Hello all; I just upgraded to Max/MSP 4.6.3 and Jitter 1.6.3.

Now whenever I try to open anything Jitter the whole shebang crashes. 

I have reinstalled, repaired permissions, restarted etc. but to no avail. 

The Max window reports upon startup that Jitter 1.6.3 is installed. 

I am still running 10.3.9 on my old G4 867 MHz laptop. 

Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. 

Hello all;  I just upgraded to Max/MSP 4.6.3 and Jitter 1.6.3.
Now whenever I try to open anything Jitter the whole shebang crashes. 
I have reinstalled, repaired permissions, restarted etc. but to no avail. 
The Max window reports upon startup that Jitter 1.6.3 is installed.  
I am still running 10.3.9 on my old G4 867 MHz laptop.  
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.  
Thanks very much in advance.

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On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Briggan Krauss 

> Hello all; I just upgraded to Max/MSP 4.6.3 and Jitter 1.6.3.

> Now whenever I try to open anything Jitter the whole shebang crashes.

> I have reinstalled, repaired permissions, restarted etc. but to no avail.

> The Max window reports upon startup that Jitter 1.6.3 is installed.

> I am still running 10.3.9 on my old G4 867 MHz laptop.

> Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.

First thing that comes to mind when Jitter crashes is Quicktime. You could

try to reinstall/update that. I'm not sure if the current version plays well

with Jitter/10.3.9 though. Might be a good idea to search the Jitter list

If that doesn't help maybe try updating your PACE drivers...

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Briggan Krauss 
wrote:

>
> Hello all;  I just upgraded to Max/MSP 4.6.3 and Jitter 1.6.3.
> Now whenever I try to open anything Jitter the whole shebang crashes.
> I have reinstalled, repaired permissions, restarted etc. but to no avail.
> The Max window reports upon startup that Jitter 1.6.3 is installed.
> I am still running 10.3.9 on my old G4 867 MHz laptop.
> Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.
> Thanks very much in advance.
>
>
First thing that comes to mind when Jitter crashes is Quicktime. You could
try to reinstall/update that. I'm not sure if the current version plays well
with Jitter/10.3.9 though. Might be a good idea to search the Jitter list
first for any recent QT version issues.

Thanks for the advice. I updated to the current version of Quicktime and still have the same problem. In fact any patch (even non-Jitter) created in my past version of Max/MSP/Jitter (Max/MSP 4.5.6 and Jitter 1.5.2) crashes. Could this be either because I still have my old versions of Max/MSP/Jitter on my hard drive or because I am running OS 10.3.9? The upgrade to 4.6 is useless to me and is a little frustrating. Thanks very much for your help.

Thanks for the advice.  I updated to the current version of Quicktime and still have the same problem.  In fact any patch (even non-Jitter) created in my past version of Max/MSP/Jitter (Max/MSP 4.5.6 and Jitter 1.5.2) crashes.  Could this be either because I still have my old versions of Max/MSP/Jitter on my hard drive or because I am running OS 10.3.9?  The upgrade to 4.6 is useless to me and is a little frustrating.  Thanks very much for your help. 

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Briggan Krauss 

> Thanks for the advice. I updated to the current version of Quicktime and

> still have the same problem. In fact any patch (even non-Jitter) created in

> my past version of Max/MSP/Jitter (Max/MSP 4.5.6 and Jitter 1.5.2)

> crashes. Could this be either because I still have my old versions of

> Max/MSP/Jitter on my hard drive or because I am running OS 10.3.9? The

> upgrade to 4.6 is useless to me and is a little frustrating. Thanks very

So if you start a new patch from scratch with Max objects it also crashes?

If it's only patches that you've already build you should be able to narrow

the problem down to something specific by removing parts using 4.5.6. For a

moment I thought 4.6 requires 10.4, but I checked and this is not true

according to the C74 minimum system requirements:

"Max/MSP 4.6 requires a Mac PPC or Intel machine running OS X 10.3.9 or

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Briggan Krauss 
wrote:

>
> Thanks for the advice.  I updated to the current version of Quicktime and
> still have the same problem.  In fact any patch (even non-Jitter) created in
> my past version of Max/MSP/Jitter (Max/MSP 4.5.6 and Jitter 1.5.2)
> crashes.  Could this be either because I still have my old versions of
> Max/MSP/Jitter on my hard drive or because I am running OS 10.3.9?  The
> upgrade to 4.6 is useless to me and is a little frustrating.  Thanks very
> much for your help.
>
>
So if you start a new patch from scratch with Max objects it also crashes?
If it's only patches that you've already build you should be able to narrow
the problem down to something specific by removing parts using 4.5.6. For a
moment I thought 4.6 requires 10.4, but I checked and this is not true
according to the C74 minimum system requirements:

"Max/MSP 4.6 requires a Mac PPC or Intel machine running OS X 10.3.9 or
later (10.4 recommended)"

On Mar 26, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Briggan Krauss wrote:

> Thanks for the advice. I updated to the current version of 

> Quicktime and still have the same problem. In fact any patch (even 

> non-Jitter) created in my past version of Max/MSP/Jitter (Max/MSP 

> 4.5.6 and Jitter 1.5.2) crashes. Could this be either because I 

> still have my old versions of Max/MSP/Jitter on my hard drive or 

> because I am running OS 10.3.9? The upgrade to 4.6 is useless to 

> me and is a little frustrating. Thanks very much for your help.

