Deru

(There was an error on upload and it got posted twice. Sorry.)

I'm looking for an object, or a way to build one, that acts just like metro but has better timing. I'm finding metro to be unreliable. I'm using it to trigger midi-on notes so the timing is important. I've seen clocks built using phasors~ and snapshots~ to build counters that go to 100, etc, but really all I need is an object that can output bangs every n-miliseconds. Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to build one?

like-metro-but-with-better-timing

I don't think it's possible with the current Max scheduler (or maybe using a

software vector size of 1 sample or such and "scheduler in audio interrupt" ? I

You should try phasor~ with edge~ (not snapshot~) or something like this (delta~

But for triggering MIDI out notes, it looks like too much (?)

> I'm looking for an object, or a way to build one, that acts just like metro

> but has better timing. I'm finding metro to be unreliable. I'm using it to

> trigger midi-on notes so the timing is important. I've seen clocks built

> using phasors~ and snapshots~ to build counters that go to 100, etc, but

> really all I need is an object that can output bangs every n-miliseconds. Is

> there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to build one?

I don't think it's possible with the current Max scheduler (or maybe using a
software vector size of 1 sample or such and "scheduler in audio interrupt" ? I
haven't tried it)

You should try phasor~ with edge~ (not snapshot~) or something like this (delta~
is also useful maybe)

ben :
> I'm looking for an object, or a way to build one, that acts just like metro
> but has better timing. I'm finding metro to be unreliable. I'm using it to
> trigger midi-on notes so the timing is important. I've seen clocks built
> using phasors~ and snapshots~ to build counters that go to 100, etc, but
> really all I need is an object that can output bangs every n-miliseconds. Is
> there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to build one?


> Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to 

Had you seen Eric Lyon present his paper at ICMC today, I doubt you 

Anyway, he's got a solution that is a few weeks from release. Very 

On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:00 PM, ben wrote:
> Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to  
> build one?

To paraphrase John Cage...
Had you seen Eric Lyon present his paper at ICMC today, I doubt you  
would have asked that question.

Anyway, he's got a solution that is a few weeks from release.  Very  
cool stuff.

-----
Nathan Wolek
nw@nathanwolek.com
http://www.nathanwolek.com


i'll check out phasor~ and edge~.
i'll see if i can make sense of it.

Collection of externals for Max/MSP or PD.

On Nov 10, 2006, at 11:22 PM, ben wrote:
> will it be a max external?

Im curious, any chance you could summarize?

On Nov 10, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Nathan Wolek wrote:

> On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:00 PM, ben wrote:

>> Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to 

> Had you seen Eric Lyon present his paper at ICMC today, I doubt you 

> Anyway, he's got a solution that is a few weeks from release. Very 

> On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:00 PM, ben wrote:
>> Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to  
>> build one?
>
> To paraphrase John Cage...
> Had you seen Eric Lyon present his paper at ICMC today, I doubt you  
> would have asked that question.
>
> Anyway, he's got a solution that is a few weeks from release.  Very  
> cool stuff.
>
> -----
> Nathan Wolek
> nw@nathanwolek.com
> http://www.nathanwolek.com
>


Here you can find the beta (OS X only) ...

http://eamusic.dartmouth.edu/~eric/MAX/SAMM/

> Im curious, any chance you could summarize?

> On Nov 10, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Nathan Wolek wrote:

> Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to build one?

> Had you seen Eric Lyon present his paper at ICMC today, I doubt you would

> Anyway, he's got a solution that is a few weeks from release. Very cool

2006/11/11, vade :
> Im curious, any chance you could summarize?
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> v a d e //
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> www.vade.info
> abstrakt.vade.info
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> On Nov 10, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Nathan Wolek wrote:
>
> On Nov 10, 2006, at 9:00 PM, ben wrote:
> Is there anything like that already, or is there an easy way to build one?
>
> To paraphrase John Cage...
> Had you seen Eric Lyon present his paper at ICMC today, I doubt you would
> have asked that question.
>
> Anyway, he's got a solution that is a few weeks from release.  Very cool
> stuff.
>
> -----
> Nathan Wolek
> nw@nathanwolek.com
> http://www.nathanwolek.com
>
>
>
>
>


On Nov 10, 2006, at 11:40 PM, vade wrote:

"A syetem of externals for Pd and Max/MSP is described that uses 

click triggers for sample-accurate timing. These externals 

interoperate and can also be used to control existing Pd and Max/MSP 

externals that are not sample-accurate through conversion from clicks 

Basically the sample trigger is a click analogous to what [train~] 

outputs instead of a bang. It's pretty sweet.

On Nov 10, 2006, at 11:40 PM, vade wrote:
> Im curious, any chance you could summarize?

the abstract...
"A syetem of externals for Pd and Max/MSP is described that uses  
click triggers for sample-accurate timing.  These externals  
interoperate and can also be used to control existing Pd and Max/MSP  
externals that are not sample-accurate through conversion from clicks  
to bangs."

Basically the sample trigger is a click analogous to what [train~]  
outputs instead of a bang. It's pretty sweet.

Like Metro, But With Better Timing?