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					<title><![CDATA[jit.cellblock and key]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Peter Nyboer</dc:creator>

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						<p>since cellblock takes the focus of the keyboard from the &#8220;key&#8221; object, i can&#8217;t detect needed keystrokes once something is selected in the cellblock!  Is there a way to take the focus from cellblock without having to select something else?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.cellblock and key]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>David Beaudry</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hey Peter,<br />
My work around has always been to create a number box, select it  <br />
(sending it a &#8220;select&#8221; message&#8221;, then deleting the number box via  <br />
scripting messages to thispatcher. I&#8217;ve made it into an abstraction,  <br />
actually, and wrt cellblock, I have it connected to the sync outlet.  <br />
Every once in a while I get an error that the object that is being  <br />
created doesn&#8217;t exist, which no amount of deferlows or delays or  <br />
speedlims or qlims seem to have been able to help, but in general it  <br />
works for changing focus.</p>
<p>Hope this helps,<br />
David</p>
<p>On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:17 PM, pnyboer wrote:</p>
<p>><br />
> since cellblock takes the focus of the keyboard from the &#8220;key&#8221;  <br />
> object, i can&#8217;t detect needed keystrokes once something is selected  <br />
> in the cellblock!  Is there a way to take the focus from cellblock  <br />
> without having to select something else?<br />
> &#8211;<br />
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br />
> The Lifespan<br />
> 2 oz brandy<br />
> 1/2 oz orgeat<br />
> 1/2 oz maraschino<br />
> 3/4 oz mix of (meyer) lemon and (yellow) grapefruit juice<br />
> Shake with ice and serve in a Pernod-rinsed cocktail glass</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.cellblock and key]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vade</dc:creator>

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						<p>My issue with this is that, due to bpatchers and their lack of double  <br />
buffering, you (or, well at least I do), get lots of re-drawing  <br />
glitches where the numberbox &#8216;shows through&#8217;.</p>
<p>This is some functionality that is, imo, seriously broken. Objects  <br />
like these  should not retain focus after enter is hit.<br />
On Aug 21, 2007, at 10:15 PM, David Beaudry wrote:</p>
<p>> Hey Peter,<br />
> My work around has always been to create a number box, select it  <br />
> (sending it a &#8220;select&#8221; message&#8221;, then deleting the number box via  <br />
> scripting messages to thispatcher. I&#8217;ve made it into an  <br />
> abstraction, actually, and wrt cellblock, I have it connected to  <br />
> the sync outlet. Every once in a while I get an error that the  <br />
> object that is being created doesn&#8217;t exist, which no amount of  <br />
> deferlows or delays or speedlims or qlims seem to have been able to  <br />
> help, but in general it works for changing focus.<br />
><br />
> Hope this helps,<br />
> David<br />
><br />
><br />
><br />
> On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:17 PM, pnyboer wrote:<br />
><br />
>><br />
>> since cellblock takes the focus of the keyboard from the &#8220;key&#8221;  <br />
>> object, i can&#8217;t detect needed keystrokes once something is  <br />
>> selected in the cellblock!  Is there a way to take the focus from  <br />
>> cellblock without having to select something else?<br />
>> &#8211;<br />
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br />
>> The Lifespan<br />
>> 2 oz brandy<br />
>> 1/2 oz orgeat<br />
>> 1/2 oz maraschino<br />
>> 3/4 oz mix of (meyer) lemon and (yellow) grapefruit juice<br />
>> Shake with ice and serve in a Pernod-rinsed cocktail glass<br />
></p>
<p>v a d e //</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vade.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.vade.info</a><br />
abstrakt.vade.info</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.cellblock and key]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>David Beaudry</dc:creator>

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						<p>Here&#8217;s my little abstraction. I thought I should include it for completeness.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
David</p>
<p>#P window setfont &#8220;Sans Serif&#8221; 9.;<br />
#P window linecount 1;<br />
#P newex 45 220 50 196617 deferlow;<br />
#P newex 45 53 20 196617 t b;<br />
#N comlet bang;<br />
#P inlet 45 34 15 0;<br />
#P newex 45 79 70 196617 speedlim 200;<br />
#P window linecount 2;<br />
#P message 45 108 342 196617 script new focushere number 218 324 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0 , script send focushere select , script delete focushere;<br />
#P window linecount 1;<br />
#N thispatcher;<br />
#Q end;<br />
#P newobj 45 293 60 196617 thispatcher;<br />
#P connect 1 0 5 0;<br />
#P connect 5 0 0 0;<br />
#P connect 2 0 1 0;<br />
#P connect 4 0 2 0;<br />
#P connect 3 0 4 0;<br />
#P window clipboard copycount 6;</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.cellblock and key]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>David Beaudry</dc:creator>

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						<p>Actually I just did a test and if I use qlim vs. speedlim (and remove the deferlow), I don&#8217;t seem to get those errors I mentioned before. </p>
<p>David</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.cellblock and key]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>David Beaudry</dc:creator>

