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loosing my mind please help

September 18, 2006 | 11:40 am

please how can i make Coll only output when it receives a bang ( say from
tempo) and NOT when ever it receives ANYTHING. i want to be able to retrieve
( using Key) from Coll, but i only want the info to bang at certain
intervals, determined by Tempo. pweeees help me

thanks,
joel


September 18, 2006 | 12:28 pm

Not sure if I understand exactly what you’re after,
but sounds like a job for ‘set’.
Use your key routine to

the value into a
message box, the output of which is then trigered by
yer bangs. See Tutorial 25, Managing Mesages,
cheers
Roger
— Joel Swensen

wrote:

> please how can i make Coll only output when it
> receives a bang ( say from
> tempo) and NOT when ever it receives ANYTHING. i
> want to be able to retrieve
> ( using Key) from Coll, but i only want the info to
> bang at certain
> intervals, determined by Tempo. pweeees help me
>
> thanks,
> joel
>


September 18, 2006 | 4:49 pm

attach an [int 1] box to the top-left inlet of coll.
send your coll retrieval msgs to the right outlet of the int box,
bang when necessary to retrieve the value.

cheers
evan

On Sep 18, 2006, at 12:40 PM, Joel Swensen wrote:

> please how can i make Coll only output when it receives a bang
> ( say from tempo) and NOT when ever it receives ANYTHING. i want to
> be able to retrieve ( using Key) from Coll, but i only want the
> info to bang at certain intervals, determined by Tempo. pweeees
> help me
>
> thanks,
> joel


September 18, 2006 | 5:26 pm

is this of any help ?

#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P message 123 77 14 196617 1;
#P newex 174 388 51 196617 zl slice 1;
#P newex 513 182 27 196617 – 1;
#P button 479 128 15 0;
#P newex 513 207 27 196617 t i i;
#P newex 513 278 105 196617 sprintf store %ld %s;
#P newex 479 151 92 196617 uzi 4;
#P newex 103 21 48 196617 loadbang;
#P user ubumenu 563 250 100 196617 0 1 1 0;
#X add bonjour;
#X add wahtsUp?;
#X add caVa?;
#X add seeYouLater;
#X prefix_set 0 0 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 14.;
#P message 174 443 101 196622 bonjour;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 104 241 30 196617 t b b;
#P message 53 187 14 196617 0;
#P newex 174 413 62 196617 prepend set;
#P button 174 311 15 0;
#P button 123 143 15 0;
#P message 72 187 14 196617 1;
#P newex 104 218 29 196617 gate;
#P message 302 167 14 196617 3;
#P message 281 167 14 196617 2;
#P message 261 167 14 196617 1;
#P message 240 167 14 196617 0;
#P number 240 115 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 240 139 83 196617 sel 28 29 30 31;
#P newex 174 333 54 196617 i;
#P newex 240 87 116 196617 key;
#P newex 123 96 76 196617 tempo 15 1 16;
#N coll ;
#P newobj 174 363 53 196617 coll;
#P comment 341 142 100 196617 arrow keys;
#P window linecount 4;
#P comment 245 305 100 196617 number is stored until bang received from [tempo] releases it;
#P window linecount 8;
#P comment 38 282 100 196617 gate is closed immediatly after bang is received so no further bangs from [tempo] come in , [onebang] object might be even better …;
#P window linecount 2;
#P comment 554 302 100 196617 just stuff to store for [coll];
#P connect 23 0 30 0;
#P fasten 23 0 27 0 108 60 484 60;
#P connect 30 0 5 0;
#P fasten 25 0 4 0 518 357 179 357;
#P connect 27 0 24 0;
#P connect 22 1 25 1;
#P connect 28 0 26 0;
#P fasten 24 2 28 0 566 175 518 175;
#P fasten 26 0 22 0 518 237 568 237;
#P fasten 26 1 25 0 535 251 518 251;
#P connect 6 0 9 0;
#P connect 9 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 7 1;
#P connect 11 0 7 1;
#P connect 12 0 7 1;
#P connect 13 0 7 1;
#P connect 15 0 14 0;
#P connect 8 1 11 0;
#P connect 8 1 15 0;
#P connect 8 2 12 0;
#P connect 8 2 15 0;
#P connect 8 3 13 0;
#P connect 8 3 15 0;
#P connect 16 0 14 1;
#P connect 17 0 7 0;
#P connect 7 0 4 0;
#P connect 19 0 14 0;
#P connect 14 0 20 0;
#P connect 20 1 17 0;
#P fasten 20 0 19 0 109 270 38 270 38 175 58 175;
#P connect 5 0 16 0;
#P connect 8 0 10 0;
#P connect 8 0 15 0;
#P connect 18 0 21 0;
#P connect 4 0 29 0;
#P fasten 29 1 18 0 220 409 179 409;
#P window clipboard copycount 31;

