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					<title><![CDATA[LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>avantronica</dc:creator>

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						<p>Anyone able to shed light on this</p>
<p>This is from novationmusic.com regarding their new LaunchPad &#8230;</p>
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• Flexible trigger platform for Max MSP and Reaktor programmers<br />
Programmers can utilise variable brightness and multi-colour LED states to their full advantage when designing new and innovative tools in Max MSP and Reaktor.<br />
**</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve ordered one anyway, but i&#8217;ll be an awful lot happier to learn that it sits nicely outside of ableton in my maxmsp environment (aot m4l) as a poor man&#8217;s &#8216;monome&#8217;</p>
<p>just keen for any &#8216;insider&#8217; views whilst i count down the days for arrival ? &#8230;..</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Sub Avian Flow</dc:creator>

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						<p>I&#8217;m happy to see something cheap that offers an array of buttons. However, I would like to see more expressive controllers. Why are all the new midicontrollers like the APC, Livid, and even the monome fail to feature expressive control options like velocity and aftertouch? I know the Monome has the tilt sensor, but in my experience using the Monome&#8217;s tilt sensor is crude to say it politely. Back when I was kid in the 80s, there were all sorts of controllers that used breath control and even resembled guitars. I would like to see a return in this direction for midi and possibly osc controllers. Enough of the push buttons already!</p>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>avantronica</dc:creator>

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						<p>i guess there are other controllers (from akai for example) which offer that expressivity &#8230; just not with them dazzling lights underneath !</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Randy Jones</dc:creator>

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						<p>@Sub Avian Flow: please stay tuned&#8230; <a href="http://madronalabs.com">http://madronalabs.com</a></p>
<p>Also check out the M-Audio Trigger Finger &#8212; it outputs continuous pressure for each of its pads, or so I&#8217;m told.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Sub Avian Flow</dc:creator>

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<p>Also check out the M-Audio Trigger Finger &#8212; it outputs continuous pressure for each of its pads, or so I&#8217;m told.</p>



<p>Alright! That is what I&#8217;m talking about. With the sophistication of modern computer music software, I think we should have more expressive controllers like this. Thanks for the heads up. I&#8217;ll have to check the trigger finger out. I had no idea that it outputs continuous pressure.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>nit</dc:creator>

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<p>Also check out the M-Audio Trigger Finger &#8212; it outputs continuous pressure for each of its pads, or so I&#8217;m told.</p>



<p>The AKAI MPD&#8217;s also can do this.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>david stevens</dc:creator>

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						<p>@Sub Avian Flow: please stay tuned&#8230; <a href="http://madronalabs.com">http://madronalabs.com</a></p>
<p>Oh, that is so very very lovely. I want one!</p>
<p>David</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>jln</dc:creator>

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						<p>Although I never tried one, the Manta certainly looks like an expressive controller (and truly beautiful imo). I would not mind owning one&#8230; <a href="http://www.snyderphonics.com/">http://www.snyderphonics.com/</a></p>
<p>Randy, the Madrona Soundplane A look really appealing as well. I will look forward to it.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Julien</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Anthony Palomba</dc:creator>

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<p>Wow, the Soundplane looks awesome! It looks like a great <br />
instrument to explore expressiveness. It could be an affordable<br />
alternative to the Continuum Fingerboard.<br />
<a href="http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Continuum/html/overview/Intro.html">http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Continuum/html/overview/Intro.html</a></p>
<p>I will definitely follow it closely&#8230;</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>seejayjames</dc:creator>

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						<p>There&#8217;s also the &#8220;Handrail&#8221;, though it&#8217;s a one-of-a-kind instrument and not for sale. Not sure if it used Max though.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greyworld.org/#handrail_/i1">http://www.greyworld.org/#handrail_/i1</a></p>
<p>These guys also do lots of stuff with Max/MSP, like &#8220;Musica&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greyworld.org/#musica_/i1">http://www.greyworld.org/#musica_/i1</a></p>
<p>Also check out &#8220;The Source&#8221;, I don&#8217;t think it used Max either, but it certainly could have. Regardless, it&#8217;s a massive project with literally millions of viewers, and looks stunning:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greyworld.org/#the_source_/i1">http://www.greyworld.org/#the_source_/i1</a></p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>coffeencigs</dc:creator>

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						<p>hey avantronica,<br />
as soon as you find out that it IS the poor mans mononome, please let me know</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>avantronica</dc:creator>

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						<p>following the release day excitement there&#8217;s plenty of info available now &#8211; it *has* legs outside of ableton live and the variable colour/intensity states are addressable by midi &#8230;<br />
something like this (see CDM)</p>
<p>Velocity 0 = Off <br />
Velocity 1 = light red <br />
Velocity 2 = medium red <br />
Velocity 3 = full red <br />
Velocity 16 = light green <br />
Velocity 32 = medium green <br />
Velocity 48 = full green <br />
Velocity 17 = light amber <br />
Velocity 34 = medium amber <br />
Velocity 55 = full amber <br />
Velocity 18 = light orange (Lighter > red / darker > amber) <br />
Velocity 35 = medium orange (Lighter > red / darker > amber) <br />
Velocity 31 = full orange (Lighter > red / darker > amber)</p>
<p>easy to exploit the pad array from max then, so i&#8217;m happy.</p>
<p>handy, but it ain&#8217;t a monome and it clearly isn&#8217;t intended to be</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: LaunchPad]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>coffeencigs</dc:creator>

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						<p>but it could be ! ?</p>
<p>i mean it sounds like that some of the &#8220;easy&#8221; monome patches are def. possible..</p>
<p>using a counter to bang the leds, and using notein and select to trigger a specific sample position</p>
<p>this would be a monome patch&#8230;</p>
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