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LIVE Ableton

jazzisfaction — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:29:31 +0000

I’m sorry.
I’m new here.
Does anybody have some experience how to synch ‘Live’ (from Ableton) and MaxMSP…I know how to change my preferences in Live but I don’t receive Midi messages from MaxMSP.
Could you help me with maybe the Tutorial-numbers which could help me or with some other advice.
Thanx so much

Peer

Re: LIVE Ableton

Venetian — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:04:07 +0000

try sending a midi message (such as noteout “from Max/MSP 1″ – click on the noteout object and choose that not for instance ASsynth or whatever it is).
In Live, get your usual Midi instrument up. That can accept “from Max/MSP 1″ or “all instruments”. It should make a note. Try opening up noteout help to make a basic note.

in fact, paste this into a new max patch, click on the box – change to max/msp 1 and hit the record button on your midi instr. in live:

#P window setfont “Sans Serif” 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 87 162 48 196617 loadbang;
#P user umenu 87 250 100 196647 1 64 266 1;
#X add “AU DLS Synth 1″;
#X add “Network Session 1″;
#X add “from MaxMSP 1″;
#X add “from MaxMSP 2″;
#P newex 87 216 46 196617 midiinfo;
#P message 87 192 14 196617 1;
#P newex 221 188 94 196617 makenote 100 300;
#P user kslider 221 91 54 0 36 48 31 12 0 128 128 128 128 128 128 255 255 255 0 0 0 0 0 0;
#P newex 221 237 43 196617 noteout;
#P connect 6 0 3 0;
#P connect 5 1 0 0;
#P connect 4 0 5 0;
#P connect 3 0 4 0;
#P connect 2 1 0 1;
#P connect 2 0 0 0;
#P connect 1 0 2 0;
#P window clipboard copycount 7;

any questions, post back. Hope it goes well.

Cheers,
Andrew

Re: LIVE Ableton

jazzisfaction — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:28:20 +0000

Hey Venetian,
that works good. I can use my VST in Live via Max now…BUT…I would like to use Live also as a slave referred to tempo.
So I would like to play a Max sequence in a certain tempo and let Max oblige Live to take the same tempo for playing Live loops simultaniously with the Max sequence…..so how can I send a TEMPO-message from Max to Live so that lives changes its Metronome to the same speed than Max?

Thanx so far for your help.

Greetz and wishes for a sunny day
Peer

Re: LIVE Ableton

Venetian — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:41:47 +0000

Have a look at this. It should work fine, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some drift after a while (maybe a minute?)
To get round that, you need to really lock them together (have a click sent from Live and adjust extra to take into account the drift. Not a problem though..)
Let me know how you get on

#P window setfont “Sans Serif” 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 253 98 27 196617 / 2.;
#P number 410 67 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 347 163 15 0;
#P toggle 347 63 15 0;
#P newex 347 102 58 196617 metro 600;
#P newex 152 195 36 196617 s bpm;
#P newex 171 304 46 196617 r output;
#P flonum 42 125 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 150 118 44 196617 r tatum;
#P number 100 281 77 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P flonum 150 142 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P window setfont “Sans Serif” 18.;
#P newex 97 326 77 196626 midiout;
#B color 4;
#P window setfont “Sans Serif” 9.;
#P newex 100 304 59 196617 xbendout 1;
#B color 14;
#P newex 100 254 46 196617 / 140.;
#P newex 100 224 59 196617 * 16384.;
#P newex 100 196 39 196617 – 60.;
#P newex 100 167 59 196617 * 30000.;
#P newex 100 142 42 196617 pow -1;
#P inlet 96 99 15 0;
#P window setfont “Helvetica Neue Black Condensed” 18.;
#P comment 60 60 130 320405522 MIDI TEMPO OUT;
#P window setfont “Sans Serif” 9.;
#P window linecount 2;
#P comment 179 335 100 196617 MIDIOUT set to “from Max/MSP 1″;
#P window linecount 6;
#P comment 311 291 100 196617 In Ableton , do MIDI map , click on tempo (120bpm) and then change the number in the box above xbendout here;
#P window linecount 1;
#P comment 374 125 100 196617 your metro stuff;
#P window linecount 3;
#P comment 253 119 46 196617 could also be four;
#P comment 453 59 80 196617 your tempo “(actually in msec per beat)”;
#P connect 24 0 7 0;
#P connect 23 0 24 0;
#P connect 23 0 20 1;
#P connect 20 0 22 0;
#P connect 21 0 20 0;
#P connect 12 0 13 0;
#P connect 18 0 13 0;
#P connect 7 0 8 0;
#P connect 9 0 10 0;
#P connect 10 0 11 0;
#P connect 11 0 15 0;
#P connect 15 0 12 0;
#P connect 6 0 17 0;
#P connect 16 0 14 0;
#P connect 8 0 19 0;
#P connect 8 0 9 0;
#P window clipboard copycount 25;

