Joost Rekveld

this is a weird one: jit.3m gives funky results with 1-dimensional 

In example patch below the 100 x 100 noise matrix gives 0.0, 0.5, 1.0 

But the 10000 x 1 noise matrix gives 0.0, 2.0, 1.0 ....

on max 4.6.2 jitter 1.6.2 macintel 2x2x2.66Ghz macos 10.4.10

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"There is little use in devising a system of thought about

the nature of the trap if the only thing to do in order to

get out of the trap is to know the trap and find the exit.

Everything else is utterly useless: Singing hymns about

the suffering in the trap ... or making poems about the

freedom outside of the trap, dreamed of within the trap ...

The first thing to do is to find the exit out of the trap.

The nature of the trap has no interest whatsoever beyond

this is a weird one: jit.3m gives funky results with 1-dimensional  
matrices as input.

In example patch below the 100 x 100 noise matrix gives 0.0, 0.5, 1.0  
as expected
But the 10000 x 1 noise matrix gives 0.0, 2.0, 1.0 ....

                        	      Joost Rekveld
-----------    http://www.lumen.nu/rekveld

"There is little use in devising a system of thought about
the nature of the trap if the only thing to do in order to
get out of the trap is to know the trap and find the exit.
Everything else is utterly useless: Singing hymns about
the suffering in the trap ... or making poems about the
freedom outside of the trap, dreamed of within the trap ...
The first thing to do is to find the exit out of the trap.
The nature of the trap has no interest whatsoever beyond
this one crucial point:
WHERE IS THE EXIT OUT OF THE TRAP?

jit-3m-bug

yep. Seems the 10000 case is wrong but the 10000x1 case is correct.

> this is a weird one: jit.3m gives funky results with 1-dimensional

> In example patch below the 100 x 100 noise matrix gives 0.0, 0.5, 1.0

> But the 10000 x 1 noise matrix gives 0.0, 2.0, 1.0 ....

> on max 4.6.2 jitter 1.6.2 macintel 2x2x2.66Ghz macos 10.4.10

> #P flonum 360 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> #P flonum 308 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> #P flonum 262 158 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> #P newex 291 81 125 196617 jit.noise 1 float32 10000;

> #P flonum 168 152 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> #P flonum 116 152 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> #P flonum 70 153 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> #P newex 99 76 134 196617 jit.noise 1 float32 100 100;

yep.  Seems the 10000 case is wrong but the 10000x1 case is correct.
thanks for the report.
wes

On 10/24/07, Joost Rekveld  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this is a weird one: jit.3m gives funky results with 1-dimensional
> matrices as input.
>
> In example patch below the 100 x 100 noise matrix gives 0.0, 0.5, 1.0
> as expected
> But the 10000 x 1 noise matrix gives 0.0, 2.0, 1.0 ....
>
> on max 4.6.2 jitter 1.6.2 macintel 2x2x2.66Ghz macos 10.4.10
>
>
> max v2;
> #N vpatcher 30 89 562 337;
> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
> #P flonum 360 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #P flonum 308 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #P flonum 262 158 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #P window linecount 1;
> #P newex 291 81 125 196617 jit.noise 1 float32 10000;
> #P newex 290 112 53 196617 jit.3m;
> #P flonum 168 152 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #P flonum 116 152 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #P flonum 70 153 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #P button 239 30 15 0;
> #P newex 99 76 134 196617 jit.noise 1 float32 100 100;
> #P newex 98 107 53 196617 jit.3m;
> #P connect 0 0 3 0;
> #P connect 1 0 0 0;
> #P fasten 2 0 1 0 244 60 104 60;
> #P connect 0 1 4 0;
> #P connect 0 2 5 0;
> #P connect 6 0 8 0;
> #P connect 7 0 6 0;
> #P fasten 2 0 7 0 244 63 296 63;
> #P connect 6 1 9 0;
> #P connect 6 2 10 0;
> #P pop;
>
>
> ciao,
>
>
> Joost.
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
>                                       Joost Rekveld
> -----------    http://www.lumen.nu/rekveld
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> "There is little use in devising a system of thought about
> the nature of the trap if the only thing to do in order to
> get out of the trap is to know the trap and find the exit.
> Everything else is utterly useless: Singing hymns about
> the suffering in the trap ... or making poems about the
> freedom outside of the trap, dreamed of within the trap ...
> The first thing to do is to find the exit out of the trap.
> The nature of the trap has no interest whatsoever beyond
> this one crucial point:
> WHERE IS THE EXIT OUT OF THE TRAP?
>
> (Wilhelm Reich)
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Also, if you turn parallel processing off, it will fix your problem.

