Listpackage

May 11, 2006 at 1:45pm

Listpackage

This is indeed a wonderful bit of work.

I always roll my eyes when someone mentions a max feature they’ve found or
noticed and someone else replies “Oh, that’s been there since version x.x.x”

I’ve used Balsamic vinegar forever but only recently learned of the thick
expensive version that is fantastic on ice cream. It wouldn’t do me much
good to hear now that Cleopatra knew about when Pete was a pup. At least it
was in the vinegar section of my local Italian grocery.

My point? The help folder for listpackage and a lot of other useful things
that are new to me is deep in the cycling ’74 folder. I try to be aware of
what’s available and one of the things I do regularly is skim the help
folder. I always find something new or useful but I would have never run
across listpackage. I’m a packrat but I am pretty sure I didn’t download
and install myself so it must have come with max. It isn’t in the manual
either. Can we agree as a standard that help files and folder belong in
max-help?

I’ve used Balsamic vinegar forever but only recently learned of the thick
expensive version that is fantastic on ice cream. It wouldn’t do me much
good to hear now that Cleopatra knew about when Pete was a pup. At least it
was in the vinegar section of my local Italian grocery.

Cheers,
Gary Lee Nelson
TIMARA Department
Oberlin College
http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

#25922
May 11, 2006 at 3:43pm

On 11 May 2006, at 14:45, Gary Lee Nelson wrote:

>
> I’ve used Balsamic vinegar forever but only recently learned of the
> thick
> expensive version that is fantastic on ice cream.

Try mixing some into creme fraiche and serving it with barbecued
bananas. Hmmmmmmm.
(Especially in the UK today, where it’s stonking hot)

>
> My point? The help folder for listpackage and a lot of other
> useful things
> that are new to me is deep in the cycling ’74 folder.

etc. i second this – I only found this set of objects because one of
them was in a patch that someone posted earlier this week. The help
file briefly explains their functions, but nothing else (I suppose
this info might be in the docs somewhere, but i couldn’t find
anything). Mind you, to be fair to the guys at C74, there’s a _heck_
of a lot of new stuff in Max, perhaps they just didn’t get round to
this yet? And I haven’t read through the latest versions of the docs
yet :-)
>
> I’ve used Balsamic vinegar forever but only recently learned of the
> thick
> expensive version that is fantastic on ice cream.

Hm. Repetition teaches, as antiorp used to say.

I’m off to buy an ice cream…

David

#76913
May 11, 2006 at 4:51pm

Actually there is a lot about this in various java folders. Some nice
tutorial info that finally jarred me into looking at writing mxj.

I wasn’t complaining about Cycling ’74. I know what these guys are doing.

Cheers,
Gary Lee Nelson
TIMARA Department
Oberlin College
http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

#76914
May 13, 2006 at 11:52am

Sorry about the rep. I cut when I should have dragged. :-)
This reminds me of some software I wrote in APL as a front end to csound.
In addressing the issue of repetition in music, I made it more difficult to
repeat things than to vary.

Cheers,
Gary Lee Nelson
TIMARA Department
Oberlin College
http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

#76915
May 13, 2006 at 12:14pm

I know the details of this belong in java-dev but just a note to general Max
users. Lists are GREAT. I’ve used Peter Elsea’s Lobjects for years and
before that those of James McVartney that have been reincarnated as methods
of the zl object. Vexpr is also very useful along with the ones from
OpenDragon. My latest “discovery” is the mxj list package. They are a bit
hidden in the Cycling ’74 folder but they are well worth tracking down. The
package includes help files for most of the objects. The java folder also
includes a few other gems.

Best of all is that the list package is in java so you can see the source.
I was able to use that source to create a few more similar objects. I had
been staying away from java because I didn’t have time to get into Xcode or
back into CodeWarrior. My unix chops are so long gone that opening the
Terminal causes a memory freeze – mine. But mxj quickie works great!
You’ll have to learn java but it is no longer a monumental task to make your
own simple externals.

Cheers,
Gary Lee Nelson
TIMARA Department
Oberlin College
http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

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