anthonysaunders

max-5-details-at-nime

Yes, yes! Please, more details. Anybody know anything they're not under NDA to keep under wraps?

Yeah! And does Max 5 imply Jitter 2? And does that imply better

Yeah!  And does Max 5 imply Jitter 2?  And does that imply better
recording for gl?

the blog post implies (intentionally or not) that it's not NDA'ed

information... the anticipation is killing me.

the blog post implies (intentionally or not) that it's not NDA'ed
information... the anticipation is killing me.

Jitter 2 is scheduled for a point in time after the release of Max 5. 

How large do you think the development team is, actually? ;)

Jitter 2 is scheduled for a point in time after the release of Max 5.  
How large do you think the development team is, actually? ;)

Good point. Just consider our lust new products as a sign of our

appreciation for the small, yet efficient development team.

Good point.  Just consider our lust new products as a sign of our
appreciation for the small, yet efficient development team.


>> Jitter 2 is scheduled for a point in time after the release of Max 5.

>> How large do you think the development team is, actually? ;)

It's always been my belief that the C74 team is tiny, massively 

dedicated (massively parallel?), and never goes to bed. And they 

programme in a fine wine and scotch induced haze, along with gourmet 

dishes they prepare in their own kitchenettes next to their computers.

Of course, I could be wrong about some of that.

> On 6/14/07, Jeremy Bernstein  wrote:
>> Jitter 2 is scheduled for a point in time after the release of Max 5.
>> How large do you think the development team is, actually? ;)

It's always been my belief that the C74 team is tiny, massively  
dedicated (massively parallel?), and never goes to bed. And they  
programme in a fine wine and scotch induced haze, along with gourmet  
dishes they prepare in their own kitchenettes next to their computers.

You wouldnt happen to know of those released details would you? 

Should we be expecting an update on C74s site now that the 'cat' is 

out of the proverbial bag, or will we have to resort to begging and 

You wouldnt happen to know of those released details would you?  
Should we be expecting an update on C74s site now that the 'cat' is  
out of the proverbial bag, or will we have to resort to begging and  
pleading and acting quite uncivilized?

"Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane."

"Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane."
Philip K. Dick


You mean, if I know what they showed at NIME? I wasn't there, 

choosing instead to deploy Max-based sound weaponry against the 

forces of globalization at Heiligendamm. I guess they showed what we 

have at this point. You should ask Tim or Ben if you really need to 

You mean, if I know what they showed at NIME? I wasn't there,  
choosing instead to deploy Max-based sound weaponry against the  
forces of globalization at Heiligendamm. I guess they showed what we  
have at this point. You should ask Tim or Ben if you really need to  
know, since they were there.

Okay, I confess to being there. But I didn't take anything like 

careful notes, or even see all of the demos. So consider this a 

random and tiny and possibly error-ridden subset of the many new 

Max 5 looks great. New antialiased, resolution-independent 

interface, new cross-platform compositing technology in the patcher. 

I think they did a great job keeping it simple, actually using the 

redesign to improve the readability of patches and not adding eye candy.

New distinction between "hot" and "cold" inlets. This will help 

people learn Max and see at a glance which inlets generate output.

You can maintain multiple viewing modes for your patch, for 

development and performance for example. I think that hiding, 

resizing and repositioning objects are allowed between different 

modes. Like show and hide on lock but very generalized, so I imagine 

Many many improvements to patching interface like object name 

autocomplete, auto clean, auto connect solutions.

Better working and better looking debug (tracing) support.

A super cool and general purpose replacement for timeline-- think 

A cross platform media browser window which looked like it could be 

That's really all I can remember. Hope it helps.

Okay, I confess to being there.  But I didn't take anything like  
careful notes, or even see all of the demos.  So consider this a  
random and tiny and possibly error-ridden subset of the many new  
features.

Max 5 looks great.  New antialiased, resolution-independent  
interface, new cross-platform compositing technology in the patcher.   
I think they did a great job keeping it simple, actually using the  
redesign to improve the readability of patches and not adding eye candy.
New distinction between "hot" and "cold" inlets. This will help  
people learn Max and see at a glance which inlets generate output.
You can maintain multiple viewing modes for your patch, for  
development and performance for example.  I think that hiding,  
resizing and repositioning objects are allowed between different  
modes.  Like show and hide on lock but very generalized, so I imagine  
it supersedes that feature.
Many many improvements to patching interface like object name  
autocomplete, auto clean, auto connect solutions.
Better working and better looking debug (tracing) support.
A super cool and general purpose replacement for timeline-- think  
Time Machine.
A cross platform media browser window which looked like it could be  
the start of Max as Finder.

