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Does the mac version contain more externals? Why can't some patches be opened on windows?

Does the mac version contain more externals?  Why can't some patches be opened on windows?


mac-vs-pc-version

The Windows version has far more nudity in it, go Windows!!

> Does the mac version contain more externals?

The externals bundled with Max/MSP are identical. There are one or 

two highly Mac-specific externals (like gestalt) but even they make a 

concerted effort to behave as close to identically as possible on 

3rd party externals can be divided into seven classes:

- Available for Mac OS, but only up to OS 9

Many developers make the added effort to support both Mac and 

Windows, but others either don't have a compelling motivation to do 

so or do not have easy access to hardware for developing and testing 

on the other OS. The number of Mac-only externals is comparatively 

small and dwindling, but they do exist. As the above attests, even on 

> Why can't some patches be opened on windows?

If you can't even *open* the patch, then it's not a question of 

externals. Patches with missing externals open alright, they just 

Possible reasons a Mac OS-based patch might not open on Windows

- It doesn't have the silly suffix (.mxt, .mxb, .pat)

--> get StuffIt Expander and un-BinHex it

--> do something else, probably involving StuffIt Expander

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On 6-Jul-2006, at 2:16, papermesh wrote:
> Does the mac version contain more externals?

The externals bundled with Max/MSP are identical. There are one or  
two highly Mac-specific externals (like gestalt) but even they make a  
concerted effort to behave as close to identically as possible on  
both platforms.

- Available for both Mac OS and Window
- Available for Windows only
- Available for Mac OS only
- Available for Mac OS, but only OS X
- Available for Mac OS, but only up to OS 9
- Available for Mac OS, but only 68k
- Something else

Many developers make the added effort to support both Mac and  
Windows, but others either don't have a compelling motivation to do  
so or do not have easy access to hardware for developing and testing  
on the other OS. The number of Mac-only externals is comparatively  
small and dwindling, but they do exist. As the above attests, even on  
Mac OS there can be gotchas.

>   Why can't some patches be opened on windows?

If you can't even *open* the patch, then it's not a question of  
externals. Patches with missing externals open alright, they just  
generate error messages.

- It doesn't have the silly suffix (.mxt, .mxb, .pat)
   --> add the silly suffix
- It was archived in StuffIt format
   --> get StuffIt Expander and unstuff it
- It was encoded in BinHex format
   --> get StuffIt Expander and un-BinHex it
- Something else
   --> do something else, probably involving StuffIt Expander

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On 6 Jul 2006, at 22:37, Peter Castine wrote:

> - Available for Mac OS, but only up to OS 9

- Available for Mac OS X in CFM/PowerPC format, not Universal Binary

Up to now I've had a CVS repository with 3rd-party objects divided 

between OS 9 and OS X (although some work on both); now it's clearly 

time for a split between OS X/PPC and OS X/UB...

nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- 

> - Available for both Mac OS and Window
> - Available for Windows only
> - Available for Mac OS only
> - Available for Mac OS, but only OS X
> - Available for Mac OS, but only up to OS 9
> - Available for Mac OS, but only 68k
> - Something else

Up to now I've had a CVS repository with 3rd-party objects divided  
between OS 9 and OS X (although some work on both); now it's clearly  
time for a split between OS X/PPC and OS X/UB...

   nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http:// 
www.cassiel.com


On 7-Jul-2006, at 11:41, Nick Rothwell (echoing Roald) wrote:

> On 6 Jul 2006, at 22:37, Peter Castine wrote:

There needed to be an elastic clause so that there would be seven 

categories. Seven. Not six. Not eight. Seven.

On 7-Jul-2006, at 11:41, Nick Rothwell (echoing Roald) wrote:
> And one you forgot:

May I remind you:
> On 6 Jul 2006, at 22:37, Peter Castine wrote:
>> - Something else

There needed to be an elastic clause so that there would be seven  
categories. Seven. Not six. Not eight. Seven.

On 7 Jul 2006, at 22:00, Peter Castine wrote:

> There needed to be an elastic clause so that there would be seven 

> categories. Seven. Not six. Not eight. Seven.

> There needed to be an elastic clause so that there would be seven  
> categories. Seven. Not six. Not eight. Seven.

Quote: Peter Castine wrote on Thu, 06 July 2006 14:37

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> On 6-Jul-2006, at 2:16, papermesh wrote:

> > Does the mac version contain more externals?

> The externals bundled with Max/MSP are identical. There are one or 

> two highly Mac-specific externals (like gestalt) but even they make a 

> concerted effort to behave as close to identically as possible on 

> 3rd party externals can be divided into seven classes:

> Many developers make the added effort to support both Mac and 

> Windows, but others either don't have a compelling motivation to do 

> so or do not have easy access to hardware for developing and testing 

> on the other OS. The number of Mac-only externals is comparatively 

> small and dwindling, but they do exist. As the above attests, even on 

> > Why can't some patches be opened on windows?

> If you can't even *open* the patch, then it's not a question of 

> externals. Patches with missing externals open alright, they just 

> Possible reasons a Mac OS-based patch might not open on Windows

> - It doesn't have the silly suffix (.mxt, .mxb, .pat)

> --> get StuffIt Expander and unstuff it

> --> get StuffIt Expander and un-BinHex it

> --> do something else, probably involving StuffIt Expander

> Peter Castine +--> Litter Power & Litter Bundle for Jitter

There was a loop tool that i wanted from one of the user pages and it wouldn't work on my pc.....so i finally emailed the programmer and he told me the the object didnt work in windows...i actually run into quite a few patches that dont work on windows..

Quote: Peter Castine wrote on Thu, 06 July 2006 14:37
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> On 6-Jul-2006, at 2:16, papermesh wrote:
> > Does the mac version contain more externals?
>
> The externals bundled with Max/MSP are identical. There are one or  
> two highly Mac-specific externals (like gestalt) but even they make a  
> concerted effort to behave as close to identically as possible on  
> both platforms.
>
> 3rd party externals can be divided into seven classes:
>
> - Available for both Mac OS and Window
> - Available for Windows only
> - Available for Mac OS only
> - Available for Mac OS, but only OS X
> - Available for Mac OS, but only up to OS 9
> - Available for Mac OS, but only 68k
> - Something else
>
> Many developers make the added effort to support both Mac and  
> Windows, but others either don't have a compelling motivation to do  
> so or do not have easy access to hardware for developing and testing  
> on the other OS. The number of Mac-only externals is comparatively  
> small and dwindling, but they do exist. As the above attests, even on  
> Mac OS there can be gotchas.
>
> >   Why can't some patches be opened on windows?
>
> If you can't even *open* the patch, then it's not a question of  
> externals. Patches with missing externals open alright, they just  
> generate error messages.
>
> Possible reasons a Mac OS-based patch might not open on Windows
>
> - It doesn't have the silly suffix (.mxt, .mxb, .pat)
>    --> add the silly suffix
> - It was archived in StuffIt format
>    --> get StuffIt Expander and unstuff it
> - It was encoded in BinHex format
>    --> get StuffIt Expander and un-BinHex it
> - Something else
>    --> do something else, probably involving StuffIt Expander
>
> HtH -- P.
>
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There was a loop tool that i wanted from one of the user pages and it wouldn't work on my pc.....so i finally emailed the programmer and he told me the the object didnt work in windows...i actually run into quite a few patches that dont work on windows..


Mac vs Pc Version