Re: LIVE Ableton

Axiom-Crux — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:49:17 +0000

if I were you I would sync max to ableton with live as the master signal, becuase it has a more stable midi clock.

or better yet make your patch into a pluggo and run it inside live.

Re: LIVE Ableton

jazzisfaction — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:10:14 +0000

Hey,
I’m so sorry..guess I’m a real amateur. But this doesn’t work.
Nothing happens.
You also have some receive messages without a send message (r output, r tatum) and send messages without receive messages (send bpm). I guess I’m not enough in the program to understand that. I thought that every r needs a s and visa versa.
Also the thing with the MIDI MAP in Live doesn’t work….honestly I’m a bit lost.
Sorry for causing all these problems.
Ah, a very important question: how did you get all these numbers like *16384 or *30000 ???

Thank you so much in any case for your help up till now.
If you ever come to Belgium I’ll invite you for a good belgium beer ;-)

Greetz
Peer

Re: LIVE Ableton

jazzisfaction — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:12:27 +0000

Thanx also for your help.
Where do I get more info about pluggo?
I looked in the tutorial and the reference and they don’t have any hits for that word.

Also I looked in the LIVE manual and maybe it would be a good idea to use Max as a ReWire slave or a ReWire master.
Does anybody has any experience how to do that?

Thanx a lot again
Peer

Re: LIVE Ableton

jazzisfaction — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:42:32 +0000

You think it’s better to purchase PLUGGO if I want to work with LIVE and Max?
Isn’t there another solution?

Can’t I ReWire the programs?

Thanx and Greetz
Peer

Re: LIVE Ableton

jazzisfaction — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:42:39 +0000

Oke…I read the ReWire Tutorial now….
the same problem than some others:
‘error starting audio’ is rewire mixer running?…..shit

Re: LIVE Ableton

Wetterberg — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:39:27 +0000

jazzisfaction skrev:
> You think it’s better to purchase PLUGGO if I want to work with LIVE and Max?
>
They never said that – from MaxMSP you can build Pluggo devices that can
be loaded into your DAW and distributed over the internet, whatever. You
don’t need to own the readymade pluggo collection to do this, as it will
work as long as you have the pluggo runtime installed.

Andreas.

Re: LIVE Ableton

Venetian — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:41:25 +0000

Hi.

Ignore the r tatum and r output etc.

Here’s a check list:

1. In the max patch, check that below x-bendout 1, midiout is set to “from Max/MSP 1″ (by cliking on it)

2. In Live, do apple-M (Midi Map) and click on the tempo, 120, button. That sort of highlights.

3. Now go back to max, and send a number through x-bendout, theres a box above it, so scroll up with that.

4. In Live, you should see, 1/PB, over the tempo. If not it hasn’t worked.

5. Now try sending the value you use for metro through the /2 box and into the chain. That should alter the value in Live.

Explanation
The BPM is beats per minutes. Metro uses msec per beat.
So we need to do 1 / x to get beats per msec. Then times by 1000 to get beats per second, and another 30 or 60 to get it per minute. Okay, not a great explanation, but that’s kind of why.

