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Jitter Equivalent of v.sequence

April 28, 2008 | 11:58 am

Hi,

I am a Soft VNS user and have recently started learning Jitter. I would like to know if Jitter has the equivalent of SVNS’ v.sequence object. It basically allows you to load/store images into a buffer and play the sequence. Any of the stored images can also be exported.

Many thanks

Greg


April 28, 2008 | 12:06 pm

try jit.matrixset

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM, qfwfqduo wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am a Soft VNS user and have recently started learning Jitter. I would
> like to know if Jitter has the equivalent of SVNS’ v.sequence object. It
> basically allows you to load/store images into a buffer and play the
> sequence. Any of the stored images can also be exported.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Greg
>


April 28, 2008 | 2:23 pm

not quite. one of the benefits of softVNS was the easy management of fractional frames in v.sequence and v.buffers. you can buffer matrices in a jit.matrixset or a higher-dim jit.matrix than your source, but dealing with fractional frames requires something of a hat trick.

the methods of dealing with this differ depending on whether you’re going to go the CPU or GPU routes. which one is it going to be?


April 28, 2008 | 2:36 pm

what is a fractional frame?

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:23 PM, joshua goldberg wrote:

>
> not quite. one of the benefits of softVNS was the easy management of
> fractional frames in v.sequence and v.buffers. you can buffer matrices in a
> jit.matrixset or a higher-dim jit.matrix than your source, but dealing with
> fractional frames requires something of a hat trick.
>
> the methods of dealing with this differ depending on whether you’re going
> to go the CPU or GPU routes. which one is it going to be?
>


April 28, 2008 | 4:34 pm

Hi,

Max 5 and Max 5.0.1 crash on a PPC

PPC : G4 1.67 Ghz, 1.5 G Ram, OSX.4.11, Quicktime 7.4.5

When opening Max 5 it displays the status window, empty then crash
without crash report. The same with Max 5.0.1

When opening an example file with the runtime, it displays an empty
window (with the right background color) and when I ask for the Max
Window, it hangs or shows an empty max window.

When running the activity monitor of OSX at the same time, I see that
Max 5 crashes after the running of Midiserver, and with Max 5 runtime it
says Midiserver is not responding. When I ask for the Max window it
hangs, then crashes. See below the crash report.

Max 4.6.3 with Jitter 1.6.3 works as usual.

Date/Time: 2008-04-28 18:27:35.495 +0200
OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S165)
Report Version: 4

Command: MaxMSP Runtime
Path: /Applications/Max5/MaxMSP Runtime.app/Contents/MacOS/MaxMSP Runtime
Parent: WindowServer [93]

Version: 5.0.1 (34740) (5.0.1)

PID: 274
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0×0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0×0002) at 0×00000000

