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M-audio FW410 problems

November 9, 2006 | 12:07 am

Hello,
The M-audio FW 410 is really getting frustrating for me because of the endless succession of problems. After spending several months to find a suitable pcmcia cardbus, it carries on with a rather amusing problem.
It constantly crashes the max if somebody does something with the
houses appliances and takes every shred of a day’s work with it.
Never even heard a problem like that and I won’t be able to do
anything with that audio interface. And that includes turning the lights on and off too…

I was hoping that you had an idea about the possible solutions to this because the built-in sound card is a terrible option for me either. I got the unit from ebay without anything except for the actual unit, no cables or manuals etc…So it doesn’t have the original ac adapter. I tried it with the just laptop’s battery on, laptop running from the ac power and both ways. It wouldn’t help. I even got an ups, which doesn’t do it either. I can’t even go to the bathroom without getting my Max crashed.

So my solution to this is, as stated in the previous topic aboud FW 410, bus-powering the unit. However, I heard at a review (at sound-on-sound) that you can’t actually feed the unit with a pcmcia card by itself. So you must use a power adapter for the unit, or for the pcmcia card itself. I was wondering what are other solutions to this problem, is standalone bus-powering really possible?

My laptop is Asus A6V, centrino 1,8 ghz. 512 mb ram with Billionton pcmcia to firewire adapter (VIA chipset)

Thanks
Ali



Aly
November 9, 2006 | 12:02 pm


November 9, 2006 | 4:51 pm

Thanks Aly
Well that’s what I have been thinking about for a couple of weeks. But the problem is, It’ll take a couple of YEARS for me to save enough money for Mbox2 : )
I was really getting a little worked up about my computer skills because I do see people getting along fine with the unit. But appearently mine has developed a hostile attitude towards the human kind, otherwise it would be working.

So I’d appreciate if the lucky people who could actually tamed the interface can share their experiences because I am likely to get stucked with this thing for the time being (not if I won the lottery of course :)

Or I can buy a Tascam US 122 interface with stereo outputs!?
yeah, sounds a little lame doesn’t it…

Waiting for more lovin’, people.

(Aly,our names are pronounced the exact same way in Turkish…feels weird : )
Ali


November 10, 2006 | 6:01 pm

come on! don’t tell me there is no one FW 410 owner without at least a tiny bit of frustration.


November 10, 2006 | 10:48 pm

I’ve been working with a FW 410 for more than a year. PB G4, OS
10.3.9 and OS 10.4.6 respectively; usual Firewire connection and
standard (external) power supply. Basically it’s OK. I got sporadic
glitches with the driver for OS 10.3.9 that disappeared with the new
driver for OS 10.4.6 which in turn doesn’t like sleep mode. No other
problems by now.

Best,
Michael

Am 10.11.2006 um 19:01 schrieb gimbal:

>
> come on! don’t tell me there is no one FW 410 owner without at
> least a tiny bit of frustration.
>


November 11, 2006 | 6:25 pm

Hi,
Powerbook’s built in firewire ports are sufficent to please FW 410. But I thought they could provide power in their firewire ports since they are 6-pinned, do they need external power adapter too?

Is there a pcmcia to firewire cardthat I can use to power up the unit without using the adapter? Is it possible?


November 13, 2006 | 9:40 am

…from M-Audio website (bold is mine):

Bus power vs. power supply


Q: With the exception of the ProjectMix I/O, M-Audio FireWire
interfaces can get their power from the 1394 bus, so why do these
interfaces include a power adapter in the box?

A: PC Laptop and desktop users with the I-Link 4-pin 1394 interface
need to use the 12 VDC power adaptor provided in order to power an M-
Audio FireWire interface for operation on their computers. If you
are connecting your M-Audio FireWire device to a 6-pin connector on
your computer, the unit will be powerered through the FireWire cable
- do NOT use the provided power supply when using a 6-pin connection! *

However, PCMCIA cards with 6-pin connectors are the only exception
from this rule. The PCMCIA bus itself doesn’t have the capacity to
provide enough power to a FireWire audio interface – even if the
PCMCIA FireWire controller card is equipped with 6-pin connectors.
Please DO use the provided power supply when connection your M-Audio
FireWire audio interface to a PCMCIA FireWire controller card.

*note: the ProjectMix I/O is an exception, this device is not powered
by your computer’s FireWire bus, and requires the included power
adapter at all times.

On 2006/11/11, at 18:25, gimbal wrote:

>
> Hi,
> Powerbook’s built in firewire ports are sufficent to please FW 410.
> But I thought they could provide power in their firewire ports
> since they are 6-pinned, do they need external power adapter too?
>
> Is there a pcmcia to firewire cardthat I can use to power up the
> unit without using the adapter? Is it possible?


November 13, 2006 | 10:30 am

Hi,
Thank you but I’ve been struggling with this card since forever and I already saw the question on the m-audio web page.
The reason why I am still asking this question is M-audio also declared a list of recommended pcmcia card manufacturers and some of the models are stated as "bus power" while the others are to be used with adapter.
So I am looking for someone who tried those exceptional models basically.
I will try and and post the information i am talking about at the m-audio’s web page but I can’t find it right now, It usually doesn’t appear on the search results for a mysterious reason.

Ali


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