Then you do (-60) because Ableton’s tempo function allows you to alter between 60 and 200 bpm.
Then 16383 / x because xbendout has that many divisions. So we’re sending say 100bpm -> 40 -> 16383 / 40 -> Live
Then Live will match our 100 bpm.
It does work. Check out “b-keeper” on youtube

Keep me posted and good luck.
Andrew

Re: LIVE Ableton

jazzisfaction — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:22:34 +0000

Hey,
thanx so much to all of you for your help.

So what do i want to do?
I made a patch in Max with a random 9tone-scale
melody and I want to play it together with some
loops which I run in LIVE (Ableton).
So the random melody from Max should play in the
same tempo than my Live loops.
I first run the melody and after a while I switch on
That’s the idea.
I just don’t know how to synch the tempo of my patch
here is my patch which I would like to synch with Live / Ableton:

#P window setfont “Sans Serif” 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 226 138 82 196617 tempo 120 1 16;
#P toggle 212 99 15 0;
#P window linecount 2;
#P message 216 367 13 196617 52;
#P message 193 367 13 196617 49;
#P message 170 367 13 196617 48;
#P message 148 367 13 196617 47;
#P message 123 367 13 196617 46;
#P message 100 367 13 196617 45;
#P message 75 364 13 196617 44;
#P message 42 367 13 196617 42;
#P message 14 367 13 196617 41;
#P number 313 226 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 228 172 15 0;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 389 567 60 196617 noteout a 1;
#P newex 376 520 94 196617 makenote 127 120;
#P window linecount 2;
#P hidden message 241 458 13 196617 89;
#P message 215 458 13 196617 88;
#P message 188 458 13 196617 85;
#P message 163 458 13 196617 84;
#P message 140 458 13 196617 83;
#P message 113 458 13 196617 82;
#P message 88 458 13 196617 81;
#P message 64 458 13 196617 80;
#P message 38 458 13 196617 78;
#P message 12 458 13 196617 77;
#P message 212 424 13 196617 76;
#P message 189 424 13 196617 73;
#P message 166 424 13 196617 72;
#P message 139 424 13 196617 71;
#P message 117 424 13 196617 70;
#P message 94 424 13 196617 69;
#P message 67 424 13 196617 68;
#P message 40 424 13 196617 66;
#P message 14 424 13 196617 65;
#P message 225 393 13 196617 64;
#P message 201 393 13 196617 61;
#P message 178 393 13 196617 60;
#P message 154 393 13 196617 59;
#P message 129 393 13 196617 58;
#P message 100 393 13 196617 57;
#P message 75 393 13 196617 56;
#P message 41 393 13 196617 54;
#P message 14 393 13 196617 53;
#P window linecount 5;
#P newex 261 271 134 196617 select 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 345 195 58 196617 random 37;
#P hidden connect 42 0 30 0;
#P hidden connect 41 0 30 0;
#P hidden connect 40 0 30 0;
#P hidden connect 39 0 30 0;
#P hidden connect 38 0 30 0;
#P hidden connect 37 0 30 0;
#P hidden connect 36 0 30 0;
#P hidden connect 35 0 30 0;
#P hidden fasten 34 0 30 0 374 520;
#P hidden fasten 29 0 30 0 246 490 381 490;
#P hidden fasten 28 0 30 0 220 489 381 489;
#P hidden fasten 27 0 30 0 193 492 381 492;