That's really all I can remember.  Hope it helps.

aaaaah, thank you. The timeline replacement and improved interface sound great!

What! Why did you not pay more attention, and take photos, 

and make sketches on napkins. Can someone give us some official 

details? All this talk has me feverish with anticipation...

What! Why did you not pay more attention, and take photos, 
and make sketches on napkins. Can someone give us some official 
details? All this talk has me feverish with anticipation...


The software is not done yet. The presentation was a work-in-progress 

demonstration of a few new features (principally user experience 

features) and the new UI. To the best of my knowledge, there will be 

no official details until we're done writing the software to be 

detailed. Sorry, I know that sucks, but that's just how it is until 

The software is not done yet. The presentation was a work-in-progress  
demonstration of a few new features (principally user experience  
features) and the new UI. To the best of my knowledge, there will be  
no official details until we're done writing the software to be  
detailed. Sorry, I know that sucks, but that's just how it is until  
we're closer to release.

> That's really all I can remember. Hope it helps.

Does it help to get over excited ? Oh yes !...

> That's really all I can remember.  Hope it helps.

Thanks. Those developments sound awesome. I eagerly await more info, 

now the rest of those C74 elves, back to coding!

Thanks. Those developments sound awesome. I eagerly await more info,  
now the rest of those C74 elves, back to coding!

600-700 USD, and the copy protection will

require to stay connecteed to the internet

MaxMSP v 5.0 for Mac OS 9 will be available 

in october 2008 with the OS X version to follow

a windows version is currently not planned.

MaxMSP v 5.0 will be exclusively distributed 

MaxMSP v 5.0 will support the Mac OS X 
"aqua" interface across all objetcs and
the boxed version will include a bicyle.

the price for the update will be around 
600-700 USD, and the copy protection will
require to stay connecteed to the internet
when you use the program.

MaxMSP v 5.0 for Mac OS 9 will be available 
in october 2008 with the OS X version to follow
soon. 
a windows version is currently not planned.

MaxMSP v 5.0 will be exclusively distributed 
by NN at www.maxmemfuck55.org

> programme in a fine wine and scotch induced haze

Bourbon. Knob Creek or Booker's, preferably.

> ...and they  
> programme in a fine wine and scotch induced haze

Bourbon. Knob Creek or Booker's, preferably.


Please don't forget to support two-bytes character languages!

We are lusting for it for a long long time.

Please don't forget to support two-bytes character languages!
We are lusting for it for a long long time.

> Please don't forget to support two-bytes character languages!

> We are lusting for it for a long long time.

> On 2007/06/15, at 9:24, Gregory Taylor wrote:

> >> programme in a fine wine and scotch induced haze

> > Bourbon. Knob Creek or Booker's, preferably.

> > knowledge is not enough/science is not enough/Love is dreaming this

On 6/14/07, Masayuki Akamatsu  wrote:
> Dear Max 5 team,
>
> Please don't forget to support two-bytes character languages!
> We are lusting for it for a long long time.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Masayuki Akamatsu
>
> On 2007/06/15, at 9:24, Gregory Taylor wrote:
>
> >
> >> ...and they
> >> programme in a fine wine and scotch induced haze
> >
> > Bourbon. Knob Creek or Booker's, preferably.
> > --
> > knowledge is not enough/science is not enough/Love is dreaming this
> > equation
>
>
>


one important thing you didn't talked about, Randy, is the new poly~ 

feature. (its't probably the only msp object that will change in max 5)

--> new parallel mode = multiprocessor support ! (if understood well, 

poly~ will be the only way to split msp thread between several 

- a file browser with a great search function (all files in the path 

- new inspectors for all objects (where it's posible to set 

- a new (reaktor like) "performance" view (don't remember if it's 

called like that..) where user can display only a selection of 

- and a new "automatic debug, optimize, and prevent from crashing" 

button (...maybe I only dreamed of this one...)

All I've seen looks really great, and is very exiting ! not only GUI 

stuff, all those new features will really make patching easier and 

I hope I didn't revealed any top secret features... it was a public 

keep on the great work, cycling'74 team !