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						<p>put it in an abstraction (or even a subpatch I would imagine) within  <br />
the bpather and you don&#8217;t&#8230;at least not that I have found and I have  <br />
oodles of bpatchers at the moment.</p>
<p>David</p>
<p>On Aug 21, 2007, at 8:10 PM, vade wrote:</p>
<p>> My issue with this is that, due to bpatchers and their lack of  <br />
> double buffering, you (or, well at least I do), get lots of re- <br />
> drawing glitches where the numberbox &#8216;shows through&#8217;.<br />
><br />
> This is some functionality that is, imo, seriously broken. Objects  <br />
> like these  should not retain focus after enter is hit.<br />
> On Aug 21, 2007, at 10:15 PM, David Beaudry wrote:<br />
><br />
>> Hey Peter,<br />
>> My work around has always been to create a number box, select it  <br />
>> (sending it a &#8220;select&#8221; message&#8221;, then deleting the number box via  <br />
>> scripting messages to thispatcher. I&#8217;ve made it into an  <br />
>> abstraction, actually, and wrt cellblock, I have it connected to  <br />
>> the sync outlet. Every once in a while I get an error that the  <br />
>> object that is being created doesn&#8217;t exist, which no amount of  <br />
>> deferlows or delays or speedlims or qlims seem to have been able  <br />
>> to help, but in general it works for changing focus.<br />
>><br />
>> Hope this helps,<br />
>> David<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:17 PM, pnyboer wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>><br />
>>> since cellblock takes the focus of the keyboard from the &#8220;key&#8221;  <br />
>>> object, i can&#8217;t detect needed keystrokes once something is  <br />
>>> selected in the cellblock!  Is there a way to take the focus from  <br />
>>> cellblock without having to select something else?<br />
>>> &#8211;<br />
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br />
>>> The Lifespan<br />
>>> 2 oz brandy<br />
>>> 1/2 oz orgeat<br />
>>> 1/2 oz maraschino<br />
>>> 3/4 oz mix of (meyer) lemon and (yellow) grapefruit juice<br />
>>> Shake with ice and serve in a Pernod-rinsed cocktail glass<br />
>><br />
><br />
> v a d e //<br />
><br />
> <a href="http://www.vade.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.vade.info</a><br />
> abstrakt.vade.info<br />
><br />
><br />
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.cellblock and key]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vade</dc:creator>

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						<p>hm. I could have sworn I tried that and had issues. Ill give it  <br />
another shot.</p>
<p>but christ, is that ever a freaking hack or what? :)</p>
<p>
On Aug 21, 2007, at 11:25 PM, David Beaudry wrote:</p>
<p>> put it in an abstraction (or even a subpatch I would imagine)  <br />
> within the bpather and you don&#8217;t&#8230;at least not that I have found  <br />
> and I have oodles of bpatchers at the moment.<br />
><br />
> David<br />
><br />
> On Aug 21, 2007, at 8:10 PM, vade wrote:<br />
><br />
>> My issue with this is that, due to bpatchers and their lack of  <br />
>> double buffering, you (or, well at least I do), get lots of re- <br />
>> drawing glitches where the numberbox &#8216;shows through&#8217;.<br />
>><br />
>> This is some functionality that is, imo, seriously broken. Objects  <br />
>> like these  should not retain focus after enter is hit.<br />
>> On Aug 21, 2007, at 10:15 PM, David Beaudry wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>> Hey Peter,<br />
>>> My work around has always been to create a number box, select it  <br />
>>> (sending it a &#8220;select&#8221; message&#8221;, then deleting the number box via  <br />
>>> scripting messages to thispatcher. I&#8217;ve made it into an  <br />
>>> abstraction, actually, and wrt cellblock, I have it connected to  <br />
>>> the sync outlet. Every once in a while I get an error that the  <br />
>>> object that is being created doesn&#8217;t exist, which no amount of  <br />
>>> deferlows or delays or speedlims or qlims seem to have been able  <br />
>>> to help, but in general it works for changing focus.<br />
>>><br />
>>> Hope this helps,<br />
>>> David<br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>> On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:17 PM, pnyboer wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> since cellblock takes the focus of the keyboard from the &#8220;key&#8221;  <br />
>>>> object, i can&#8217;t detect needed keystrokes once something is  <br />
>>>> selected in the cellblock!  Is there a way to take the focus  <br />
>>>> from cellblock without having to select something else?<br />
>>>> &#8211;<br />
>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br />
>>>> The Lifespan<br />
>>>> 2 oz brandy<br />
>>>> 1/2 oz orgeat<br />
>>>> 1/2 oz maraschino<br />
>>>> 3/4 oz mix of (meyer) lemon and (yellow) grapefruit juice<br />
>>>> Shake with ice and serve in a Pernod-rinsed cocktail glass<br />
>>><br />
>><br />
>> v a d e //<br />
>><br />
>> <a href="http://www.vade.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.vade.info</a><br />
>> abstrakt.vade.info<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
></p>
<p>v a d e //</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vade.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.vade.info</a><br />
abstrakt.vade.info</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>David Beaudry</dc:creator>

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> but christ, is that ever a freaking hack or what? :)<br />
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<p>seriously!</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Peter Nyboer</dc:creator>

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						<p>yes, it&#8217;s a hack, and exactly what I wanted to avoid, since a message such as &#8220;deselect&#8221; or &#8220;please give me my keyboard back.  dammit!&#8221; is more elegant than getting into machinations of shiva and vishnu.</p>
<p>i decided on using the row selection data output to trigger a select to a number box. fortunately, i don&#8217;t need my numberkeys, as those would get sucked up by the now-selected number box!!</p>
<p>P.</p>
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