There is an issue with parallel jitter and large 1D matrices.

> yep. Seems the 10000 case is wrong but the 10000x1 case is correct.

> > this is a weird one: jit.3m gives funky results with 1-dimensional

> > In example patch below the 100 x 100 noise matrix gives 0.0, 0.5, 1.0

> > But the 10000 x 1 noise matrix gives 0.0, 2.0, 1.0 ....

> > on max 4.6.2 jitter 1.6.2 macintel 2x2x2.66Ghz macos 10.4.10

> > #P flonum 360 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> > #P flonum 308 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> > #P flonum 262 158 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> > #P newex 291 81 125 196617 jit.noise 1 float32 10000;

> > #P flonum 168 152 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> > #P flonum 116 152 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> > #P flonum 70 153 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

> > #P newex 99 76 134 196617 jit.noise 1 float32 100 100;

Also, if you turn parallel processing off, it will fix your problem.
There is an issue with parallel jitter and large 1D matrices.

On 10/24/07, Wesley Smith  wrote:
> yep.  Seems the 10000 case is wrong but the 10000x1 case is correct.
> thanks for the report.
> wes
>
> On 10/24/07, Joost Rekveld  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is a weird one: jit.3m gives funky results with 1-dimensional
> > matrices as input.
> >
> > In example patch below the 100 x 100 noise matrix gives 0.0, 0.5, 1.0
> > as expected
> > But the 10000 x 1 noise matrix gives 0.0, 2.0, 1.0 ....
> >
> > on max 4.6.2 jitter 1.6.2 macintel 2x2x2.66Ghz macos 10.4.10
> >
> >
> > max v2;
> > #N vpatcher 30 89 562 337;
> > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
> > #P flonum 360 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> > #P flonum 308 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> > #P flonum 262 158 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> > #P window linecount 1;
> > #P newex 291 81 125 196617 jit.noise 1 float32 10000;
> > #P newex 290 112 53 196617 jit.3m;
> > #P flonum 168 152 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> > #P flonum 116 152 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> > #P flonum 70 153 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> > #P button 239 30 15 0;
> > #P newex 99 76 134 196617 jit.noise 1 float32 100 100;
> > #P newex 98 107 53 196617 jit.3m;
> > #P connect 0 0 3 0;
> > #P connect 1 0 0 0;
> > #P fasten 2 0 1 0 244 60 104 60;
> > #P connect 0 1 4 0;
> > #P connect 0 2 5 0;
> > #P connect 6 0 8 0;
> > #P connect 7 0 6 0;
> > #P fasten 2 0 7 0 244 63 296 63;
> > #P connect 6 1 9 0;
> > #P connect 6 2 10 0;
> > #P pop;
> >
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> >
> > Joost.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> >                                       Joost Rekveld
> > -----------    http://www.lumen.nu/rekveld
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> > "There is little use in devising a system of thought about
> > the nature of the trap if the only thing to do in order to
> > get out of the trap is to know the trap and find the exit.
> > Everything else is utterly useless: Singing hymns about
> > the suffering in the trap ... or making poems about the
> > freedom outside of the trap, dreamed of within the trap ...
> > The first thing to do is to find the exit out of the trap.
> > The nature of the trap has no interest whatsoever beyond
> > this one crucial point:
> > WHERE IS THE EXIT OUT OF THE TRAP?
> >
> > (Wilhelm Reich)
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


thanks for tracking it down, but I wouldn't like to sacrifice my 

I mainly use jit.3m for debugging, and I suppose that your 

xray.jit.mean would be a good alternative in the meantime...

On Oct 24, 2007, at 5:46 , Wesley Smith wrote:

> Also, if you turn parallel processing off, it will fix your problem.

> There is an issue with parallel jitter and large 1D matrices.

> #P message 41 65 85 196617 ; jitter parallel 0;

> #P window clipboard copytext ";jitter parallel 0" #E;

thanks for tracking it down, but I wouldn't like to sacrifice my  
jitter parallellity for this..
I mainly use jit.3m for debugging, and I suppose that your  
xray.jit.mean would be a good alternative in the meantime...

> Also, if you turn parallel processing off, it will fix your problem.
> There is an issue with parallel jitter and large 1D matrices.
>
> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
> #P window linecount 1;
> #P message 41 65 85 196617 ; jitter parallel 0;
> #P window clipboard copytext ";jitter parallel 0" #E;
> #P window clipboard copycount 1;
>
>
> wes
>

jit.3m bug..