#P hidden fasten 26 0 30 0 168 491 381 491;
#P hidden fasten 25 0 30 0 145 494 381 494;
#P hidden fasten 24 0 30 0 118 494 381 494;
#P hidden fasten 23 0 30 0 93 490 381 490;
#P hidden fasten 22 0 30 0 69 492 381 492;
#P hidden fasten 21 0 30 0 43 493 381 493;
#P hidden fasten 20 0 30 0 17 492 381 492;
#P hidden fasten 19 0 30 0 217 495 381 495;
#P hidden fasten 18 0 30 0 194 491 381 491;
#P hidden fasten 17 0 30 0 171 493 381 493;
#P hidden fasten 16 0 30 0 144 494 381 494;
#P hidden fasten 15 0 30 0 122 494 381 494;
#P hidden fasten 14 0 30 0 99 496 381 496;
#P hidden fasten 13 0 30 0 72 494 381 494;
#P hidden fasten 12 0 30 0 45 495 381 495;
#P hidden fasten 11 0 30 0 19 493 381 493;
#P hidden fasten 10 0 30 0 230 494 381 494;
#P hidden fasten 9 0 30 0 206 494 381 494;
#P hidden fasten 8 0 30 0 183 496 381 496;
#P hidden fasten 7 0 30 0 159 494 381 494;
#P hidden fasten 6 0 30 0 134 493 381 493;
#P hidden fasten 5 0 30 0 105 495 381 495;
#P hidden fasten 4 0 30 0 80 493 381 493;
#P hidden fasten 3 0 30 0 46 493 381 493;
#P hidden fasten 2 0 30 0 19 494 381 494;
#P fasten 30 0 31 0 381 551 394 551;
#P fasten 30 1 31 1 465 551 419 551;
#P connect 44 0 32 0;
#P connect 43 0 44 0;
#P connect 32 0 0 0;
#P fasten 0 0 33 0 350 219 318 219;
#P fasten 33 0 1 0 262 268;
#P hidden fasten 1 27 29 0 347 436 246 436;
#P hidden fasten 1 8 10 0 290 438 230 438;
#P hidden connect 1 37 42 0;
#P hidden fasten 1 26 28 0 344 437 220 437;
#P hidden fasten 1 17 19 0 317 436 217 436;
#P hidden fasten 1 7 9 0 287 437 206 437;
#P hidden connect 1 36 41 0;
#P hidden fasten 1 16 18 0 314 436 194 436;
#P hidden fasten 1 25 27 0 341 435 193 435;
#P hidden fasten 1 6 8 0 284 436 183 436;
#P hidden connect 1 35 40 0;
#P hidden fasten 1 15 17 0 467 439 171 439;
#P hidden fasten 1 24 26 0 338 437 168 437;
#P hidden fasten 1 5 7 0 281 436 159 436;
#P hidden connect 1 34 39 0;
#P hidden fasten 1 23 25 0 335 438 145 438;
#P hidden fasten 1 14 16 0 453 438 144 438;
#P hidden fasten 1 4 6 0 278 437 134 437;
#P hidden connect 1 33 38 0;
#P hidden fasten 1 13 15 0 305 438 122 438;
#P hidden fasten 1 22 24 0 332 436 118 436;
#P hidden fasten 1 3 5 0 275 437 132 437 105 437;
#P hidden connect 1 32 37 0;
#P hidden fasten 1 12 14 0 302 438 99 438;
#P hidden fasten 1 21 23 0 329 438 93 438;
#P hidden fasten 1 2 4 0 272 436 80 436;
#P hidden connect 1 31 36 0;
#P hidden fasten 1 11 13 0 299 438 72 438;
#P hidden fasten 1 20 22 0 326 436 69 436;
#P hidden connect 1 29 35 0;
#P hidden fasten 1 1 3 0 269 436 46 436;
#P hidden fasten 1 10 12 0 296 438 45 438;
#P hidden fasten 1 19 21 0 323 438 43 438;
#P hidden fasten 1 9 11 0 293 438 19 438;
#P hidden fasten 1 0 2 0 266 436 19 436;
#P hidden connect 1 28 34 0;
#P hidden fasten 1 18 20 0 320 437 17 437;
#P window clipboard copycount 45;

Re: LIVE Ableton

jazzisfaction — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:33:00 +0000

Hey Andrew,
u are a genius!!!!
That works perfect!
But now live is the slave and max the master.
Is it also possible that max is the slave and takes over the tempo from live?