Quote: prestonandbully@gmail wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 05:40
—————————————————-
> please how can i make Coll only output when it receives a bang ( say from
> tempo) and NOT when ever it receives ANYTHING. i want to be able to retrieve
> ( using Key) from Coll, but i only want the info to bang at certain
> intervals, determined by Tempo. pweeees help me
>
> thanks,
> joel
>
>
—————————————————-


September 18, 2006 | 9:53 pm

um my Max doen’s like your patch for some reason. even if i put max v2; and
# pop; all it shows is a long stream of error: "#P " no such object. am i
doing somthing wrong? i would really like to see what you had for me

On 9/18/06, karl-otto von wrote:
>
>
> is this of any help ?
>
> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
> #P window linecount 1;
> #P message 123 77 14 196617 1;
> #P newex 174 388 51 196617 zl slice 1;
> #P newex 513 182 27 196617 – 1;
> #P button 479 128 15 0;
> #P newex 513 207 27 196617 t i i;
> #P newex 513 278 105 196617 sprintf store %ld %s;
> #P newex 479 151 92 196617 uzi 4;
> #P newex 103 21 48 196617 loadbang;
> #P user ubumenu 563 250 100 196617 0 1 1 0;
> #X add bonjour;
> #X add wahtsUp?;
> #X add caVa?;
> #X add seeYouLater;
> #X prefix_set 0 0 0;
> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 14.;
> #P message 174 443 101 196622 bonjour;
> #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
> #P newex 104 241 30 196617 t b b;
> #P message 53 187 14 196617 0;
> #P newex 174 413 62 196617 prepend set;
> #P button 174 311 15 0;
> #P button 123 143 15 0;
> #P message 72 187 14 196617 1;
> #P newex 104 218 29 196617 gate;
> #P message 302 167 14 196617 3;
> #P message 281 167 14 196617 2;
> #P message 261 167 14 196617 1;
> #P message 240 167 14 196617 0;
> #P number 240 115 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
> #P newex 240 139 83 196617 sel 28 29 30 31;
> #P newex 174 333 54 196617 i;
> #P newex 240 87 116 196617 key;
> #P newex 123 96 76 196617 tempo 15 1 16;
> #N coll ;
> #P newobj 174 363 53 196617 coll;
> #P comment 341 142 100 196617 arrow keys;
> #P window linecount 4;
> #P comment 245 305 100 196617 number is stored until bang received from
> [tempo] releases it;
> #P window linecount 8;
> #P comment 38 282 100 196617 gate is closed immediatly after bang is
> received so no further bangs from [tempo] come in , [onebang] object might
> be even better …;
> #P window linecount 2;
> #P comment 554 302 100 196617 just stuff to store for [coll];
> #P connect 23 0 30 0;
> #P fasten 23 0 27 0 108 60 484 60;
> #P connect 30 0 5 0;
> #P fasten 25 0 4 0 518 357 179 357;
> #P connect 27 0 24 0;
> #P connect 22 1 25 1;
> #P connect 28 0 26 0;
> #P fasten 24 2 28 0 566 175 518 175;
> #P fasten 26 0 22 0 518 237 568 237;
> #P fasten 26 1 25 0 535 251 518 251;
> #P connect 6 0 9 0;
> #P connect 9 0 8 0;
> #P connect 10 0 7 1;
> #P connect 11 0 7 1;
> #P connect 12 0 7 1;
> #P connect 13 0 7 1;
> #P connect 15 0 14 0;
> #P connect 8 1 11 0;
> #P connect 8 1 15 0;
> #P connect 8 2 12 0;
> #P connect 8 2 15 0;
> #P connect 8 3 13 0;
> #P connect 8 3 15 0;
> #P connect 16 0 14 1;
> #P connect 17 0 7 0;
> #P connect 7 0 4 0;
> #P connect 19 0 14 0;
> #P connect 14 0 20 0;
> #P connect 20 1 17 0;
> #P fasten 20 0 19 0 109 270 38 270 38 175 58 175;
> #P connect 5 0 16 0;
> #P connect 8 0 10 0;
> #P connect 8 0 15 0;
> #P connect 18 0 21 0;
> #P connect 4 0 29 0;
> #P fasten 29 1 18 0 220 409 179 409;
> #P window clipboard copycount 31;
>
>
>
>
>
> Quote: prestonandbully@gmail wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 05:40
> —————————————————-
> > please how can i make Coll only output when it receives a bang ( say
> from
> > tempo) and NOT when ever it receives ANYTHING. i want to be able to
> retrieve
> > ( using Key) from Coll, but i only want the info to bang at certain
> > intervals, determined by Tempo. pweeees help me
> >
> > thanks,
> > joel
> >
> >
> —————————————————-
>
>
>


