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logic circuit

Hans Mittendorf — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:21:16 +0000

I have a dual system running. At a certain moment the two toggles can be on zero and the system stops. What can I use to send a bang in case of two toggles arrive at zero?

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Tim Lloyd — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:32:38 +0000

If you add the output of 2 toggles together, and the result of that addition is 0, then you know both toggles will be on 0…….

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artm — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:45:18 +0000

wouldn’t the following modification of Tim’s solution be more intention revealing:

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Tim Lloyd — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:50:38 +0000

Yes, but then you have to know what the bitwise && and ! mean…….and if the OP did they would probably have been able to work out how to do it :P

and I also didn’t think of doing it like that in the if object……. :P

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artm — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:52:32 +0000

that’s logical &&, not bitwise, otherwise point taken :-)

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Tim Lloyd — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:53:29 +0000

haha right you are

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Hans Mittendorf — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:28:49 +0000

Thank you very much for your brain power!! This patch integrated and the system keeps going!
Well done!

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Hans Mittendorf — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:09:26 +0000

of course the funny thing now is that I can’t switch it off anymore…

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the_man361 — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:05:09 +0000

could use a gate to interrupt the triggering to turn it off

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artm — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:25:48 +0000

what do you mean “can’t switch it off”?

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Hans Mittendorf — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:38:55 +0000

one toggle is the master qmetro for the system. The other a sub toggle metro object. When the two are zero they receive a bang now and therefore I can’t turn it off anymore.

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Hans Mittendorf — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:41:51 +0000

Gate is a good solution. Thanks.

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Hans Mittendorf — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:10:57 +0000

Could you help me once more with your logic please?
What do we write if we want this to be for three toggles?
I tried this but it does not work.

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Tim Lloyd — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:40:29 +0000

In that patch you’re only really checking for 4 conditions:

0 0 0 – 1 (bang)
1 0 0 – 0
0 1 1 – 0 (because you’re sending 1 toggle to 2 inlets)
1 1 1 – 0

It needs to be checking for:

0 0 0 – 1 (bang)
1 0 0 – 0
0 1 0 – 0
0 0 1 – 0
1 1 1 – 0

Like this:

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Hans Mittendorf — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:24:46 +0000

Thank you Tim!!
That’s very well done.

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Tim Lloyd — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 19:37:32 +0000

You’ll have to take those truth tables with a pinch of salt, they’re incomplete :)

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Psyko Logical — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:04:06 +0000

Here’s how I’d do it:

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Hans Mittendorf — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:24:38 +0000

Thanks Tim and Psycho!
Tim, I use your suggestion at the moment. Now, I need it the other way around. What do I write when I want bang when all the toggles are on?!

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Ben Bracken — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:56:00 +0000

In general, I’d use pak instead of triggers:

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Tim Lloyd — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:12:07 +0000

Now that ^^ is a much neater way of doing it! Like in Ben’s example, you just need to remove ! from the if statement. ! means logical “not”, so using ! in the if object is like using a NAND gate, and you remove it if you just want an AND…..which is what && means.

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Hans Mittendorf — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:36:58 +0000

Many thanks to everyone!! This way I can keep the CPU away from 100%….

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Hans Mittendorf — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:39:22 +0000

hello logic circuit minds!
Thanks to your help, I can prevent the system from stopping or from cpu overload.
Listening to my patch made me want to do one more thing with the logic circuit.
Here is the situation:
I have connected the following circuit to five vst instrument to prevent them to stop

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Listening to the patch made me want to add one more circuit. I would like to build a second one which in case of only one instrument is playing will give a bang. So “if only one of five is on->bang.
I want to send the bang to a random object with argument 5 attached to a gate of five attached to the five vst’s.

Now the catch is that it can happen to send the band to the one which is on and would turn it off. That is the worst case, but how can I tell gate, or any other object which of the five is on and in that case to send the bang to one which is off?
It needs something that updates the state of the five vst’s…..

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Tim Lloyd — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:08:45 +0000

I’ve had a go so hopefully I understood what you need. It’s not the best way of doing it either, I know that; but someone else will chip in with a better solution which I look forward to! I’ve not got enough time to patch about for a while till it works.

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Hans Mittendorf — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:00:58 +0000

Hi Tim,
you are a real wizzard! It is exactly what I was thinking of. Thanks.
This gives a very high probability that another instrument will be turned on.
Maybe there is one more logical step to be done to say ‘if the random output equals the sending output take another one’
This way it would always work.

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Hans Mittendorf — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:20:36 +0000

Tim,
two more things came to my mind.
I could live without a random object too. As long as a second instrument will be switched on avoiding to switch off the remaining, it will be fine.

What interests me a lot about this patch is the fact that it seems to ‘be conscious’ about it’s own state and I would like to explore that a little bit more. Maybe building a sort of ‘consciousness object’……