdXJt1vmExFzc7EpvLp0Uzp16kIPEV1AjtMK7ewrG
TxpD2zfVf2n7tgypwf2F5JMF5LMBegUogaKAOjB2+B3PYt78pLZjL8N9.Ke2
Fh.c.ESNpHgr5ixQbBiZDbQIxpVXKB.Bze5wniA7o+GhjFOBd43S.74pRZ5q
B7oBqSI7oAtSI74p5K476d3j+OERiO+Ph3iWMQGo+FgczQocA31Ba86qoH5h
CAAFqZpHRtLV8l6g1SAEemHf2nVnBvpvoxlsb8PkS3I3T2MklNHDJWznPhYW
FsmQ8fuQe.9yIE3035FA8kYKF9CVNIHr0XSjTYvvIRKOMZvzBXbQAK6W3bCO
WzLAd9KxHBPkNbf.ShSK1SklDpIy6S+iQqJ3ybhc1aOGkg25Yclm77WTSxYz
Vev5jsh692tQdsq6xmkFTTkiCyYrhTT8ZRCIs.akHDknHJoDwwbhxefA8miT
VUSTc12KCSQBarrISLQPgkoT6r1wN430jL7cjb9RosFPKqQWLafz7xik7cNJ
yliy7M6wY95W9g+0NGn4MllvZnlXiMLtIFad.WjU69F41uUt8ala61opbHV9
MQNnS7jNRIuNhIq9zew3rEe8SgB3QGJfF6rWb3GJnE5jI+If1vkr1BCc8pVS
AjpX.aPqw4yTEZyPbdMIcEWorIi3dPArisdFxGAQYJpPyE2aBKCuAmzKgGaz
.vnerSBMlvR2aeRmnUt8KfMrU0YcIR83FfgmQxwMbBsmz8lggrMTZIIO2hgy
ujjWwDkEVolMdNdecoometT67oma9Tx93Rguptz3SsKI9wii9KvHvGWd
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------</code></pre></div>
</div>
<p>Thanks!</p>
						]]>
					</description>

					
					
				</item>

			
				<item>
					<guid>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/is-there-any-way-to-have-the-preset-object-control-subpathers/#post-167328</guid>
					<title><![CDATA[Re: Is there any way to have the preset object control subpathers?]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/is-there-any-way-to-have-the-preset-object-control-subpathers/#post-167328</link>
					<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Emmanuel Jourdan</dc:creator>

					<description>
						<![CDATA[
						<p>Not with <b>preset</b>. You might want to have a look at <b>pattrstorage</b>.</p>
						]]>
					</description>

					
					
				</item>

			
				<item>
					<guid>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/is-there-any-way-to-have-the-preset-object-control-subpathers/#post-167329</guid>
					<title><![CDATA[Re: Is there any way to have the preset object control subpathers?]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/is-there-any-way-to-have-the-preset-object-control-subpathers/#post-167329</link>
					<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>seejayjames</dc:creator>

