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Live screen zoom access

March 30, 2010 | 3:26 pm

hello,

I´m totally new with m4l, I would like to know how could I access the "zoom screen" option, which is in -prefs-look & feel, in ableton live.

I work with my laptop on stage, and I could be really great to be able to resize the screen as I go far away from it, using midi or whatever.

any ideas??

thanks a lot!!


March 31, 2010 | 10:34 am

Its not possible. The API features that are currently there are features that were only possible to control with MIDI controllers.


April 1, 2010 | 6:21 pm

wau!!

so I don´t really get the point about m4l. why to work so hard in a patch to make some thing that you can do with much less efforts with the ableton live interface or just mapping anything to a midi controller??

pease, let me know what´s the point with m4l, so I´ll be able to take advantage of it!

thanks a lot.

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April 1, 2010 | 8:19 pm

could you not do it will the aka.shell object and tell live what you need done? not sure what the command would be, but i have accessed other apps like that.


April 2, 2010 | 12:57 am

what you mean I tell live?
I don´t know about unix commands, but if I knew that way it could be possible I could study some.
could it be done that way?
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April 2, 2010 | 5:00 pm

Ableton have not made the zoom function of the UI automatable.

Maybe you could make a feature request to them for it.

Also maybe there’s some kind of way to automate OS UI zooming, via a some kind of MIDI to keyboard shortcut.

-A


April 3, 2010 | 2:28 pm

hello andrew, yes, in fact I made a patch using the "universal access" zoom options 3 years ago. it works fine, but with less resolution. and I always wonder what is m4l for if it just makes the same things you can do using max and ableton live.

and I always like to try new ways for making the same things!!

here is the patch (for max 4.6!! by the way, I miss it´s old style look):

max v2;
#N vpatcher 0 44 819 667;
#P origin 24 25;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 3;
#P comment 688 255 100 196617 < - just to make zoom OUT and go back to normal state;
#P window linecount 1;
#P hidden newex 210 579 106 196617 bgcolor 204 162 200;
#P button 714 578 13 2;
#P button 714 561 13 2;
#P button 692 572 20 14;
#P button 730 569 13 2;
#P window linecount 2;
#P comment 535 573 126 196617 what the hell is this –> doing here?;
#P window linecount 3;
#P comment 622 46 146 196617 just an example. put your own screen coordenates and assing them to your own controllers;
#B color 13;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 18.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P comment 164 44 237 196626 screen zooming;
#B color 13;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P comment 164 70 235 196617 watch your screen parameters away from screen;
#B color 13;
#P user panel 157 38 619 54;
#X brgb 61 253 248;
#X frgb 0 0 0;
#X border 0;
#X rounded 0;
#X shadow 0;
#X done;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 10.;
#P window linecount 3;
#P comment 155 182 621 196618 IMPORTANT: you need to set up your "universal access" (in system settings) to "ZOOM = YES" and "ZOOM IN" with shortcuts "command 4" and "ZOOM OUT" with shortcuts "command 5." there you can select the amount of zoom desired too. you can also adjust there the amount of zoom IN you want.;
#B color 15;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 2;
#P comment 642 425 100 196617 < -keyboard shorcuts for zoom OUT;
#P window linecount 4;
#P comment 125 255 115 196617 mouse coordenates ->to tell zoom where to go (as it follows the mouse. like a cat! waw).;
#P window linecount 1;
#P message 518 256 91 196617 moveto 1100 380;
#B color 6;
#P message 418 256 85 196617 moveto 733 380;
#B color 6;
#P message 327 256 85 196617 moveto 400 380;
#B color 6;
#P newex 166 359 44 196617 del 500;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 10.;
#P newex 209 519 59 196618 aka.mouse;
#B color 6;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P message 166 425 154 196617 keydown 55 , key 21 , keyup 58 ,;
#B color 6;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 10.;
#P newex 210 494 73 196618 aka.keyboard;
#B color 6;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 632 256 50 196617 del 2500;
#P newex 36 229 101 196617 sel 97 102 106 108;
#P number 36 191 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 36 158 40 196617 key;
#P message 439 425 198 196617 keydown 55 , key 23 , keyup 58 , keyup 55;
#B color 6;
#P message 246 256 79 196617 moveto 66 380;
#B color 6;
#P window linecount 2;
#P comment 328 425 100 196617 < -keyboard shorcuts for zoom IN;
#P window linecount 3;
#P comment 298 495 292 196617 < -download this two aka externals (dear aka , I have used your externals in tons of max patches , I want to kiss you!!!). http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~aka/max/;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 10.;
#P window linecount 4;
#P comment 156 114 620 196618 I use max performing over the stage , sometimes I go far away from computer , and control max or ableton live with a wireless device. then then if I need to watch controlled parameters I can map a midi cc or note to make zoom over them automatically as I control them , just assing incoming data to the coordenates in which the controlled parameter is placed in my screen.
http://www.davidfernandez.org;
#P window linecount 7;
#P comment 39 36 61 196618 press keys "A" , "F" , "J" or "L" just to see an example of how it works;
#B color 15;
#P user panel 290 490 309 49;
#X brgb 253 65 61;
#X frgb 0 0 0;
#X border 0;
#X rounded 0;
#X shadow 0;
#X done;
#P connect 7 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 9 0;
#P fasten 9 0 14 0 41 305 171 305;
#P fasten 9 3 14 0 107 305 171 305;
#P fasten 9 2 14 0 85 305 171 305;
#P fasten 9 1 14 0 63 305 171 305;
#P connect 14 0 12 0;
#P fasten 17 0 13 0 523 414 214 414;
#P fasten 16 0 13 0 423 413 214 413;
#P fasten 15 0 13 0 332 414 214 414;
#P fasten 5 0 13 0 251 414 214 414;
#P connect 6 0 11 0;
#P connect 12 0 11 0;
#P fasten 9 0 5 0 41 321 251 321;
#P fasten 9 1 15 0 63 321 332 321;
#P fasten 9 2 16 0 85 320 423 320;
#P fasten 10 0 6 0 637 342 444 342;
#P fasten 9 3 17 0 107 320 523 320;
#P connect 14 0 10 0;
#P fasten 9 0 10 0 41 322 637 322;
#P pop;

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