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x00270d4c
juce::Graphics::drawImage(juce::Image const*, int, int, int, int, int,
int, int, int, bool) const + 204
1 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x00270d44
juce::Graphics::drawImage(juce::Image const*, int, int, int, int, int,
int, int, int, bool) const + 196
2 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0×00271510
juce::Graphics::drawImageAt(juce::Image const*, int, int, bool) const + 64
3 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x00112e8c jgraphics_image_surface_draw_fast
+ 152
4 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x000d4430 jbox_paint_layer + 124
5 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x000cfd24
BoxComponent::paint(juce::Graphics&, juce::AffineTransform const&) + 616
6 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0×00223460
juce::Component::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&) + 432
7 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x002236a0
juce::Component::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&) + 1008
8 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x0018f17c
PatcherLayerComponent::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&) + 100
9 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x002236a0
juce::Component::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&) + 1008
10 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x002236a0
juce::Component::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&) + 1008
11 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x002236a0
juce::Component::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&) + 1008
12 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x002236a0
juce::Component::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&) + 1008
13 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x002236a0
juce::Component::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&) + 1008
14 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x002236a0
juce::Component::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&) + 1008
15 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x002236a0
juce::Component::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&) + 1008
16 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x0035d148
juce::ComponentPeer::handlePaint(juce::LowLevelGraphicsContext&) + 56
17 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001e7498
juce::HIViewComponentPeer::RepaintManager::paint(CGContext*, int, int,
int, int) + 888
18 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001e9454
juce::HIViewComponentPeer::hiViewEventHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*,
OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 980
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OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 692
20 adc~ 0x9329908c SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*,
OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 372
21 adc~ 0x93298f08 SendEventToEventTargetWithOptions + 40
22 adc~ 0x932c4560 HIView::SendDraw(short, OpaqueGrafPtr*, __HIShape
const*, CGContext*) + 396
23 adc~ 0×93425228 HIView::RecursiveDrawComposited(__HIShape const*,
unsigned long, HIView*, CGContext*, unsigned char) + 548
24 adc~ 0×93425348 HIView::RecursiveDrawComposited(__HIShape const*,
unsigned long, HIView*, CGContext*, unsigned char) + 836
25 adc~ 0×93425348 HIView::RecursiveDrawComposited(__HIShape const*,
unsigned long, HIView*, CGContext*, unsigned char) + 836
26 adc~ 0x93424fa8 HIView::DrawComposited(short, OpaqueGrafPtr*,
__HIShape const*, unsigned long, HIView*, CGContext*) + 576
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29 adc~ 0x932b3e80 ShowHide + 36
30 adc~ 0x932dcab0 ShowWindow + 56
31 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001ecd20
juce::HIViewComponentPeer::setVisible(bool) + 96
32 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x0022a428 juce::Component::setVisible(bool)
+ 552
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+ 148
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OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 692
50 adc~ 0x9329908c SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*,
OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 372
51 adc~ 0x9329fe90 SendEventToEventTarget + 40
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unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned char, OpaqueEventTargetRef*,
OpaqueEventTargetRef*, OpaqueEventRef**) + 380
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MenuResult*, MenuResult*, unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned long,
unsigned char) + 144
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long, OpaqueMenuRef**, unsigned short*) + 404
56 adc~ 0x9332f53c MenuSelect + 100
57 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001ddb08
juce::MouseClickHandlerProc(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*,
void*) + 152
58 adc~ 0×93299934 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*,
OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 692
59 adc~ 0x9329908c SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*,
OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 372
60 adc~ 0x9329fe90 SendEventToEventTarget + 40
61 adc~ 0x9348f3fc HandleMouseEvent(OpaqueEventRef*) + 388
62 adc~ 0x932a01fc
ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*,
OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 496
63 adc~ 0x93299b84 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*,
OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1284
64 adc~ 0x9329908c SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*,
OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 372
65 adc~ 0x9329fe90 SendEventToEventTarget + 40
66 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001e31c0
juce::juce_dispatchNextMessageOnSystemQueue(bool) + 992
67 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001f30c0
juce::MessageManager::runDispatchLoop() + 128
68 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001ee32c
juce::JUCEApplication::main(juce::String&, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 700
69 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001ee404 juce::JUCEApplication::main(int,
char**, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 100
70 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x0000257c _start + 760
71 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0×00002280 start + 48

Thread 1:
0 adc~ 0x9000b348 mach_msg_trap + 8
1 adc~ 0x9000b29c mach_msg + 60
2 adc~ 0x9772fac8 XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 84
3 adc~ 0x97722c80 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 64
4 adc~ 0x97726f44 XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 28
5 adc~ 0x9773087c CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 adc~ 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 2:
0 adc~ 0×90054388 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 adc~ 0x90070be8 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 556
2 adc~ 0x90bf73f4 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 176
3 adc~ 0x90bff390 TimerThread + 60
4 adc~ 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 3:
0 adc~ 0×90054388 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 adc~ 0x90070be8 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 556
2 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001df164 juce::WaitableEvent::wait(int)
const + 164
3 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001f474c juce::InternalTimerThread::run() + 236
4 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x002d2048
juce::Thread::threadEntryPoint(juce::Thread*) + 408
5 com.cycling74.MaxRuntime 0x001df290 juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 16
6 adc~ 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 4:
0 adc~ 0x9000b348 mach_msg_trap + 8
1 adc~ 0x9000b29c mach_msg + 60
2 adc~ 0x907de998 __CFRunLoopRun + 832
3 adc~ 0x907de29c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
4 adc~ 0×91457524 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 264
5 adc~ 0x914572c4 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 adc~ 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
srr0: 0x0000000000270d4c srr1: 0x000000000200f030 vrsave: 0×0000000000000000
cr: 0×24022424 xer: 0×0000000000000004 lr: 0x0000000000270d44 ctr:
0x00000000900015c8
r0: 0×0000000000000005 r1: 0x00000000bfffcff0 r2: 0×0000000000000000 r3:
0x00000000000000a1
r4: 0×0000000000000000 r5: 0x00000000000000a1 r6: 0x00000000ffffffff r7:
0x00000000000000a1
r8: 0×0000000000000889 r9: 0×0000000000000000 r10: 0×0000000000000003
r11: 0x00000000a0006208
r12: 0x00000000900015c8 r13: 0×0000000000000002 r14: 0×0000000000000000
r15: 0x00000000a3299698
r16: 0x00000000066b7430 r17: 0x00000000bfffdc1c r18: 0×0000000000000000
r19: 0×0000000000000000
r20: 0x000000000723cff0 r21: 0x00000000bfffd3f8 r22: 0×0000000000000000
r23: 0×0000000000000000
r24: 0x000000007fffffff r25: 0x000000007fffffff r26: 0×0000000000000000
r27: 0×0000000000000000
r28: 0x000000000723d120 r29: 0x00000000bfffd190 r30: 0×0000000000000018
r31: 0x0000000000270c94

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April 28, 2008 | 8:26 pm

"what is a fractional frame?"

