Jamie McDonald

Hi i am building a patch which will allow me to change different peramaters within max msp while playing a game in a window. I have had a big success while using joysticks / joypads and a mouse. How ever some games i cannot use the joystick with so i need to use my keybourd to move.

I ovouisly used the Key object and the Keyup object to use the ascii numbers and a 'sel' object to make them into bangs. this works wonderfully except when i then click onto the game window to play it.

As soon as a click on a window which isn't max (in this case the current game) the key obejct stops sending data out. The 'Mousestate' and 'HI' objects still work and output numbers but not the 'KEY' object.

Is there another object you could suggest or a 3rd party external which will allow keybourd data to be sent into max when it isn't the primary application. Or is there any other way of simply sending keybourd data to max other than KEY or KEYUP. My keybourd does not appear under the HI menu...but i think i read somewhere thats cos of windows so i cannot use that.

Any suggestions will be greatfully recieved.

Hi i am building a patch which will allow me to change different peramaters within max msp while playing a game in a window. I have had a big success while using joysticks / joypads and a mouse. How ever some games i cannot use the joystick with so i need to use my keybourd to move. 

Any suggestions will be greatfully recieved.


key-keyup-object-problems

The key object included with iCE Tools (ice.key) will give you key events any time, any place.

The Max key objects are tied up with the standard event loop in Max and there are some assumptions made about when the ojbect "ought" to respon.

-- P (still on leave from the list, but occasionally lurking)

XP support for iCE is still a way off. I need to spend even less time reading the list and more time programming.

cheers anyway. Its a strange situatuin i know...its the first time that im using max as a background application...and a rare occosion that i really need to do it.

I may play around with GlovePie to see if i can emulate a different input from incoming keyboard presses.

Any other ideas...I'm determined to try and crack this.

As i said cheers anyway...your DSPaudio stuff looks great. I will look forward to seeing the PC versions.

I may play around with GlovePie to see if  i can emulate a different input from incoming keyboard presses.

As i said cheers anyway...your DSPaudio stuff looks great. I will look forward to seeing the PC versions.


> Is there another object you could suggest or a 3rd party external

> which will allow keybourd data to be sent into max when it isn't the

> primary application. Or is there any other way of simply sending

> keybourd data to max other than KEY or KEYUP. My keybourd does not

> appear under the HI menu...but i think i read somewhere thats cos of

This is OS specific, no way around, because Windows grabs all keyboards 

and passes them - on a Mac the keyboard remains visible to hi.

You would need a specific driver for your keyboard, to cut it off from 

Windows, but then you'd need a different keyboard to get your other 

tasks done, which would make me think its simpler to just require a 

It seems this is also an opportunity to port the game to Max...

Macca schrieb:
> Is there another object you could suggest or a 3rd party external
> which will allow keybourd data to be sent into max when it isn't the
> primary application. Or is there any other way of simply sending
> keybourd data to max other than KEY or KEYUP. My keybourd does not
> appear under the HI menu...but i think i read somewhere thats cos of
> windows so i cannot use that.

This is OS specific, no way around, because Windows grabs all keyboards 
and passes them - on a Mac the keyboard remains visible to hi.

You would need a specific driver for your keyboard, to cut it off from 
Windows, but then you'd need a different keyboard to get your other 
tasks done, which would make me think its simpler to just require a 
joystick...

It seems this is also an opportunity to port the game to Max...
(not very helpful I know... ;-)

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Key / keyup object problems