Hope I can ever help u out in my life ;-)

Greetz
Peer

Re: LIVE Ableton

Venetian — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:34:11 +0000

yes.

To do this, you need to send a click track from Live. So make a track with evenly spaced clicks on some midi note, say 60.

Send them out “to Max/MSP 1″

In Max, make a notein, go into stripnote (to avoid the note off message), then out to a bang.

Put that into timer but both inputs. The int out should be the time between your clicks. You may want to double it, halve it etc so that it’s right for metro.

Also, did you find you got some drift on what you were doing or was it okay?

Re: LIVE Ableton

jazzisfaction — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:36:57 +0000

Hey guys,
I don’t know if anybody is interested (cause I guess it’s quite amateuristic what I did), but I finally found what I wanted.
It’s a random 9-tone-scale melody (over 5 octaves), switching also randomly between quarter-,eigths-and sixteenth-notes.
all this goes simultan with the tempo in LIVE and I can add some loops to the random melody running from LIVE.
Of course the whole patch only works together with a click-track made on LIVE and some MIDI-controllers.
Thanx so much to VENETIAN who helped me a lot and to all the others.
Have a great week
Peer
#P window setfont “Sans Serif” 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 522 329 58 196617 select 109;
#P newex 522 291 40 196617 key;
#P user gswitch2 628 304 39 32 1 0;
#P newex 566 138 61 196617 delay 4000;
#P newex 531 176 45 196617 onebang;
#P newex 657 108 82 196617 select 12 14 43;
#P toggle 531 219 15 0;
#P button 834 435 15 0;
#P button 723 435 15 0;
#P button 557 435 15 0;
#P toggle 781 497 15 0;
#P toggle 682 497 15 0;
#P newex 655 460 55 196617 delay 460;
#P newex 770 460 55 196617 delay 460;
#P newex 557 460 55 196617 delay 460;
#P toggle 619 497 15 0;
#P button 796 435 15 0;
#P button 674 435 15 0;
#P button 619 435 15 0;
#P newex 781 517 37 196617 metro;
#P newex 682 517 37 196617 metro;
#P newex 619 517 37 196617 metro;
#P message 619 460 26 196617 460;
#P message 834 460 26 196617 115;
#P message 723 459 26 196617 230;
#P newex 655 399 231 196617 select 0 1 2;
#P number 655 369 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 655 339 52 196617 random 3;
#P newex 655 282 61 196617 metro 460.;
#P newex 657 247 29 196617 * 2.;
#P flonum 657 216 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 657 146 15 0;
#P newex 657 189 35 196617 timer;
#P newex 657 69 54 196617 stripnote;
#P newex 657 33 54 196617 notein a 1;
#P button 498 496 15 0;
#P window linecount 2;
#P message 233 408 15 196617 52;
#P message 210 408 13 196617 49;
#P message 187 408 13 196617 48;
#P message 165 408 13 196617 47;
#P message 140 408 13 196617 46;
#P message 117 408 13 196617 45;
#P message 92 405 13 196617 44;
#P message 59 408 13 196617 42;
#P message 32 405 13 196617 41;
#P number 40 229 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 104 643 60 196617 noteout a 1;
#P newex 94 566 94 196617 makenote 127 400;
#P window linecount 2;
#P hidden message 256 499 13 196617 89;
#P message 232 499 13 196617 88;
#P message 205 499 13 196617 85;
#P message 180 499 13 196617 84;
#P message 157 499 13 196617 83;
#P message 130 499 13 196617 82;
#P message 105 499 13 196617 81;
#P message 81 499 13 196617 80;
#P message 55 499 13 196617 78;
#P message 31 499 13 196617 77;
#P message 229 465 13 196617 76;
#P message 206 465 13 196617 73;
#P message 183 465 13 196617 72;
#P message 156 465 13 196617 71;
#P message 134 465 13 196617 70;
