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					<title><![CDATA[Looking for a way to trigger zones using a wireless camera]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vesslan</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hi!</p>
<p>Im new to max and very new to Jitter. But im trying to build a reliable system for a video trigger that uses a wireless camera and hope someone on this forum might have some experience about this kind of setup.<br />
My goal is to mount a camera in the celing looking down at IR-leds on the floor, and each led is grouped into a zone using something like the video trigger developed by zach poff: <a href="http://cycling74.com/project/project71-video-trigger/" rel="nofollow">http://cycling74.com/project/project71-video-trigger/</a></p>
<p>when something gets in the way of the leds the zone is triggered and something fancy happens. The problem right now is that I have never worked with wireless cameras before and hope someone might know a little about such hardware. Since the setup needs to be working during changeing light conditions I thought it would be best to work in the IR-spectrum. This also means I have to use a camera without a IR-blocker and a IR bandpass filter.</p>
<p>I´ve been looking at different IP cameras and it seems possible to get a feed into max using the jit.qt.movie object and a read message pointing at the url of the rtsp feed.</p>
<p>This is one of the cameras I´ve been looking at: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Foscam-FI8918W-Wireless-Network-Viewing/dp/B0046710G6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1325326901&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Foscam-FI8918W-Wireless-Network-Viewing/dp/B0046710G6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1325326901&#038;sr=1-1</a></p>
<p>Any help and thoughts on which hardware to use would be very much appreciated!<br />
Also, there might be a musch easier way to do this and ofc Im open to other suggestions!</p>
<p>/Christian</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for a way to trigger zones using a wireless camera]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>yaniki</dc:creator>

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						<p>If you can receive image from the camera in jit.qt.movie you are at home &#8211; but you have to test it (also image quality and transmission delay). Another question is related to lens: you need lens with angle (and distance between camera to floor) wide enough to monitor the space you want to test.</p>
<p>Software part is relatively simple to prepare. But I have a ready-made patch somewhere on my HD, and I&#8217;ll be trying to find it and post.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for a way to trigger zones using a wireless camera]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vesslan</dc:creator>

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						<p>Thanks for your reply!</p>
<p>I might have to use two cameras since its a pretty big area I have to cover, even if the height is 5 meters from the floor.<br />
It would be wonderful if you would like to share your patch, as I mentioned im new to jitter, and I really think it would help to see how you made your patch.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for a way to trigger zones using a wireless camera]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/looking-for-a-way-to-trigger-zones-using-a-wireless-camera/#post-233370</link>
					<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Yoann</dc:creator>

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						<p><a href="http://www.zachpoff.com/software/video-trigger/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zachpoff.com/software/video-trigger/</a><br />
might be good start.<br />
The old version has the patches attached.<br />
Zach Poff has a very nice UI to clic and drag areas on a preview.</p>
<p>Y</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for a way to trigger zones using a wireless camera]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/looking-for-a-way-to-trigger-zones-using-a-wireless-camera/#post-233371</link>
					<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>yaniki</dc:creator>

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						<p>Here is my basic, entry-level patch for &#8220;zone detection&#8221; in video. You can simple add more zones and features, because the routine is really simple.</p>
<p>Moreover I made some more complex tools for motion tracking (eg. like <a href="https://vimeo.com/30480928" rel="nofollow">https://vimeo.com/30480928</a> or <a href="https://vimeo.com/17401153" rel="nofollow">https://vimeo.com/17401153</a>) for my various projects, and some of them are available online, for free (the problem is: no english guide), I think my &#8220;ActiveZones2OSC&#8221; tool (link: <a href="http://www.wrocenter.pl/lab/activezones2osc/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wrocenter.pl/lab/activezones2osc/</a>) is something, you need. I&#8217;m working on new versions with full english guide, I need time&#8230; more time.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for a way to trigger zones using a wireless camera]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/looking-for-a-way-to-trigger-zones-using-a-wireless-camera/#post-233372</link>
					<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vesslan</dc:creator>

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						<p>This is all really impressive work. I think I can modify your patch for my needs on the motion detection side. The problem im facing right now has to do with the camera. It seems like IP-cameras cant offer a very good frame rate when streaming into Max. Im looking at the possibility of using a wireless hdmi stream through a black magic interface ( <a href="http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/intensity/software" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/intensity/software</a> ) into max. But Im not sure if this would work.</p>
<p>Thank you for the patch Yaniki and great work!</p>
<p>/Christian</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>yaniki</dc:creator>

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						<p>> wireless hdmi stream through a black magic interface</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be keeping my fingers crossed ;-)</p>
<p>You can also use eg. USB camera (I&#8217;m using PS3 Eye &#8220;hacked&#8221; a bit for IR light) with USB extension cable (not &#8220;ordinary&#8221; cheap extensions, but USB-ETHERNET-USB or [witch I tested and it's working great] USB-fiber-USB cable, witch may be even very long).</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for a way to trigger zones using a wireless camera]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vesslan</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hmm.. The ps3 eye is a great and cheap camera. But do you know if its possible to somehow make a usb-WIFI-usb connection?</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>yaniki</dc:creator>

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						<p>> a usb-WIFI-usb connection&#8230;</p>
<p>You want to establish any type of a wireless connection or WI-FI? What distance between camera and receiver you want to handle?</p>
<p>For wireless transmission you may find some gizmos (eg. <a href="http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/226467160/USB_RF_Transceiver_USB_Wireless_Data.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/226467160/USB_RF_Transceiver_USB_Wireless_Data.html</a> or <a href="http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/280476783/Wireless_Data_Transmission_USB_Module_JZ874.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/280476783/Wireless_Data_Transmission_USB_Module_JZ874.html</a>), but I&#8217;m not sure about quality &#8211; I&#8217;m typically working with fibre cables (I tested this solution for 30 &#8211; 50 meters distance).</p>
<p>For &#8220;real&#8221; WI-FI best idea will be, I think, just to connect PS3 Eye to the computer and computer to the net &#8230; another computer &#8211; connected to the same net may to receive the data from the firs one. I&#8217;m not sure about the quality of this solution (but it&#8217;s strongly depends on network quality). But from the other hand: in this case you can do all the zones detection on the first computer, and to transmit via net only messages about zones statuses (instead of the video) &#8211; this should be very efficient.</p>
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