September 18, 2006 | 10:00 pm

strange … did u copy and paste in a new patcher window ? i assume so.
the patch was made with max 4.5.5 , mac version…

Quote: prestonandbully@gmail wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 15:53
—————————————————-
> um my Max doen’s like your patch for some reason. even if i put max v2; and
> # pop; all it shows is a long stream of error: "#P " no such object. am i
> doing somthing wrong? i would really like to see what you had for me
>


September 19, 2006 | 7:36 pm

Joel Swensen wrote:
> um my Max doen’s like your patch for some reason. even if i put max v2;
> and # pop; all it shows is a long stream of error: "#P " no such object.
> am i doing somthing wrong? i would really like to see what you had for me

I modified it already, because with onebang or change it would be even
simpler.
You need to copy the patch and then use "new from clipboard" to open it
directly into Max. (unless you have a pre 4.5.5 version, then let us
know…)

#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 414 384 68 196617 route symbol;
#P newex 174 388 68 196617 route symbol;
#P button 391 361 15 0;
#P newex 431 272 33 196617 – 28;
#P newex 414 305 27 196617 i;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 14.;
#P message 414 440 101 196622 wahtsUp?;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 414 410 62 196617 prepend set;
#P newex 414 330 54 196617 change;
#N coll ;
#T flags 1 0;
#T 0 bonjour;
#T 1 wahtsUp?;
#T 2 caVa?;
#T 3 See you later;
#P newobj 414 360 53 196617 coll;
#P button 123 209 15 0;
#P newex 123 179 50 196617 onebang;
#P message 123 77 14 196617 1;
#P newex 103 21 48 196617 loadbang;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 14.;
#P message 174 443 101 196622 wahtsUp?;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 174 413 62 196617 prepend set;
#P button 123 143 15 0;
#P message 302 167 14 196617 3;
#P message 281 167 14 196617 2;
#P message 261 167 14 196617 1;
#P message 240 167 14 196617 0;
#P number 240 115 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 240 139 83 196617 sel 28 29 30 31;
#P newex 174 333 54 196617 i;
#P newex 240 87 116 196617 key;
#P newex 123 96 76 196617 tempo 15 1 16;
#N coll ;
#T flags 1 0;
#T 0 bonjour;
#T 1 wahtsUp?;
#T 2 caVa?;
#T 3 See you later;
#P newobj 174 363 53 196617 coll;
#P comment 329 142 66 196617 arrow keys;
#P window linecount 4;
#P comment 34 327 100 196617 number is stored until bang received from
[tempo] releases it;
#P window linecount 1;
#P comment 483 316 100 196617 or much easier:;
#P fasten 28 1 22 0 477 405 419 405;
#P connect 28 0 22 0;
#P connect 20 0 28 0;
#P fasten 27 1 14 0 237 409 179 409;
#P connect 27 0 14 0;
#P connect 3 0 27 0;
#P connect 21 0 26 0;
#P connect 21 0 20 0;
#P connect 13 0 18 0;
#P connect 13 0 24 0;
#P connect 8 0 7 0;
#P fasten 8 0 25 0 245 133 436 133;
#P connect 19 0 6 0;
#P connect 25 0 24 1;
#P connect 24 0 21 0;
#P connect 22 0 23 0;
#P connect 7 3 18 1;
#P connect 7 3 12 0;
#P connect 7 2 18 1;
#P connect 7 2 11 0;
#P connect 7 1 18 1;
#P connect 7 1 10 0;
#P connect 7 0 18 1;
#P connect 7 0 9 0;
#P connect 18 0 19 0;
#P connect 14 0 15 0;
#P connect 4 0 13 0;
#P connect 6 0 3 0;
#P connect 12 0 6 1;
#P connect 11 0 6 1;
#P connect 10 0 6 1;
#P connect 9 0 6 1;
#P connect 5 0 8 0;
#P connect 17 0 4 0;
#P connect 16 0 17 0;
#P window clipboard copycount 29;