#P message 111 465 13 196617 69;
#P message 84 465 13 196617 68;
#P message 57 465 13 196617 66;
#P message 31 465 13 196617 65;
#P message 242 434 13 196617 64;
#P message 218 434 13 196617 61;
#P message 195 434 13 196617 60;
#P message 171 434 13 196617 59;
#P message 146 434 13 196617 58;
#P message 117 434 13 196617 57;
#P message 92 434 13 196617 56;
#P message 58 434 13 196617 54;
#P message 31 434 13 196617 53;
#P window linecount 5;
#P newex 40 271 133 196617 select 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 89 194 58 196617 random 37;
#P window linecount 7;
#P comment 904 52 84 196617 Choose: Options- DSP Status – Core Audio / X-Station Audio (which is my driver Driver/interface);
#P window linecount 2;
#P comment 718 31 100 196617 All Devices By Channel;
#P window linecount 4;
#P comment 910 150 100 196617 Make A midi Track in Live with a click on it and choose ‘Midi to’ – ‘to Max/MSP’;
#P window linecount 17;
#P comment 905 225 100 196617 VERY IMPORTANT: Delete the Plug-In in Ableton with which you made the click…but only the Plug-In , not the recorded Midi-track…NOW you can choose ‘Midi to’ – ‘To Max/Msp’….if you don’t delete the Plug-In instrument , the track will only be able to send out an Audio-Signal and you can’t choose: ‘To Max/MSP’;
#P window linecount 3;
#P comment 338 615 738 196617 my Tempo on Live is 130 BPM which is the same as 460 for my metro-object…I want to switch randomly between quarter , eighth an sixteenth notes…so I take the biggest unit (the quarter notes) to trigger a random choice between playing quarter-notes (metro gets 460 as message) , eight-notes (metro gets 230) and sixteenth-notes (metro gets 115);
#P comment 8 42 260 196617 basically I have a 9-tone scale: I take the triad of F as a mirror-axis and like this I get the notes of the E Triad and the Gb Triad which gives me a 9-tone scale;
#P window linecount 2;
#P comment 502 370 100 196617 mute-function with the ‘M’ key;
#P window linecount 5;
#P comment 289 34 216 196617 in LIVE: I start the horizontal track 1 (with my ‘click’) with the ‘play’ button in the master-field which gets the Midi-link of a low C (No.12) on my synth….I stop my random track with pushing a low D (No.14) on my synth;
#P window linecount 3;
#P comment 743 86 100 196617 the click is recorded on the note of G (No.43);
#P connect 79 0 63 0;
#P fasten 61 2 70 0 806 431 801 431;
#P fasten 61 2 79 0 806 431 839 431;
#P fasten 63 0 39 2 839 549 183 549;
#P fasten 63 0 76 0 839 483 786 483;
#P fasten 63 0 67 1 839 500 813 500;
#P connect 76 0 67 0;
#P fasten 73 0 76 0 775 487 786 487;
#P fasten 70 0 73 0 801 456 775 456;
#P connect 78 0 62 0;
#P fasten 61 1 69 0 733 425 679 425;
#P fasten 61 1 78 0 733 431 728 431;
#P fasten 62 0 39 2 728 549 183 549;
#P fasten 62 0 75 0 728 488 687 488;
#P fasten 62 0 66 1 728 511 714 511;
#P fasten 57 0 58 1 662 273 711 273;
#P connect 52 1 53 1;
#P connect 75 0 66 0;
#P fasten 74 0 75 0 660 488 687 488;
#P fasten 55 0 82 0 662 169 536 169;
#P connect 55 0 54 0;
#P fasten 55 0 54 1 662 181 687 181;
#P connect 58 0 84 1;
#P connect 56 0 57 0;
#P connect 54 0 56 0;
#P fasten 81 2 55 0 710 143 662 143;
#P connect 53 0 81 0;
#P connect 52 0 53 0;
#P fasten 69 0 74 0 679 452 660 452;
#P connect 60 0 61 0;
#P connect 59 0 60 0;
#P connect 84 1 59 0;
#P fasten 80 0 58 0 536 271 660 271;
#P fasten 64 0 39 2 624 484 575 484 575 540 191 540 183 540;
#P connect 64 0 71 0;
#P fasten 64 0 65 1 624 485 651 485;
#P fasten 86 0 84 0 527 366 594 366 594 294 633 294;
#P connect 71 0 65 0;
#P fasten 72 0 71 0 562 485 624 485;
#P connect 68 0 64 0;
