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		<title>Cycling 74  &#187;  Topic: live.toggle set behaviour &#8211; i just don&#039;t get it.</title>
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					<title><![CDATA[live.toggle set behaviour &#8211; i just don&#039;t get it.]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-toggle-set-behaviour-i-just-dont-get-it/#post-46621</link>
					<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>marue</dc:creator>

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						<p>I&#8217;m trying to use a button on my controller to simultaneously provide feedback and act as a button (great!). The button on the controller sends a 1 on down and a 0 on up. So far so good, live.button directly interacts and reflects that changes.<br />
Now to provide feedback i set the button to another value than the one received from the controller. Here&#8217;s a simple patch to demonstrate:</p>
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<div class="patchtoggleInfo"><small>Copy <b>all</b> of the following text.Then, in Max, select <em>New From Clipboard</em>.</small></div>
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<p>The delay in there is because of the fact that my controllers button sends a zero on up, and live.button reacts to that. So i tried to wait a bit (until live.button has received the zero from the controller) and then set live.button to whatever value it should have.</p>
<p>No luck, this just doesn&#8217;t work. Why not? Any solution to this?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: live.toggle set behaviour &#8211; i just don&#039;t get it.]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-toggle-set-behaviour-i-just-dont-get-it/#post-167718</link>
					<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>spectro</dc:creator>

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						<p>I wondered about this for a bit myself, but it seems the output of the (set $1) message does not appear as a bang to the delay object (and the message &#8220;set: bad number&#8221; is posted to the max window). I&#8217;m not sure as to why the [select] is in the patch &#8211; among other things &#8211; so this may still need tweaking to work properly in your situation</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: live.toggle set behaviour &#8211; i just don&#039;t get it.]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/live-toggle-set-behaviour-i-just-dont-get-it/#post-167719</link>
					<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>marue</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hm, you where right about the bang. The patch is now working, thank you very much.</p>
<p>By the way: the select is there to differentiate between the down(1) and up(0) of the hardware controllers button.</p>
<p>I just realized that i could easily use the patch i did show to transform a hardware gate button to a toggle. Like this:</p>
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<p>The only thing not working well is when i mouse-click the button, instead of pressing the hardware controllers button. That way the zero on button-up is not being sent, and you have to press the button on the hardware controller twice&#8230; No solution to this yet.</p>
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