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September 19, 2006 | 8:37 pm

yeah i have 4.5.0 :( but i got a binary from otto. thanks to all for your
thoughts on this


September 20, 2006 | 1:48 am

indeed much nicer ;)

Quote: Stefan Tiedje wrote on Tue, 19 September 2006 13:36
—————————————————-

> I modified it already, because with onebang or change it would be even
> simpler.


September 20, 2006 | 6:20 am

Joel Swensen wrote:
> yeah i have 4.5.0 :( but i got a binary from otto. thanks to all for
> your thoughts on this

The update for 4.5.7 or 4.6 is free, go ahead it has tons of improvements…


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September 21, 2006 | 3:26 am

guys how do i think about BPMs when working with max? im using Waveform to
slice beats out of drumloops and storing the slices in a Preset object. but
it kinda sux. is there anywaythat i can sync the BPM from the loop up with
the BPM snapping on Wavform~? and not have to do it manualy each time?
is this asking for beat detection? and if so how is max at doing that?

thanks,
joel

P.s. im not going to upgrade till i get my laptop next month, im affrade of
what might happen to this OLD OLD pc. 2 of my hard drives have failed so far
and this one isn’t doing so well. so im avoiding big instalations. i’ve had
this beast for 5 years lol


September 21, 2006 | 4:17 pm

joel check these links out , i think you will find some of the answers you are looking for :

audiooo.com japanese recycler application with some interesting downloads for people interested in the subject.

check pelado’s p.decimator patch which is another recycler.

http://www.pelado.co.uk/?cat=4

in case you did not check the modsquad patch in the msp examples, check the different vesions , showing different approaches on recycling.

this will give you a few different options on recycling .
have fun exploring.

Quote: prestonandbully@gmail wrote on Wed, 20 September 2006 21:26
—————————————————-
> guys how do i think about BPMs when working with max? im using Waveform to
> slice beats out of drumloops and storing the slices in a Preset object. but
> it kinda sux. is there anywaythat i can sync the BPM from the loop up with
> the BPM snapping on Wavform~? and not have to do it manualy each time?
> is this asking for beat detection? and if so how is max at doing that?
>
> thanks,
> joel
>
> P.s. im not going to upgrade till i get my laptop next month, im affrade of
> what might happen to this OLD OLD pc. 2 of my hard drives have failed so far
> and this one isn’t doing so well. so im avoiding big instalations. i’ve had
> this beast for 5 years lol
>
>
—————————————————-


December 1, 2006 | 5:56 am

i am sure i am not the first to think this, but has anyone
done a max/msp podcast? IF i felt like i knew what i was
talking about, i would do it. So far, all i have found is
some random useless stuff on youtube. Just an idea.
-chuck

*i am hoping this post does not get a million obtrusive one
line responses which fills up everyones mailboxes, just
intended to spark some ideas, to provoke action, not words.

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