I think Joshua is referring to v.sequence’s capability to output stored image using a float rather than just an integer. This means you can have the images fade into each other rather than jump from one to the next while outputting. It’s very useful…

Quote: yair r. wrote on Mon, 28 April 2008 08:36
—————————————————-
> what is a fractional frame?
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:23 PM, joshua goldberg wrote:
>
> >
> > not quite. one of the benefits of softVNS was the easy management of
> > fractional frames in v.sequence and v.buffers. you can buffer matrices in a
> > jit.matrixset or a higher-dim jit.matrix than your source, but dealing with
> > fractional frames requires something of a hat trick.
> >
> > the methods of dealing with this differ depending on whether you’re going
> > to go the CPU or GPU routes. which one is it going to be?
> >
>
>
>
—————————————————-


April 28, 2008 | 8:35 pm

Quote: joshua goldberg wrote on Mon, 28 April 2008 08:23
—————————————————-
> not quite. one of the benefits of softVNS was the easy management of fractional frames in v.sequence and v.buffers. you can buffer matrices in a jit.matrixset or a higher-dim jit.matrix than your source, but dealing with fractional frames requires something of a hat trick.
>
> the methods of dealing with this differ depending on whether you’re going to go the CPU or GPU routes. which one is it going to be?
—————————————————-

Hi Joshua,

Well I’m not well enough versed with Jitter to answer the question. My main concern is filling a matrix with high resolution stills then output them sequentially. I am not too concerned with fractional frames. I’ve just started looking at the matrixset object and what I need to do is import about 100 images from a folder. Is this possible? I can’t figure out how to do the indexing. (Yes, I know – read the tutorial…)

Greg


April 28, 2008 | 9:05 pm

sounds usufull.

every frame you store in matrixset resides in memory, uncompressed so it can
get expensive, memory wise.

i would offer you to consider "baking" you sequence to quicktime and work
with that.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:26 PM, qfwfqduo wrote:

>
> "what is a fractional frame?"
>
> I think Joshua is referring to v.sequence’s capability to output stored
> image using a float rather than just an integer. This means you can have the
> images fade into each other rather than jump from one to the next while
> outputting. It’s very useful…
>
>
>
> Quote: yair r. wrote on Mon, 28 April 2008 08:36
> —————————————————-
> > what is a fractional frame?
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:23 PM, joshua goldberg
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > not quite. one of the benefits of softVNS was the easy management of
> > > fractional frames in v.sequence and v.buffers. you can buffer
> matrices in a
> > > jit.matrixset or a higher-dim jit.matrix than your source, but dealing
> with
> > > fractional frames requires something of a hat trick.
> > >
> > > the methods of dealing with this differ depending on whether you’re
> going
> > > to go the CPU or GPU routes. which one is it going to be?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> —————————————————-
>
>
>


April 28, 2008 | 9:28 pm

For aesthetic reasons I need to work with sequences that contain 640 x 480 images. Quicktime movies of that size are impossible to work with, but storing such images and outputting them gives great results.

Quote: yair r. wrote on Mon, 28 April 2008 15:05
—————————————————-
> sounds usufull.
>
> every frame you store in matrixset resides in memory, uncompressed so it can
> get expensive, memory wise.
>
> i would offer you to consider "baking" you sequence to quicktime and work
> with that.
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:26 PM, qfwfqduo wrote:
>
> >
> > "what is a fractional frame?"
> >
> > I think Joshua is referring to v.sequence’s capability to output stored
> > image using a float rather than just an integer. This means you can have the
> > images fade into each other rather than jump from one to the next while
> > outputting. It’s very useful…
> >
> >
> >
> > Quote: yair r. wrote on Mon, 28 April 2008 08:36
> > —————————————————-
> > > what is a fractional frame?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:23 PM, joshua goldberg
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > not quite. one of the benefits of softVNS was the easy management of
> > > > fractional frames in v.sequence and v.buffers. you can buffer
> > matrices in a
> > > > jit.matrixset or a higher-dim jit.matrix than your source, but dealing
> > with
> > > > fractional frames requires something of a hat trick.
> > > >
> > > > the methods of dealing with this differ depending on whether you’re
> > going
> > > > to go the CPU or GPU routes. which one is it going to be?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > —————————————————-
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
—————————————————-


April 28, 2008 | 9:39 pm

well 640×480 is not that hi-res.
you should be able to store 100 frames, there is a simple calculation that i
fail to remember.
test and go.

