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key priority / vst bypassing

January 23, 2007 | 1:02 am

How can I raise the priority of ascii keypresses? I have a patch that bypasses a ton of vst effects unless certain keys are pressed. Right now it seems that even on my g5 which is plenty fast and running the patch at only 17% cpu, it still seems to have a large inconsistency of bypassing speeds, which I need to be very tight rythmically. Is this an error with the key timing? or could it be a vst thing?

I have made synths that are played with the ascii keys and those have functioned with great timing.. so Im really not sure if its the key or the vst bypass, but I tend to think its the key.



f.e
January 23, 2007 | 10:38 am

I don’t have the answer, but if it doesn’t work better, try to use the
dry/wet message instead of the bypass. It’ll not save some cpu but it’ll
react more, i guess, because i figure bypassing on & off somehow has to
reactivate the entire plugin…

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Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
> How can I raise the priority of ascii keypresses? I have a patch that bypasses a ton of vst effects unless certain keys are pressed. Right now it seems that even on my g5 which is plenty fast and running the patch at only 17% cpu, it still seems to have a large inconsistency of bypassing speeds, which I need to be very tight rythmically. Is this an error with the key timing? or could it be a vst thing?
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> I have made synths that are played with the ascii keys and those have functioned with great timing.. so Im really not sure if its the key or the vst bypass, but I tend to think its the key.
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January 23, 2007 | 11:03 am

don’t know either but for "some reason" i would second f.e.

on my vst’s i never use the bypass, always patch it so I can take the
vst out of the signal flow (but it still works)

must be this "true bypass" obsession with analog effects…

but this way the on/offs can be as precise as with, say, BOSS effects

best

kasper

>I don’t have the answer, but if it doesn’t work better, try to use
>the dry/wet message instead of the bypass. It’ll not save some cpu
>but it’ll react more, i guess, because i figure bypassing on & off
>somehow has to reactivate the entire plugin…
>
>f.e
>
>f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
>> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
>>>>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|
>
>
>Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
>>How can I raise the priority of ascii keypresses? I have a patch
>>that bypasses a ton of vst effects unless certain keys are pressed.
>>Right now it seems that even on my g5 which is plenty fast and
>>running the patch at only 17% cpu, it still seems to have a large
>>inconsistency of bypassing speeds, which I need to be very tight
>>rythmically. Is this an error with the key timing? or could it be
>>a vst thing?
>>
>> I have made synths that are played with the ascii keys and those
>>have functioned with great timing.. so Im really not sure if its
>>the key or the vst bypass, but I tend to think its the key.


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January 23, 2007 | 5:55 pm

Yeah, sounds good, Ill try that.. I wasn’t aware there was a dry/wet message.. or Ill try doing crossfades. I just used bypass cause it freed up cpu, but maybe thats the whole problem, maybe it cant handle the reactivation in good timing.


January 24, 2007 | 8:24 pm

Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
> I have made synths that are played with the ascii keys and those have
> functioned with great timing.. so Im really not sure if its the key
> or the vst bypass, but I tend to think its the key.

As far as I know the OS is polling the key in a less than satifactory
speed. My Comidikey works, but not as instrument for exact timing. You’d
better invest in a small Midi keyboard or one of those finger pads like
a M-Audio Trigger Finger, they are also velocity sensitive, a pretty
powerful part of expression…


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