bdhm

if I have used just temporarily an extern LCD-monitor when I was saving a MAX patch on my MBP --> I can not reach all the MAX windows of this patch anymore without this LCD-monitor.

is there a trick to say MAX: "hey you have now only one monitor anymore! --- please move all windows back to this monitor!" ?

the same problem I have with LOGIC and other software.

if I have used just temporarily an extern LCD-monitor when I was saving a MAX patch on my MBP --> I can not reach all the MAX windows of this patch anymore without this LCD-monitor. 

lost-in-the-second-monitor

Yes, i already had this as well, but not with Max.

Sometimes simply changing your screen resolution to another settings, and then back again will force the app to move your window to the main (and only) monitor.

close all windows, even when you don't see them. restart. shoudl work then, in most cases.

FYI, the nvidia nView desktop management software has functionality for 

sending windows to different connected displays.

It's great for "sucking" back windows from software that doesn't have 

(they also did the "Spaces" thing many many MANY moons ago, and still do)

FYI, the nvidia nView desktop management software has functionality for 
sending windows to different connected displays.
It's great for "sucking" back windows from software that doesn't have 
the great functionality of Max.

(they also did the "Spaces" thing many many MANY moons ago, and still do)
Andreas.


You can also have an emergency "window size 0 0 200 200, window exec" message attached to a [thispatcher] in all your potentially wayward windows. Trigger them with a keystroke or a send from a patch which stays in the main monitor. In this case, your window should jump to the top left of the main one and become 200 x 200 pixels in size. Tweak as desired, or save presets of precise size and positioning of your windows.

I needed to do this for a vj setup where the second monitor was projecting the visuals, and there wasn't a title bar on the window (so no way to manually move it with the mouse). I got the positioning and size just right (for whatever projector I was using) using a control panel in the main patch (a pack object for the 4 coordinates), then could recall that as a preset.

You can also have an emergency "window size 0 0 200 200, window exec" message attached to a [thispatcher] in all your potentially wayward windows. Trigger them with a keystroke or a send from a patch which stays in the main monitor. In this case, your window should jump to the top left of the main one and become 200 x 200 pixels in size. Tweak as desired, or save presets of precise size and positioning of your windows. 

One thing worth trying is using the 'activate spaces' key command in Leopard. It is F8 on my keyboard, I can't remember if thats the default...but you can set it in system preferences/spaces. The key command will zoom out to show all of your 'spaces', and you can move windows around...even between monitors. 

I had a similar problem and I found that with another parcher open alt clicking the small green '+' circle on the to of the window (or maybe it was the orange '-') gathers all windows back onto the main screen.

Quote: bdhm wrote on Tue, 09 December 2008 11:11

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> if I have used just temporarily an extern LCD-monitor when I was saving a MAX patch on my MBP --> I can not reach all the MAX windows of this patch anymore without this LCD-monitor. 

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This has been billed as a "feature" in Max for almost twenty years.

At least on Mac OS, it has always been an application's responsibility to (1) store window position and size as part of the document on Save and (2) check the stored dimensions against the current screen geometry on Open. If the stored coordinates are off screen, the app is supposed to move the window on screen.

Many applications diverge from the 'canonical' behavior in different ways. After years of complaints to Cycling '74, someone added code to Max implementing the option-select-patcher-from-Window-menu technique. That's the official way to solve your problem.

Quote: bdhm wrote on Tue, 09 December 2008 11:11
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> if I have used just temporarily an extern LCD-monitor when I was saving a MAX patch on my MBP --> I can not reach all the MAX windows of this patch anymore without this LCD-monitor. 
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Many applications diverge from the 'canonical' behavior in different ways. After years of complaints to Cycling '74, someone added code to Max implementing the option-select-patcher-from-Window-menu technique. That's the official way to solve your problem.


Nick Inhofe wrote on Tue, 09 December 2008 19:18

One thing worth trying is using the 'activate spaces' key command in Leopard. It is F8 on my keyboard, I can't remember if thats the default...but you can set it in system preferences/spaces. The key command will zoom out to show all of your 'spaces', and you can move windows around...even between monitors.

Nick Inhofe wrote on Tue, 09 December 2008 19:18One thing worth trying is using the 'activate spaces' key command in Leopard. It is F8 on my keyboard, I can't remember if thats the default...but you can set it in system preferences/spaces. The key command will zoom out to show all of your 'spaces', and you can move windows around...even between monitors.

hi,
yes this is the best resolution for me.

At least I'm experiencing the same problem on my Max 8 :(

11 years later still the same problem? 
At least I'm experiencing the same problem on my Max 8 :(

it is not really a max releated problem, it will happen with most windows.

in my ancient operating system i am using (for various reasons) a third party extension which lets me move any window - at any click location - by a certain keyboard combination.

that also works with windows which are positioned outside the currently connected monitors (as long as the GPU is still there, because otherwise you cant move the mouse outside the visible area.)

"solve" the "problem" right in max by adding a "stack windows" function to its window menu. but eventually it would cause more trouble than it can help.

btw, if an operating system does not move back all windows into the visible area after you changed the monitor configuration, i would call this a bug of the OS. normally after disconnecting an nth monitor for longer/forever it should be enough to change the monitor settings controlpanel to the new setup and all application windows and icons should be forced to the new area.

otoh: do you really want all your apps to move all windows positions (which means changing the patcher file / making it dirty!) only because you forgot to turn the second monitor on in time? ;) 

 that can only be reached by creating new settings in the OS. 

@javi: someone mentioned reselecting the monitor

 worked for him. did you try that already?


it is not really a max releated problem, it will happen with most windows.

in my ancient operating system i am using (for various reasons) a third party extension which lets me move any window - at any click location - by a certain keyboard combination.

that also works with windows which are positioned outside the currently connected monitors (as long as the GPU is still  there, because otherwise you cant move the mouse outside the visible area.)

one could "solve" the "problem" right in max by adding a "stack windows" function to its window menu. but eventually it would cause more trouble than it can help.

btw, if an operating system does not move back all windows into the visible area after you changed the monitor configuration, i would call this a bug of the OS. normally after disconnecting an nth monitor for longer/forever it should be enough to change the monitor settings controlpanel to the new setup and all application windows and icons should be forced to the new area.

otoh: do you really want all your apps to move all windows positions (which means changing the patcher file / making it dirty!) only because you forgot to turn the second monitor on in time? ;) 
of course that can only be reached by creating new settings in the OS. 

@javi: someone mentioned reselecting the monitor resolution worked for him. did you try that already?


If you "cmd"+"click" on the jit.world object, the window comes to first monitor from the "non existent anymore" second monitor. 

( Thanks @roman for your answer anyway! )

I found the "solution" I think!
If you "cmd"+"click" on the jit.world object, the window comes to first monitor from the "non existent anymore" second monitor. 
KABOOM!
( Thanks @roman for your answer anyway! ) 

Peter Castine's post is still valid (using option key - on a Mac - in Max' Window menu). (I wonder what I wrote in 2008, and why it has been removed…)

Peter Castine's post is still valid (using option key - on a Mac -  in Max'  Window menu).  (I wonder what I wrote in 2008, and  why it has been removed…)

lost in the second monitor