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:28 AM, qfwfqduo wrote:

>
> For aesthetic reasons I need to work with sequences that contain 640 x 480
> images. Quicktime movies of that size are impossible to work with, but
> storing such images and outputting them gives great results.
>
>
>
> Quote: yair r. wrote on Mon, 28 April 2008 15:05
> —————————————————-
> > sounds usufull.
> >
> > every frame you store in matrixset resides in memory, uncompressed so it
> can
> > get expensive, memory wise.
> >
> > i would offer you to consider "baking" you sequence to quicktime and
> work
> > with that.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:26 PM, qfwfqduo >
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "what is a fractional frame?"
> > >
> > > I think Joshua is referring to v.sequence’s capability to output
> stored
> > > image using a float rather than just an integer. This means you can
> have the
> > > images fade into each other rather than jump from one to the next
> while
> > > outputting. It’s very useful…
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quote: yair r. wrote on Mon, 28 April 2008 08:36
> > > —————————————————-
> > > > what is a fractional frame?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:23 PM, joshua goldberg
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > not quite. one of the benefits of softVNS was the easy management
> of
> > > > > fractional frames in v.sequence and v.buffers. you can buffer
> > > matrices in a
> > > > > jit.matrixset or a higher-dim jit.matrix than your source, but
> dealing
> > > with
> > > > > fractional frames requires something of a hat trick.
> > > > >
> > > > > the methods of dealing with this differ depending on whether
> you’re
> > > going
> > > > > to go the CPU or GPU routes. which one is it going to be?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > —————————————————-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> —————————————————-
>
>
> jitter@cycling74.com [3]
> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/jitter [4]< http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/jitter>
>

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1. mailto:qfwfqduo@earthlink.net
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April 28, 2008 | 9:51 pm

also, working with qt movies higher then 640×480 is one of jitter’s strong
points.
consider using a less processor demanding codec such as animation and you
should have no problem there.

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:39 AM, yair reshef wrote:

> well 640×480 is not that hi-res.
> you should be able to store 100 frames, there is a simple calculation that
> i fail to remember.
> test and go.
>
>
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April 28, 2008 | 11:57 pm

This may be off-topic, but you can also have a look at "subtex.3d" in
the jitter-examples. Try typing that into a file browser search…

We did sneak one or two things into Jitter 1.7…

AB


April 29, 2008 | 1:22 am

If you want to do fractional frames you have to do frame blending.

I posted an example of a jit.qt.movie player with ‘fastpath’ UYVY textures and frame blending with a simple xfade shader a while back. The frame blending logic could easily be swapped to blend between the output of a matrixset, or, alternatively, a sampler3D based shader could be written to blend the frames for you from input of a 3D texture, which is probably the best solution and would be really really flexible

*hrm* :)


April 29, 2008 | 10:06 am

jit.slide might also be useful to get fractional frames, perhaps not the most elegant… but easier! ;)

j


April 29, 2008 | 4:52 pm

Andrew Benson skrev:
> This may be off-topic, but you can also have a look at "subtex.3d" in
> the jitter-examples. Try typing that into a file browser search…
>
> We did sneak one or two things into Jitter 1.7…
>
> AB
Alrighty, here’s my feature request then:

How about examples that we windows users don’t have to modify in order
to use/learn from?!?

Simply swap all
[jit.qt.grab] with "open" messages
for
[jit.qt.movie] with "read dozer.mov" messages.

- it would really help. As a smart guy on the Ableton Live forum said,
it doesn’t seem like anyone at Cycling74 uses windows computers…

cheers,
Andreas.

(PS: cool example!)


April 29, 2008 | 5:42 pm

On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Andreas Wetterberg wrote:
> Alrighty, here’s my feature request then:
>
> How about examples that we windows users don’t have to modify in
> order to use/learn from?!?

Yeah the jit.qt.grab vs.jit.dx.grab issues are a major nuisance. We’ll
try to make it better in future releases (perhaps just make
jit.qt.grab an alias to jit.dx.grab on windows).

In the meantime, you should be able to remove jit.qt.grab and make
this alias yourself in the object mappings files in the init folder.

Thanks,
Joshua


April 29, 2008 | 6:25 pm

If it helps at all, I’ve turned jit.qt.grab and jit.dx.grab into
abstractions on their respective platforms. That way i don’t have to
worry about bogus objects and the like when switching from one to the
other.

~s

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Joshua Kit Clayton wrote:
>
> On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Andreas Wetterberg wrote:
>
> > Alrighty, here’s my feature request then:
> >
> > How about examples that we windows users don’t have to modify in order to
> use/learn from?!?
> >
>
> Yeah the jit.qt.grab vs.jit.dx.grab issues are a major nuisance. We’ll try
> to make it better in future releases (perhaps just make jit.qt.grab an alias
> to jit.dx.grab on windows).
>
> In the meantime, you should be able to remove jit.qt.grab and make this
> alias yourself in the object mappings files in the init folder.
>
> Thanks,
> Joshua


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