#P fasten 61 0 77 0 660 423 562 423;
#P fasten 61 0 68 0 660 428 624 428;
#P connect 83 0 82 1;
#P fasten 81 0 83 0 662 132 571 132;
#P connect 77 0 72 0;
#P fasten 81 1 80 0 686 132 524 132 524 203 536 203;
#P connect 82 0 80 0;
#P connect 85 0 86 0;
#P fasten 67 0 51 0 786 575 529 575 529 482 503 482;
#P fasten 66 0 51 0 687 574 527 574 527 481 503 481;
#P fasten 65 0 51 0 624 574 528 574 528 480 503 480;
#P hidden fasten 10 27 38 0 126 436 261 436;
#P hidden fasten 10 8 19 0 69 438 247 438;
#P hidden connect 10 36 50 0;
#P hidden fasten 10 26 37 0 123 437 237 437;
#P hidden fasten 10 17 28 0 96 436 234 436;
#P hidden fasten 10 7 18 0 66 437 223 437;
#P hidden connect 10 35 49 0;
#P hidden fasten 10 16 27 0 93 436 211 436;
#P hidden fasten 10 25 36 0 120 435 210 435;
#P hidden fasten 10 6 17 0 63 436 200 436;
#P hidden connect 10 34 48 0;
#P hidden fasten 10 15 26 0 467 439 188 439;
#P hidden fasten 10 24 35 0 117 437 185 437;
#P hidden fasten 10 5 16 0 60 436 176 436;
#P hidden connect 10 33 47 0;
#P hidden fasten 10 23 34 0 114 438 162 438;
#P hidden fasten 10 14 25 0 453 438 161 438;
#P hidden fasten 10 4 15 0 57 437 151 437;
#P hidden connect 10 32 46 0;
#P hidden fasten 10 13 24 0 84 438 139 438;
#P hidden fasten 10 22 33 0 111 436 135 436;
#P fasten 39 1 40 1 183 609 183 620 134 620;
#P hidden fasten 10 3 14 0 54 437 132 437 122 437;
#P hidden connect 10 31 45 0;
#P hidden fasten 10 12 23 0 81 438 116 438;
#P hidden fasten 10 21 32 0 108 438 110 438;
#P fasten 39 0 40 0 99 616 109 616;
#P hidden connect 42 0 39 0;
#P hidden fasten 11 0 39 0 36 494 99 494;
#P hidden fasten 12 0 39 0 63 493 99 493;
#P hidden fasten 13 0 39 0 97 493 99 493;
#P hidden fasten 14 0 39 0 122 495 99 495;
#P hidden fasten 15 0 39 0 151 493 99 493;
#P hidden fasten 16 0 39 0 176 494 99 494;
#P hidden fasten 17 0 39 0 200 496 99 496;
#P hidden fasten 18 0 39 0 223 494 99 494;
#P hidden fasten 19 0 39 0 247 494 99 494;
#P hidden fasten 20 0 39 0 36 493 99 493;
#P hidden fasten 21 0 39 0 62 495 99 495;
#P hidden fasten 22 0 39 0 89 494 99 494;
#P hidden fasten 23 0 39 0 116 496 99 496;
#P hidden fasten 24 0 39 0 139 494 99 494;
#P hidden fasten 25 0 39 0 161 494 99 494;
#P hidden fasten 26 0 39 0 188 493 99 493;
#P hidden fasten 27 0 39 0 211 491 99 491;
#P hidden fasten 28 0 39 0 234 495 99 495;
#P hidden fasten 29 0 39 0 36 492 99 492;
#P hidden fasten 30 0 39 0 60 493 99 493;
#P hidden fasten 31 0 39 0 86 492 99 492;
#P hidden fasten 32 0 39 0 110 490 99 490;
#P hidden fasten 33 0 39 0 135 494 99 494;
#P hidden fasten 34 0 39 0 162 494 99 494;
#P hidden fasten 35 0 39 0 185 491 99 491;
#P hidden fasten 36 0 39 0 210 492 99 492;
#P hidden fasten 37 0 39 0 237 489 99 489;
#P hidden fasten 38 0 39 0 261 490 99 490;
#P hidden connect 43 0 39 0;
#P hidden connect 44 0 39 0;
#P hidden connect 45 0 39 0;
#P hidden connect 46 0 39 0;
#P hidden connect 47 0 39 0;
#P hidden connect 48 0 39 0;
#P hidden connect 49 0 39 0;
#P hidden connect 50 0 39 0;
#P hidden fasten 10 2 13 0 51 436 97 436;
#P hidden connect 10 30 44 0;
#P fasten 51 0 9 0 503 522 477 522 477 133 94 133;
#P hidden fasten 10 11 22 0 78 438 89 438;
#P hidden fasten 10 20 31 0 105 436 86 436;
#P hidden connect 10 29 43 0;
#P hidden fasten 10 1 12 0 48 436 63 436;
#P hidden fasten 10 10 21 0 75 438 62 438;
#P hidden fasten 10 19 30 0 102 438 60 438;
#P connect 41 0 10 0;
#P fasten 9 0 41 0 94 219 45 219;
#P hidden connect 10 28 42 0;
#P hidden fasten 10 18 29 0 99 437 36 437;
#P hidden fasten 10 9 20 0 72 438 36 438;
#P hidden fasten 10 0 11 0 45 436 36 436;
#P window clipboard copycount 87;

