Mathematical ability/knowledge and Max
Sep 24, 2012 at 2:20pm
Mathematical ability/knowledge and MaxI’ve been thinking about this for a while and would be interested in hearing others’ opinions on the subject. How important do people think mathematical ability is for working in Max? Beyond add/subtract/multiply/divide, my math skills pretty much don’t exist, so I avoid objects like expr and % entirely because I don’t understand what they do, and I’m starting to think it’s stopping me making better/more efficient patches. What does everyone else think? Is it important to understand objects like expr etc? 

Sep 24, 2012 at 3:21pm
> so I avoid objects like expr and % entirely because I don’t understand what they do, and I’m starting to think it’s stopping me making better/more efficient patches. Yes it does. My math isn’t great either, even though I took math in highschool, but I’ve found digging into math issues in Max development context a great way to refresh or expand my skills. Especially in my late high school years I lost attention for it but I’ve now been encountering lots of the stuff I skipped on back then and find them easy to pick up just because now they’re linked to practical issues, which I was totally missing in theory classes. The internet is full of resources to dig into. I usually need that math in openGL context. 

Sep 24, 2012 at 4:31pm
you dont NNED it, but maybe some day you suddenly fee it could be cool. have you, for example, looked at the helpfile for % ? expressions also also very useful. try start using it for +*/ at first. it makes patches smaller can you say [expr $f1+$f2$f3] ? 110 

Sep 25, 2012 at 7:47am
you can get very far if just know how proportional things are calculated. you can break every complex algorithm down into simple calculations. i would say.O. 

Sep 25, 2012 at 9:24am
Hi Like a visitor to a foreign country, you can learn the language first, or (as I do) struggle initially and then learn more the longer you stay! Brendan 

Sep 25, 2012 at 3:01pm
See also: http://www.cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=34262 And as always, see Peter Elsea’s invaluable Max Tutorials, where you’ll find a cheerful little piece called “Befriending Math” – the last page is particularly useful. http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/links/goto/1319/90/links_weblink I keep going back to my school books trying to pick up where I left off 30something years ago, in the hope that I’ll one day be able to get more out of books like Dave Benson’s ‘Music – A Mathematical Offering’ http://homepages.abdn.ac.uk/mth192/pages/html/mathsmusic.html Pay more attention at school, kids – one day your brain will be mush and it will interfere with your Maxing… 

Sep 25, 2012 at 3:28pm
I’ve found http://www.khanacademy.org/ math programs invaluable while learning programming. Excellent video tutorials with great instructors. Go the extra mile and work through the problems on your own with a pen & pad to get the most out of each video. 

Sep 26, 2012 at 8:33am
@Roman – I have looked at the help file, but I still don’t really understand it. I find that a lot of objects in Max 6 (math objects mostly) assume knowledge of equations, functions etc. I appreciate they can’t spell it all out (because where would it end, right?) but that’s partly why I avoid those objects. Looks like a read of that Befriending Math paper is a good idea. The math anxiety scenario seems applicable to my past experience! 

Sep 26, 2012 at 1:23pm
% is 3rd grade arithmetic. “If Johnny has 7 cookies and wants to share them equally with Billy and Jimmy, how many does each get? Answer: Two each, with one left over.” With integers: I have never understood what people find hard about that, but apparently a lot of people do. And it’s dead useful. 

Sep 26, 2012 at 2:15pm
Hi, i think [expr] syntax is sometimes scary even if you understand math implied : [expr pow($f1,2)] is not really intuitive ;) 
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