					<description>
						<![CDATA[
						<p>pattrstorage is very powerful with the interpolation and attribute control, but there are two disadvantages compared to preset: 1) you have to have the separate .xml file, and 2) if you add or take away an object from your pattrstorage client list, all your stored slots will be deleted when it restructures (can others confirm this?). With preset if you add or take away objects, all you need to do is re-load and re-store each stored setting, which you can do automatically with a message &#8220;$1, store $1&#8243; and the output of an uzi.</p>
<p>Also don&#8217;t copy presets with anything stored in them and expect them to work as you&#8217;d think, the new copies will reference the objects connected to the original preset. You need to re-load and re-store, or clearall and start over.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a workaround to store values in a subpatcher with a preset on the level above. It&#8217;s a bit more work but functions fine and you can hide the &#8220;proxy&#8221; objects which are actually stored by the preset. You could also look into [value] or send/receive to get the values to where you want. Don&#8217;t forget you need a set $1 somewhere or you&#8217;ll get a stack overflow.</p>
<p><div><span id="toggle167329-0" class="patchtoggle" onmousedown="toggleMaxPatch('post167329-0', 'er167329-0');">&#8211; Pasted Max <span id="maxversion167329-0"></span> Patch, click to <span id="er167329-0">expand</span>. &#8211;</span> <object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000"  width="110" height="14" class="clippy" ><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="quality" value="high" /><param name="scale" value="noscale" /><param NAME="FlashVars" value="copied=copied!&#038;copyto=copy to clipboard"/><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"/><param name="wmode" value="opaque"/><embed src="/wp-content/plugins/bbpress-copy-compressed/clippy.swf"  width="110" height="14"   name="clippy"  quality="high"  allowScriptAccess="always"  type="application/x-shockwave-flash"  pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"  FlashVars="text=----------begin_max5_patcher----------%0A1065.3oc2Xs0aaBCE94Lo8e.YsGyhr4VH6s86npJx.todCLHvoqaS6%2B9L1by%0ADH3jl1xVd.hN9x4iOet4yu%2B3GVABydlTBr9h0cVqV8agjURYURV0HXEHE%2BbT%0ABtTNQ.i7irvuAVWOFm7LWJOOJiwKxRZGI6HOgv4%2BLmnT..XceyXOHlKCmJGA%0A70BJtaYzXoPgN9LxFzeAkzeIW.BtA1HmcLkxDpQhMTizbLO5QJ6v9BRDWoca%0AOwhrBjO8fa7ghe1qsPAafcvRraJTqucORiiILoHoj%2B7wOT8V7Z8Kl13VY4h8%0AdRRSN5ESbnaMw4Ke5h1rcW0u2PhKkTVhOPNk49Y1wBqxigRLeKs5fiSdNa1Z%0AC87Gk.smk.ss2rCtMv0WPcH2MNU1eNBwvyPi2bisbqJRauAj15qf3BtLityw%0AYHOIosS8zdiqAtq1iX0ooBRQMm0PZBfRSHOQJJoYZyeEnCJaQHYjipOCKGzN%0A4goiaObHNNNjjE8chjJfsRiIObYaSkud2JjyT6wfoRY4EjRBii403WS23iI7%0A8SbRnOgGvQjoW93G7q.GJnwYLU7o9qsRdiJuyREvUC6xIvv4isXdVVRHt3IZ%0AIMLgnelHL5wLZJlS3TEjrgcqjllWPYb8sivvhs4wxHQhoD8cSMzSiMjVVw91%0AKZdd5CLvCTYW1RVSFeVYc16XruSvN%2BJxC4GLtQvjgwmzqR4Og1J2q53Rdirk%0A87pf8GJJKMkn3X.nUdcDp5%2Bt90hyffq%2BC2dQ%2BgOHEmdL6RB25S51KmIG2Lgq%0AGRp6LyNzQxd1NSaGNUblIi5OmMp8IEb3e9yKz%2BQGKAfWGtUt5EA2JA84YOYv%0A76mfg7MwvUjdPks0v3mvY3ul86Bhhfd6hhX.kNMe5AtZVA4rjYEghCEE9Mqk%0Alnf2PL6vU6x5dctrFlxdWy8VgCpAdr5f%2BmkCsek3PzMiC6UEaBkMYQhRPTMg%0AIX2RwsvhZuguJOr0..ESJ4TVao820U43vY1ceGMNJkFmmINVpAo08laWbw3O%0AvX7CWj320T7uaQBeaSgevhD99lBe2EI78LE912b32LP0WRcqNJwOQh2KTmH9%0A2dLmWPCOxUQpzZ8wrcH3b28e9tFb5nSpnCIYg3j5VzzpQfIMin8q%2B5aUlVtM%0ACyqYXCw7tgcgUkCScA1QxgYPuvVjTjysihp6Y36BEIu.BeZJpY7VxRWPGF62%0AvCvUPA8JBGotsh6Y5vra6dIgy9XLG2qjl1ndMl.ZEaA5ls25tHgslKMeqUmF%0AqaOsOcbOm1vacAjGS01WrpEU9Mixc7MT4NWtxClS49A8Ud8%2B6L%2BTmZ5EZVaN%0ANLGUiQ4I4lP54bLprfwZf93IjF0UwbrgLAaC%2BBdq.GzHvgdW.W04EZNr48t.%0AMOSs2Pu4PyY45JDXBzbdebDLAZdKWn8xYsJAhW%2BE5u1Mq%0A-----------end_max5_patcher-----------&#038;copied=copied!&#038;;copyto=copy to clipboard"  bgcolor="#ffffff"  wmode="opaque" /> </object></div>
<div id="post167329-0" style="display:none;visibility:hidden;" >
<div class="patchtoggleInfo"><small>Copy <b>all</b> of the following text.Then, in Max, select <em>New From Clipboard</em>.</small></div>
<div class="patchtogglediv">
<pre><code id="pastedcode167329-0">----------begin_max5_patcher----------
1065.3oc2Xs0aaBCE94Lo8e.YsGyhr4VH6s86npJx.todCLHvoqaS6+9L1by
DH3jl1xVd.hN9x4iOet4yu+3GVABydlTBr9h0cVqV8agjURYURV0HXEHE+bT
BtTNQ.i7irvuAVWOFm7LWJOOJiwKxRZGI6HOgv4+LmnT..XceyXOHlKCmJGA
70BJtaYzXoPgN9LxFzeAkzeIW.BtA1HmcLkxDpQhMTizbLO5QJ6v9BRDWoca
OwhrBjO8fa7ghe1qsPAafcvRraJTqucORiiILoHoj+7wOT8V7Z8Kl13VY4h8
dRRSN5ESbnaMw4Ke5h1rcW0u2PhKkTVhOPNk49Y1wBqxigRLeKs5fiSdNa1Z
C87Gk.smk.ss2rCtMv0WPcH2MNU1eNBwvyPi2bisbqJRauAj15qf3BtLityw
YHOIosS8zdiqAtq1iX0ooBRQMm0PZBfRSHOQJJoYZyeEnCJaQHYjipOCKGzN
4goiaObHNNNjjE8chjJfsRiIObYaSkud2JjyT6wfoRY4EjRBii403WS23iI7
8SbRnOgGvQjoW93G7q.GJnwYLU7o9qsRdiJuyREvUC6xIvv4isXdVVRHt3IZ
IMLgnelHL5wLZJlS3TEjrgcqjllWPYb8sivvhs4wxHQhoD8cSMzSiMjVVw91
KZdd5CLvCTYW1RVSFeVYc16XruSvN+JxC4GLtQvjgwmzqR4Og1J2q53Rdirk
87pf8GJJKMkn3X.nUdcDp5+t90hyffq+C2dQ+gOHEmdL6RB25S51KmIG2Lgq
GRp6LyNzQxd1NSaGNUblIi5OmMp8IEb3e9yKz+QGKAfWGtUt5EA2JA84YOYv
76mfg7MwvUjdPks0v3mvY3ul86Bhhfd6hhX.kNMe5AtZVA4rjYEghCEE9Mqk
lnf2PL6vU6x5dctrFlxdWy8VgCpAdr5f+mkCsek3PzMiC6UEaBkMYQhRPTMg
IX2RwsvhZuguJOr0..ESJ4TVao820U43vY1ceGMNJkFmmINVpAo08laWbw3O
vX7CWj320T7uaQBeaSgevhD99lBe2EI78LE912b32LP0WRcqNJwOQh2KTmH9
2dLmWPCOxUQpzZ8wrcH3b28e9tFb5nSpnCIYg3j5VzzpQfIMin8q+5aUlVtM
CyqYXCw7tgcgUkCScA1QxgYPuvVjTjysihp6Y36BEIu.BeZJpY7VxRWPGF62
vCvUPA8JBGotsh6Y5vra6dIgy9XLG2qjl1ndMl.ZEaA5ls25tHgslKMeqUmF
qaOsOcbOm1vacAjGS01WrpEU9Mixc7MT4NWtxClS49A8Ud8+6L+TmZ5EZVaN
NLGUiQ4I4lP54bLprfwZf93IjF0UwbrgLAaC+Bdq.GzHvgdW.W04EZNr48t.
MOSs2Pu4PyY45JDXBzbdebDLAZdKWn8xYsJAhW+E5u1Mq
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------</code></pre></div>
</div>
</p>						]]>
					</description>

					
					
				</item>

					
		
	</channel>
	</rss>