Re: LIVE Ableton

jazzisfaction — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:50:56 +0000

Hey Venetian,
Thanx again for all your help.
I didn’t have any drift on what I did.
The things work exactly like I want it now.
But I guess it’s still a rather complicated patch and guys like you could solve the problem much easier and with a better patch.
Anyways…I’m happy :-)

Talk to you soon
Greetz
Peer

Re: LIVE Ableton

Stefan Tiedje — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:29:02 +0000

jazzisfaction schrieb:
> Hey Venetian, Thanx again for all your help. I didn’t have any drift
> on what I did. The things work exactly like I want it now. But I
> guess it’s still a rather complicated patch and guys like you could
> solve the problem much easier and with a better patch. Anyways…I’m
> happy :-)

Certainly you could replace the sel->tons of message boxes->makenote
with a single coll…

#P button 427 197 15 0;
#P window setfont “Sans Serif” 9.;
#P number 427 247 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 427 300 94 196617 makenote 127 400;
#P newex 427 220 58 196617 random 37;
#N coll ;
#T flags 1 0;
#T 0 53;
#T 1 54;
#T 2 56;
#T 3 57;
#T 4 58;
#T 5 59;
#T 6 60;
#T 7 61;
#T 8 64;
#T 9 65;
#T 10 66;
#T 11 68;
#T 12 69;
#T 13 70;
#T 14 71;
#T 15 72;
#T 16 73;
#T 17 76;
#T 18 77;
#T 19 78;
#T 20 80;
#T 21 81;
#T 22 82;
#T 23 83;
#T 24 84;
#T 25 85;
#T 26 88;
#T 27 89;
#T 28 41;
#T 29 42;
#T 30 44;
#T 31 45;
#T 32 46;
#T 33 47;
#T 34 48;
#T 35 49;
#T 36 52;
#P newobj 427 271 50 196617 coll;
#P connect 4 0 1 0;
#P connect 0 0 2 0;
#P connect 3 0 0 0;
#P connect 1 0 3 0;
#P window clipboard copycount 5;

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