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I'm trying to build a very simple 16 step sequencer using the multi-slider that triggers bangs on the startloop message of the groove~ object.

This should be very simple, I just want it to trigger anything that is higher that 0. The only problem is that each individual slider outputs many bangs at machine guns speed. So one of the things I did was to connect it to a counter object (that was set up to output a bang after N times). This enabled me to know that approx. 8 bangs for each sliders were being output. But with this set up there were major timming issues.

The other thing that I tried was to us a select with >=1, hooked up to a toggle object. But even though you see on and off's being triggered at normal speed, you still get the machine gun speed triggering on the start loop message.

Why is this? And does anyone suggest I do, I'm a little out of ideas.

I'm trying to build a very simple 16 step sequencer using the multi-slider that triggers bangs on the startloop message of the groove~ object. 

This should be very simple, I just want it to trigger anything that is higher that 0. The only problem is that each individual slider  outputs many bangs at machine guns speed.  So one of the things I did was to connect it to a counter object (that was set up to output a bang after N times). This enabled me to know that  approx. 8 bangs for each sliders  were being output. But with this set up there were major timming issues. 

Why is this? And does anyone suggest I do, I'm a little out of ideas. 

machine-gun-bangs-from-multislider

if i understand you correctly, speedlim or thresh may help you out.

I forgot to mention that I was using the [zl nth] object to extract to list from the multi-slider.

Sorry 
I forgot to mention that I was using the [zl nth] object to extract to list from the multi-slider. 

Thanks for suggesting the speedlim and thresh, but these don't seem to work for my problem.

Hi robtherich
Thanks for suggesting the speedlim and thresh, but these don't seem to work for my problem.

I have a simple example that illustrates one way to pull things out 

of a multislider based on a counter and metro, called Multislider 

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I have a simple example that illustrates one way to pull things out 
of a multislider based on a counter and metro, called Multislider 
Iterate. It can be found here: http://www.xfade.com/max/examples

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could you send the patch in text format and ill have a look???

> Subject: [maxmsp] machine gun bangs from multislider

> I'm trying to build a very simple 16 step sequencer using the multi-slider that triggers bangs on the startloop message of the groove~ object. 

> This should be very simple, I just want it to trigger anything that is higher that 0. The only problem is that each individual slider outputs many bangs at machine guns speed. So one of the things I did was to connect it to a counter object (that was set up to output a bang after N times). This enabled me to know that approx. 8 bangs for each sliders were being output. But with this set up there were major timming issues. 

> The other thing that I tried was to us a select with >=1, hooked up to a toggle object. But even though you see on and off's being triggered at normal speed, you still get the machine gun speed triggering on the start loop message.

> Why is this? And does anyone suggest I do, I'm a little out of ideas. 

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> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:51:26 -0700
> From: philippehughes@hotmail.com
> Subject: [maxmsp] machine gun bangs from multislider
>
>
> Hi 
>
> I'm trying to build a very simple 16 step sequencer using the multi-slider that triggers bangs on the startloop message of the groove~ object. 
>
> This should be very simple, I just want it to trigger anything that is higher that 0. The only problem is that each individual slider  outputs many bangs at machine guns speed.  So one of the things I did was to connect it to a counter object (that was set up to output a bang after N times). This enabled me to know that  approx. 8 bangs for each sliders  were being output. But with this set up there were major timming issues. 
>
> The other thing that I tried was to us a select with >=1, hooked up to a toggle object. But even though you see on and off's being triggered at normal speed, you still get the machine gun speed triggering on the start loop message.
>
> Why is this? And does anyone suggest I do, I'm a little out of ideas. 
>
> Thanks a million 
>
>
> phil

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I did post my patch in text format. It's in my response at 17:48.

As I mentioned in that same post, I forgot to include in my 1st message that I was using the zl nth object to extract the list from the muli-slider.

Now I will try chris muir's approach using the counter object and see what comes up.

I did post my patch in text format. It's in my response at 17:48.
Thanks for your efforts.

As I mentioned in that same post, I forgot to include in my 1st message that I was using the zl nth object to extract the list from the muli-slider. 

Now I will try chris muir's approach using the counter object and see what comes up. 

Quote: philippehughes@hotmail.com wrote on Sun, 11 November 2007 18:23

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> Thanks for suggesting the speedlim and thresh, but these don't seem to work for my problem.

There's a multislider-based drum machine in the CNMAT mmj depot. Look in /modules/mz.toys

http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/MAX/downloads/

Quote: philippehughes@hotmail.com wrote on Sun, 11 November 2007 18:23
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> Hi robtherich
> Thanks for suggesting the speedlim and thresh, but these don't seem to work for my problem.
>
> Any other suggestions 
>
> thanks again
>
> phil
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There's a multislider-based drum machine in the CNMAT mmj depot.  Look in /modules/mz.toys

> There's a multislider-based drum machine in the CNMAT mmj depot.

How to look in /modules/mz.toys if there is no complete link on the site?

"CNMAT Max/MSP/Jitter Depot Coming Soon!" (yes, I deleted my cache...)

Maybe a direct link could lead us there?...

I am very curious about the depot since quite a while now but...

mzed schrieb:
> There's a multislider-based drum machine in the CNMAT mmj depot.
> Look in /modules/mz.toys
>
> http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/MAX/downloads/

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Since my 1st post from this thread, I've tried a few options. 

THe first is using zl nth/line/multislider to metro/startloop/groove~. 

This is fine for when you have many sliders say 256. But I've come to realize that machine gun bang come from the line object bang out the multislider values.

THe second option come from chris muir's multislider iterate patch. 

Which uses metro/counter/prepend fetch/multi. 

this approach is more accurate for 16 step slider. But is a little wierd with 256 sliders. It's like counter is sort of lazy.

Since my 1st post from this thread, I've tried a few options. 
THe first is using zl nth/line/multislider to metro/startloop/groove~. 
This is fine for when you have many sliders say 256. But I've come to realize that machine gun bang come from the line object bang out the multislider values. 

THe second option come from chris muir's multislider iterate patch. 
Which uses metro/counter/prepend fetch/multi. 
this approach is more accurate for 16 step slider. But is a little wierd with 256 sliders. It's like counter is sort of lazy.