The most common issue with crashing on startup is Jitter Java 

support. The first thing I would do is make sure that you don't have 

any other old folders in your search path (trash your preferences to 

get this behavior if you're crashing at launch). And then if it 

persists, add a file to your search path called jitter-config.txt 

containing the text "jitter java 0;". If this solves your crash, then 

it would appear related to your Java installation.

If it's not crashing on startup, then an example patch and crashlog 

On Mar 26, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Briggan Krauss wrote:
>
> Thanks for the advice.  I updated to the current version of  
> Quicktime and still have the same problem.  In fact any patch (even  
> non-Jitter) created in my past version of Max/MSP/Jitter (Max/MSP  
> 4.5.6 and Jitter 1.5.2) crashes.  Could this be either because I  
> still have my old versions of Max/MSP/Jitter on my hard drive or  
> because I am running OS 10.3.9?  The upgrade to 4.6 is useless to  
> me and is a little frustrating.  Thanks very much for your help.

The most common issue with crashing on startup is Jitter Java  
support. The first thing I would do is make sure that you don't have  
any other old folders in your search path (trash your preferences to  
get this behavior if you're crashing at launch). And then if it  
persists, add a file to your search path called jitter-config.txt  
containing the text "jitter java 0;". If this solves your crash, then  
it would appear related to your Java installation.

If it's not crashing on startup, then an example patch and crashlog  
is recommended.

Thanks again very much for your help and suggestions. Max seems to load ok. However trouble begins when opening existing patches. Just going through a few of the MSP Tutorial patches finds some odd things like that the adc~ object returns as bogus. This is the message "error: can't fragload adc~ (missing ),err -2807"

I should mention that I have not added any third party externals or anything. 

Most of these Tutorial patches seem to work ok but trouble begins when playing any kind of sound files. The very simple patch I've attached was made with this version and actually crashes. I do have my older version of Max/MSP/Jitter still on this computer and I wonder if it is causing confusion. I am hesitant to trash it though. 

Thanks again for your assistance. I really do appreciate your time.

Thanks again very much for your help and suggestions.  Max seems to load ok.  However trouble begins when opening existing patches.  Just going through a few of the MSP Tutorial patches finds some odd things like that the adc~ object returns as bogus.  This is the message "error: can't fragload adc~ (missing ),err -2807"
I should mention that I have not added any third party externals or anything.  
Most of these Tutorial patches seem to work ok but trouble begins when playing any kind of sound files.  The very simple patch I've attached was made with this version and actually crashes.  I do have my older version of Max/MSP/Jitter still on this computer and I wonder if it is causing confusion.  I am hesitant to trash it though.  
Thanks again for your assistance.  I really do appreciate your time.  

On Mar 27, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Briggan Krauss wrote:

> Thanks again very much for your help and suggestions. Max seems to 

> load ok. However trouble begins when opening existing patches. 

> Just going through a few of the MSP Tutorial patches finds some odd 

> things like that the adc~ object returns as bogus. This is the 

> message "error: can't fragload adc~ (missing 

Okay, This means that it's finding CFM versions (Max 4.5/Jitter 1.5). 

I assume you included your old max 4.5 folder in your search path, or 

some old standalone file. As I already mentioned, please trash your 

preferences and make sure you don't have anything non standard in 

your search path. And then let us know what you're experiencing.

It's fine to have both apps installed, but you *can't* share search 

paths for anything which contains external objects or libraries.

On Mar 27, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Briggan Krauss wrote:
> Thanks again very much for your help and suggestions.  Max seems to  
> load ok.  However trouble begins when opening existing patches.   
> Just going through a few of the MSP Tutorial patches finds some odd  
> things like that the adc~ object returns as bogus.  This is the  
> message "error: can't fragload adc~ (missing  
> ),err -2807"

Okay, This means that it's finding CFM versions (Max 4.5/Jitter 1.5).  
I assume you included your old max 4.5 folder in your search path, or  
some old standalone file. As I already mentioned, please trash your  
preferences and make sure you don't have anything non standard in  
your search path. And then let us know what you're experiencing.

It's fine to have both apps installed, but you *can't* share search  
paths for anything which contains external objects or libraries.

Happy happy thank you very much. Trashing the preferences did the trick!

I confess that that idea went in one ear and out the other because I haven't had to do that since way back in the OS 9 (and before) days. Took me a sec to even find them. Wow...feeling a bit silly but very glad to be back in shape. 

Happy happy thank you very much.  Trashing the preferences did the trick!
I confess that that idea went in one ear and out the other because I haven't had to do that since way back in the OS 9 (and before) days.  Took me a sec to even find them.  Wow...feeling a bit silly but very glad to be back in shape.  
I appreciate your help very much. 

Jitter 1.6.3 crashes Max/MSP 4.6.3