Cycling 74 » Topic: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/feed Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:31:00 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.2.4 http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-24479 <![CDATA[live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-24479 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:18:47 +0000 mador@gmx.net hi all,
i’ve been doing live drawing performances with improvising musicians for a while now, using a wacom tablet and corel painter – i choose brushes and color on the screen of my powerbook, and i paint the stage with a projector thats hooked up to the video out. it’s a solid setup but using painter is a bit of a bastardisation.

now i wanna move on to using a real live performance rig. ideally i’d like to be able to change color/brushes with a midi keyboard.

also i imagine it’d be cool to have the line fade with time, so i can keep drawing over the same image without too much visual build-up.

my question: is jitter a viable option for achieving this?

my concerns are whether i can aproximate the smoothness of the painter brushes, and whether something like this is achievable with a reasonable amount of effort.

i’m a newbie to jitter but i have some experience in c++/openGL/mel script so i’m not scared of getting my hands dirty.

any advice?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70879 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70879 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:35:13 +0000 nesa do it!

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70880 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70880 Sat, 18 Feb 2006 01:09:00 +0000 Jean-Francois Charles

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70881 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70881 Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:56:50 +0000 mador@gmx.net thanks guys!

nesa, i couldn’t find the patch jean francois mentionned in the archives. do you still have it?

i found a very basic wacom painting program at http://itp.nyu.edu/~rd64/lipp/

but i guess i’ll try to build a patch from scratch so i know what’s happening.

on to the tutorials!

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70882 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70882 Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:27:50 +0000 Jean-Francois Charles

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70883 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70883 Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:18:56 +0000 lists@lowfrequency.or i’ve seen someone do exactly what you’re talking about, with a Wacom
and live painting in some sort of OpenGL program, with colored lines
fading and swirling. It also reminded me (a lot) of Golan Levin’s
Yellowtail (http://www.flong.com/yellowtail/) I saw this guy play at
Subtonic Lounge in New York city sometime a couple of weeks ago, but I
couldn’t find out his name. Sorry to be vague, but if you find out who
it was I’d like to know too, it was an excellent performance.

-evan

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70884 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70884 Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:56:07 +0000 mador@gmx.net jean francois:
thanks, don’t know why i couldn’t find nesa’s patch before, got it now. great stuff to start off with.

evan:
thanx for the yellowtail link, that’s inspiring. and i’ll look around to find out about who it was at the subtonic lounge gig.

i also find that stuff amazing:
http://www.ni9e.com/graffiti_analysis.php
especially cos it doesn’t rely on a wacom for input, which i find kinda limiting if ur used to working with traditional media.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70885 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70885 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:16:27 +0000 Joshua Kit Clayton On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:18 PM, mador wrote:

> my concerns are whether i can aproximate the smoothness of the
> painter brushes, and whether something like this is achievable with
> a reasonable amount of effort.

See jsui_splinestuff-example.pat for one way to achieve this with
Sketch, using the brush textures. Could easily be translated to a
jit.gl.sketch implementation.

-Joshua

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70886 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70886 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:16:22 +0000 dan The guy doing OpenGL drawing at SubTonic was Joshue Ott. It’s a
program called superDraw that he’s been developing in Processing
(http://www.intervalstudios.com/superdraw/index.html). I was very
impressed by his performance as well.

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70887 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70887 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:34:00 +0000 Peter Nyboer wait a minnit….I believe “Super Draw” was one of the original
macintosh paint programs. I think it was Super because it did bitmap
AND vector in the same program – not like macpaint or macdraw which
were 2 different apps.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70888 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70888 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:12:14 +0000 dan well, Josh’s program is superDraw, not Super Draw. ;) :p

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70889 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70889 Tue, 21 Feb 2006 05:35:59 +0000 williamshome for people who are interested in wacom painting,
here is a link to a chinese-brush painting program

http://www.cs.ust.hk/~cpegnel/VCB/

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70890 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70890 Wed, 22 Feb 2006 08:39:35 +0000 mador@gmx.net thanks everyone.

i’ve had a look at processing – man thats really cool stuff. actually i’m leaning towards using it instead of jitter.
i’ve implemented a quick prototype of what i need, still minus the midi capabilities. but that shouldn’t be much of a problem either.

it’s looking like the way to go for me, especially cos it’s open source.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70891 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70891 Tue, 02 May 2006 22:06:52 +0000 crikeymiles The web version of superDraw is incredible!

Does Joshue offer a download, or does you have to familiarise yourself with processing first?

