T Bruce

Well, I've spent 2 or 3 hours on this, and can't seem to sort it out.

I would like to set up a preset hierarchy that allows a master preset to contain a group sub presets.

I have already created an auto harmonizing system for 3 chord types and 12 keys, with the sub presets controlling the chord voicing, and the master preset controlling everything else in a big master patcher.

I would like each master preset to be able to select a new set of 36 chord voicings.

I am currently using the pattr system for the master presets, and a Preset object for the 36 chord voicings. Obviously the Preset object is not addressable by the pattr system, so I am stuck with a single set of 36 chord voicings.

Is there some way to get a different set of 36 chord voicing presets for each master pattr preset?

I would like to set up a preset hierarchy that allows a master preset to contain a group sub presets.
i.e
master preset 1 contains
  sub presets 1-36
master preset 2 contains
  sub presets 1-36 with different data

Is there some way to get a different set of 36 chord voicing presets for each master pattr preset?


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i remember there being a thread on this not so long ago-- maybe 3-4 months ago? try searching the forums; using google is usually more productive than the c74 search function.

btw the pattr system does work with the preset object


Thanks for the response. I'll check out Google. I know you can use a preset object as a store and recall interface for a pattrstorage object by assigning the pattrstorgae object in the preset object's patterstorage attribute, but I don't believe you can store multiple banks of presets in a preset object through the use of a pattrstorage object. As far as I can tell it's just the opposite of what I want. You can control certain functions of the pattr system with a preset object, but a preset object will not show up in a pattrstorage client list. Or..hopefully...I'm full of it, and there is a way.

I found one discussion with RajaTheResidentPoser. It seems that the original poster is looking for what I am, but Raja responded with a solution to a different need. Raja used the pattr system to store the states of number boxes that then select presets in multiple preset objects, which does in a way give you a master preset of multiple sub presets, but it only selects from the presets that already exist in the preset objects, pattrstorage does not store anything but the number boxes that select the already existing presets in the preset objects.

What I would like is to have multiple master presets that contain the same 36 sub presets, but the sub presets can be have different data in them for each master preset.

I'm starting get the feeling that I will need to have 36 unique preset numbers for each master preset and then use the master preset to create an offset, so that in effect I get 36 unique sub presets for each master.

So, 256 master presets times 36 sub presets is 9216 presets. The preset object seems to give out at 2048 presets, so, I guess I'm looking at changing over to a pattrstorage solution, which will require saving to a disc file every time I edit. Not pretty, but I'm not seeing any other solution.

saving to disk is no major issue, by the way - it can be done in the background.

I ended up doing this with multiple preset objects. It required less recoding than switching over to pattrstorage. The patch is not really functional. It's just a test to work out the multiple preset object implementation. I've included it here, just to be somewhat thorough.

That's very clever, using a negative preset number.

Thanks, It really just came about by throwing the math together, and then "preset" is amiable enough to ignore invalid preset numbers. That way I didn't have to do a lot of preconditioning, and it came together pretty quickly. Will be building it into the big master system patcher tonight. Lot's of repetitive iterations. i.e. five strings, 2 harmonizers per string, 3 separate synth channels, so 30 installations before I'm done. Wish me luck.

master presets containing 36 sub presets