I was at NIME too...
(sorry, didn't take any photos...)

one important thing you didn't talked about, Randy, is the new poly~  
feature. (its't probably the only msp object that will change in max 5)
--> new parallel mode = multiprocessor support ! (if understood well,  
poly~ will be the only way to split msp thread between several  
processors / cores)

I also remember :
- zoom in / out in the patcher
- a web browser inside max
- a file browser with a great search function (all files in the path  
are in a database)
- new inspectors for all objects (where it's posible to set  
attributes too)
- a new (reaktor like) "performance" view (don't remember if it's  
called like that..) where user can display only a selection of  
objects (at a custom position and size)
- new transparent JSUI
- and a new "automatic debug, optimize, and prevent from crashing"  
button (...maybe I only dreamed of this one...)
...

All I've seen looks really great, and is very exiting ! not only GUI  
stuff, all those new features will really make patching easier and  
faster (and look better !)

I hope I didn't revealed any top secret features... it was a public  
presentation, right ?... :-s

www.maxobjects.com
http://mathieu.chamagne.free.fr

> - a file browser with a great search function (all files in the 

> - new inspectors for all objects (where it's posible to set 

> - a new (reaktor like) "performance" view (don't remember if it's 

> called like that..) where user can display only a selection of 

> objects (at a custom position and size)

> - and a new "automatic debug, optimize, and prevent from crashing" 

> button (...maybe I only dreamed of this one...)

+ keyboard shortcuts for new object-, message- and number-boxes - 

> I also remember :
> - zoom in / out in the patcher
> - a web browser inside max
> - a file browser with a great search function (all files in the  
> path are in a database)
> - new inspectors for all objects (where it's posible to set  
> attributes too)
> - a new (reaktor like) "performance" view (don't remember if it's  
> called like that..) where user can display only a selection of  
> objects (at a custom position and size)
> - new transparent JSUI
> - and a new "automatic debug, optimize, and prevent from crashing"  
> button (...maybe I only dreamed of this one...)

+ multiple undos - juhu!
+ keyboard shortcuts for new object-, message- and number-boxes -  
juhuhuhu!

Quote: Roman Thilenius wrote on Fri, 15 June 2007 01:41

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> MaxMSP v 5.0 will be exclusively distributed 

Quote: Roman Thilenius wrote on Fri, 15 June 2007 01:41
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> MaxMSP v 5.0 will be exclusively distributed 
> by NN at www.maxmemfuck55.org
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Quote: Anthony Palomba wrote on Fri, 15 June 2007 10:32

> I hope they have time to fix vst~ while they are at it.

Quote: Anthony Palomba wrote on Fri, 15 June 2007 10:32
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> I hope they have time to fix vst~ while they are at it.
>
>
>
> Anthony
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On Jun 15, 2007, at 5:05 AM, mathieu.chamagne@gmail.com wrote:

(if understood well, poly~ will be the only way to split msp thread 

And I know not if, save in this, such gift be allowed to man,

That out of three sounds he frame, not a fourth sound, but a star.

(if understood well, poly~ will be the only way to split msp thread  
between several processors / cores)

--
barry threw
composition : sound : programming
http://www.barrythrew.com
bthrew(at)gmail(dot)com
857-544-3967

And I know not if, save in this, such gift be allowed to man,
That out of three sounds he frame, not a fourth sound, but a star.
-Robert Browning

I'll see your Booker's, but raise you a single malt Islay.

On Jun 14, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Gregory Taylor wrote:

>> programme in a fine wine and scotch induced haze

> Bourbon. Knob Creek or Booker's, preferably.

> knowledge is not enough/science is not enough/Love is dreaming this 

>
>> ...and they
>> programme in a fine wine and scotch induced haze
>
> Bourbon. Knob Creek or Booker's, preferably.
> --
> knowledge is not enough/science is not enough/Love is dreaming this  
> equation

barry threw
composition : sound : programming
http://www.barrythrew.com
bthrew(at)gmail(dot)com
857-544-3967

> Quote: Roman Thilenius wrote on Fri, 15 June 2007 01:41

> ----------------------------------------------------

>> MaxMSP v 5.0 will be exclusively distributed 

> don't mention the name of NN in vain ;)

If it would be connected to her, the link would have been 

Vjeran Salamon schrieb:
> Quote: Roman Thilenius wrote on Fri, 15 June 2007 01:41
> ----------------------------------------------------
>> MaxMSP v 5.0 will be exclusively distributed 
>> by NN at www.maxmemfuck55.org
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> don't mention the name of NN in vain ;)

If it would be connected to her, the link would have been 
www.maxm!ndfck+0.55.org...

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Max 5 Details at NIME?