Magic.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70892 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70892 Fri, 19 May 2006 02:53:49 +0000 dan No, Josh hasn’t put out a downloadable app as yet. Let him know
you’re interested! It’s his first time writing a visuals app and he’s
uncertain how many people would like it.

dan

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70893 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70893 Fri, 19 May 2006 03:16:44 +0000 vade really, build it yourself – Max is fun, pretty forgiving and a lot to
explore

. it wasnt that hard of a patch to make if you think slowly through
the methodology. Josh’s superDraw does a lot, but to do basic drawing
within max 2d to 3d – use the wacom object (search for it), and use
openGl screen2world functionality within javascript

it can be done – ive got a basic implementation working on my end –
and its fun.

v a d e //

http://www.vade.info
abstrakt.vade.info

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70894 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70894 Fri, 19 May 2006 03:47:34 +0000 Gregory Taylor On May 18, 2006, at 10:16 PM, vade wrote:

> really, build it yourself – Max is fun, pretty forgiving and a lot
> to explore

And, like the space program of old, you’ll also likely
get tang, teflon, and space food sticks in addition to
those bootprints on the lunar surface.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70895 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70895 Wed, 09 May 2007 19:09:11 +0000 yair reshef hi nesa!
still have the brushes for your wonderful paint program?
the original link is offline…

http://tinyurl.com/2ua6ok

On 5/19/06, Gregory Taylor wrote:
>
> On May 18, 2006, at 10:16 PM, vade wrote:
>
> > really, build it yourself – Max is fun, pretty forgiving and a lot
> > to explore
>
> And, like the space program of old, you’ll also likely
> get tang, teflon, and space food sticks in addition to
> those bootprints on the lunar surface.
>

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70896 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70896 Wed, 09 May 2007 19:28:10 +0000 mador@gmx.net hello,

the program i was starting to program when i opened this thread has come some way since then – check http://www.tagtool.org

the current version is written in C#. There’s also network capabilty so you can have several people draw together over tcp/ip.

also speaks midi and (soon) osc, so you could hook it up with max/jitter i suppose.

it’s actually an open source project so if anyone is interested in abusing it for their purposes, go ahead… although we still need to work on documentation to make things more accessible. we’ll be posting progress on http://www.tagtool.org/developer.

all the best,
markus

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70897 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70897 Wed, 09 May 2007 19:43:40 +0000 yair reshef mador, this looks very verygood. u wrote a miniJitter. respect

On 5/9/07, mador wrote:
>
> hello,
>
> the program i was starting to program when i opened this thread has come some way since then – check http://www.tagtool.org
>
> the current version is written in C#. There’s also network capabilty so you can have several people draw together over tcp/ip.
>
> also speaks midi and (soon) osc, so you could hook it up with max/jitter i suppose.
>
> it’s actually an open source project so if anyone is interested in abusing it for their purposes, go ahead… although we still need to work on documentation to make things more accessible. we’ll be posting progress on http://www.tagtool.org/developer.
>
> all the best,
> markus
>
>
>

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70898 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70898 Wed, 09 May 2007 19:53:33 +0000 mador@gmx.net thx – although all credit to Richard Radlherr & Paul Schabl. I did the original prototype of the software in Processing but soon hit performance limits. They implemented the C# version which actually has an underlying node editor a little bit like jitter so we can easily tweak & change functionality for different projects.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70899 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70899 Thu, 10 May 2007 14:39:02 +0000 nesa hello yair!

sorry: that page died, here’s the new link:

http://jit.playground.googlepages.com/brushtips.mov

@marcus: really nice project!

best wishes,
nesa

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70900 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70900 Sat, 01 Jan 2011 22:08:00 +0000 Gmix It looks like jean francois’ posts were erased somehow. Where can I find nesa’s patch? I tried going to the google page, but the link for the new website only opens up an html in safari where all the links are question marks. I know this is an old thread, but I’m very interested in wacom drawing, so if anyone can help point me in the right direction I’d appreciate it!

-G

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70901 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70901 Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:07:52 +0000 giorgio I believe is this one below, the link to download the brush tips is in Nesa’s last message.
Happy New Year!
g

– Pasted Max Patch, click to expand. –

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70902 <![CDATA[Re: live drawing w jitter & wacom tablet]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-drawing-w-jitter-wacom-tablet/#post-70902 Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:11:05 +0000 Gmix Thanks, giorgio! That’s a huge help! Happy new years to you as well!

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