henrik.wurster

I have a patch where sound is incoming from a drum picked up by microphones.

So far I have it running through a filtergraph which then plays matching

To make more subtle differences between incoming strokes, I`d like to max to

the attack or the debounce time, but couldn`t find a good way yet. I tried

before using fiddle and bonk(to be honest I gave up using the bonk object).

to set anyone up (me noob) by the generality of this question, but how can I

info out of a simple drum beat ? thanks a lot, any help yould be

hello list,
I have a patch where sound is incoming from a drum picked up by microphones.
So far I have it running through a filtergraph which then plays matching
samples.
To make more subtle differences between incoming strokes, I`d like to max to

determine
the attack or the debounce time, but couldn`t find a good way yet. I tried
this with pd
before using fiddle and bonk(to be honest I gave up using the bonk object).
Not wanting
to set anyone up (me noob) by the generality of this question, but how can I
get some attack
info out of a simple drum beat ? thanks a lot, any help yould be
appreciated.

looking-for-objects-for-triggering-attack-2

> I tried this with pd before using fiddle and bonk(to be honest I gave

bonk~ does exist for Max/MSP as well, and has some advantages over the 

classic methods of envelope following. The simplest way it to use slide~ 

or rampsmooth~, and look for peaks. If they are above a threshold bang...

bonk~ is adaptive, and can learn and distinguish sounds... (It will 

trigger if you play very soft as well...)

henrik wurster schrieb:
> I tried this with pd before using fiddle and bonk(to be honest I gave
> up using the bonk object).

bonk~ does exist for Max/MSP as well, and has some advantages over the 
classic methods of envelope following. The simplest way it to use slide~ 
or rampsmooth~, and look for peaks. If they are above a threshold bang...
bonk~ is adaptive, and can learn and distinguish sounds... (It will 
trigger if you play very soft as well...)

-- 
Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
--_____-----------|--------------
--(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
-- _|_)----|-----()--------------
----------()--------www.ccmix.com


thanks stefan...so does that mean bonk is always in learning mode ??

> > I tried this with pd before using fiddle and bonk(to be honest I gave

> bonk~ does exist for Max/MSP as well, and has some advantages over the

> classic methods of envelope following. The simplest way it to use slide~ or

> rampsmooth~, and look for peaks. If they are above a threshold bang...

> bonk~ is adaptive, and can learn and distinguish sounds... (It will

> trigger if you play very soft as well...)

> henrik wurster schrieb:
>
> > I tried this with pd before using fiddle and bonk(to be honest I gave
> > up using the bonk object).
> >
>
> bonk~ does exist for Max/MSP as well, and has some advantages over the
> classic methods of envelope following. The simplest way it to use slide~ or
> rampsmooth~, and look for peaks. If they are above a threshold bang...
> bonk~ is adaptive, and can learn and distinguish sounds... (It will
> trigger if you play very soft as well...)
>
> Stefan
>
> --
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>
>

Quote: henrik.wurster wrote on Sun, 04 May 2008 14:19

----------------------------------------------------

Quote: henrik.wurster wrote on Sun, 04 May 2008 14:19
----------------------------------------------------
> but how can I get some attack
> info out of a simple drum beat ?
----------------------------------------------------

thanks peter, I also hope that thresh~ could be appropriate. right now I

have subpatch with a filtergraph and I wondered if this could have been the

reason why it crashed (stack overflow). My three piezos need to be limited,

too, I guess, so but it is possible that the filtergraph needs to much

performance for a drum which plays back samples in realtime ? I need to find

out what causes the stack overflow as a hardware/interface problem or a

logical error.thanks!2008/5/6 Peter Ostry :

> Quote: henrik.wurster wrote on Sun, 04 May 2008 14:19

> ----------------------------------------------------

thanks peter, I also hope that thresh~ could be appropriate. right now I
have subpatch with a filtergraph and I wondered if this could have been the
reason why it crashed (stack overflow). My three piezos need to be limited,
too, I guess, so but it is possible that the filtergraph needs to much
performance for a drum which plays back samples in realtime ? I need to find
out what causes the stack overflow as a hardware/interface problem or a
logical error.thanks!2008/5/6 Peter Ostry :

>
> Quote: henrik.wurster wrote on Sun, 04 May 2008 14:19
> ----------------------------------------------------
> > but how can I get some attack
> > info out of a simple drum beat ?
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Perhaps [thresh~] can attract you?
>
>
>
> --
> Peter
>
>

> thanks stefan...so does that mean bonk is always in learning mode ??

I haven't used bonk~ too much, but as far as I understood, it detects on 

spectral change relative to an existing spectrum. Its the spectral 

difference which triggers and not the volume...

That applies after learning the spectral envelope of a given instrument...

I might be wrong, anybody who knows better, please correct...

henrik wurster schrieb:
> thanks stefan...so does that mean bonk is always in learning mode ??

I haven't used bonk~ too much, but as far as I understood, it detects on 
spectral change relative to an existing spectrum. Its the spectral 
difference which triggers and not the volume...

I am interested in this as well, do you have an example 

that uses slide~ or rampsmooth~ that demonstrates this?

I am interested in this as well, do you have an example 
that uses slide~ or rampsmooth~ that demonstrates this?


sorry, me I came from pd first, but I had given it up, now I want it again

:)bonk is harder to regulate than fiddle I think

> I am interested in this as well, do you have an example

> that uses slide~ or rampsmooth~ that demonstrates this?

sorry, me I came from pd first, but I had given it up, now I want it again
:)bonk is harder to regulate than fiddle I think

>
> I am interested in this as well, do you have an example
> that uses slide~ or rampsmooth~ that demonstrates this?
>
>

> I am interested in this as well, do you have an example 

My St.hresh~, here the Max 5 version of it:

Anthony Palomba schrieb:
> I am interested in this as well, do you have an example 
> that uses slide~ or rampsmooth~ that demonstrates this?

is there any way to convert the patch for 4.6.3 ?;)

>> I am interested in this as well, do you have an example that uses slide~

>> or rampsmooth~ that demonstrates this?

> My St.hresh~, here the Max 5 version of it:

> Anthony Palomba schrieb:
>
>> I am interested in this as well, do you have an example that uses slide~
>> or rampsmooth~ that demonstrates this?
>>
>
> My St.hresh~, here the Max 5 version of it:
>
>
>
>
> --
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>
>

> is there any way to convert the patch for 4.6.3 ?;)

Its part of my St.ools collection, still in 4.6.3 compatible version on 

henrik wurster schrieb:
> is there any way to convert the patch for 4.6.3 ?;)

Its part of my St.ools collection, still in 4.6.3 compatible version on 
cyclings share page...

looking for objects for triggering attack