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					<title><![CDATA[jit.window @visible 0  flicker evil]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>AudioMatt</dc:creator>

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						<p>I would have assumed this would be on the boards but search revealed little.  Also assuming that this will yield a deafening onslaught of api hatred from some poor cycling programmer. I empathize.</p>
<p>[jit.window @visible 0 @pos 400 400 @size 200 200]<br />
flickers like hell when I load it.  </p>
<p>[jit.window @visible 0 @pos -400 -400 @size 200 200]<br />
Still flickers like hell when I load it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m creating it in java so I cant even create it with the attributes intact I have to create it, then set the attributes.  My windows are going ape at start up.</p>
<p>any ideas?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.window @visible 0  flicker evil]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Zachary Seldess</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hi AudioMatt,</p>
<p>What do you mean it flickers? You&#8217;ve set it to @visible 0 so it shouldn&#8217;t be visible at all. If you post a sample patch someone may be able to help.</p>
<p>best,<br />
Zachary</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.window @visible 0  flicker evil]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>AudioMatt</dc:creator>

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						<p>It just flashes as soon as it&#8217;s instantiated. No one else has this problem?<br />
5.07<br />
10.5.8</p>
<p>is it fixed in updates?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.window @visible 0  flicker evil]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>AudioMatt</dc:creator>

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						<p>like my video capture skills?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.window @visible 0  flicker evil]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Zachary Seldess</dc:creator>

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						<p>No, you&#8217;re right. It shows up as visible for an instant. I&#8217;m on 5.1.0, MacOSX 10.5.8. I&#8217;ve either never noticed before, or noticed and not cared. Will have to defer to the Cycling folks on this &#8211; no idea how to prevent it.</p>
<p>best,<br />
Zachary</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.window @visible 0  flicker evil]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>nicolas danet</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hello maxers, </p>
<p>i report that long time ago. To fix it, i replaced my [jit.window] by a [jit.pwindow] behind a white [panel] in a subpatch. So no black flash on instantiation.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.window @visible 0  flicker evil]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>AudioMatt</dc:creator>

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						<p>Yeah, I thought of this.  Doesn&#8217;t bode well for resizing my UI object.  I&#8217;ll see what I can do.  I tried a home made grow box and that just was NOT happening.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.window @visible 0  flicker evil]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Rob Ramirez</dc:creator>

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						<p>this behavior *may* be changed in a future version of max.<br />
for the time being, our suggestion is to create the window with offscreen coordinates using the @rect attribute in addition to the @visible flag.  </p>
<p>another possibility is creating the window only when you&#8217;ll need it with scripting.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.window @visible 0  flicker evil]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>AudioMatt</dc:creator>

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						<p>thanks for the reply. Just to let you know.</p>
<p>[ jit.window @rect -100 -100 -150 -150 @visible 0 ]  does it too</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: jit.window @visible 0  flicker evil]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Rob Ramirez</dc:creator>

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						<p>yeah, i see that. looks like scripting is your only option.</p>
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