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					<title><![CDATA[Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Ben Bracken</dc:creator>

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						<p>Today we&#8217;re excited to release Max 6.1. You can download it from <a href="http://cycling74.com/downloads/" rel="nofollow">http://cycling74.com/downloads/</a> to check out these new features:</p>
<p>64bit application:<br />
        + Use more than 4GB RAM<br />
        + Use high precision 64bit numbers in Max messages<br />
        + Load 64bit Audio Unit and VST plugins</p>
<p>Live 9 support:<br />
        + New devices<br />
        + New Live API features<br />
        + Performance and stability improvements</p>
<p>New Gen Features:<br />
        + Integrated operator reference<br />
        + New operators and expression features<br />
        + (Beta) Export Gen code to C++ (gen~) or GLSL (jit.gl.pix)</p>
<p>Performance Improvements:<br />
        + Faster application launch<br />
        + Faster patcher load time<br />
        + General optimizations</p>
<p>Complete Max 6.1.0 release notes are available at <a href="http://cycling74.s3.amazonaws.com/support/version_6_1_0.html" rel="nofollow">http://cycling74.s3.amazonaws.com/support/version_6_1_0.html</a>, and  more discussion about what these features represent follows.</p>
<p>64bit:</p>
<p>64bit application support is a big deal, and given how long Max has been under development in a 32bit world, it was no easy feat. Thank you all for your patience as we&#8217;ve worked to make this happen. 64bit applications allow users to take advantage of a much larger memory space and hence more than the ~4GB of RAM we are limited to under 32bit. We&#8217;ve also been able to make infrastructural changes to support 64bit numbers when passed via Max messages for higher precision calculations. These two things are features you have been requesting in Max for years, and finally those features are here.</p>
<p>However, we&#8217;d like to balance expectations here. Since this is our first 64bit release, we will not have all of the features of the 32bit version, especially regarding Jitter and QuickTime support. QuickTime is simply not available on Windows under 64bit, where we will rely on DirectShow for movie playback (to playback QuickTime files you will need a third party plugin for DirectShow). Apple&#8217;s QTKit API on Macintosh 64bit has fewer features than the 32bit version of QuickTime, and requires a dramatic rewrite of our code base. We&#8217;ve only implemented the most basic of functionality for movie playback at this time on both platforms. We will be continuing to work on Jitter video playback and other QT features in the 64bit version, but many features are not present and may not make it to the 64bit version ever.</p>
<p>Max and MSP should have nearly all the same features, except where it relies on QuickTime (e.g. PICT files are not currently supported under 64bit and instead we recommend converting to PNG or JPG). However, 3rd party developers will need to port their objects to 64bit for them to be able to run inside the 64bit version of Max. There is no loading of 32bit externals in 64bit version of Max.</p>
<p>We will be providing an SDK for 3rd party developers in the coming days, but it will likely take some time before any particular 3rd party external will be available to use. We would recommend that if you do want to use the 64bit version and you have 3rd party dependencies that you see if you can remove these dependencies by using core objects or abstractions to replace these dependencies, until your favorite 3rd party object is available.</p>
<p>On Macintosh, the application comes as a single FAT bundle, by default set to run in 32bit mode. To run in 64bit mode, select the application and &#8220;Get Info&#8221; from the finder. In the &#8220;General&#8221; tab there should be a check box which says &#8220;Open in 32-bit mode&#8221;. You can turn this off to run in 64bit. If you want to keep separate 32bit and 64bit versions, you can duplicate your max folder, select one of the applications and set it to run in 64bit as described. Externals are also FAT bundles&#8211;i.e. contain both 32 and 64bit code.</p>
<p>On Windows, there are separate 32bit and 64bit installers and applications, and externals are in separate .mxe (32bit) and .mxe64 files.</p>
<p>Live 9:</p>
<p>Max for Live users will need to use Live 9 in conjunction with Max 6.1. Live 9 will be released on March 5th, and as you may have heard, Max for Live is now included in the Live Suite bundle. The factory content will look a little different than in previous versions and you will need to download and install the appropriate live packs for the content which previously was installed by default. In addition to the exciting features of Live 9, there are some great new devices in Max for Live, especially the drum synths and convolution reverb, but I will recommend you go to the Ableton.com website for more information regarding Live 9 and Max for Live.</p>
<p>New Gen features:</p>
<p>Gen has some significant additions and improvements in this release. Gen now has an integrated operator reference in the side bar to make learning and discovery easier than in previous releases. The operator set has grown, and the GenExpr language now supports recursive functions (for CPU, not GPU targets), calling gen patchers as functions, and defining functions with named parameters. But most exciting in this release is that we have a beta version of code export. This means that you can take your gen~ patchers and export them to C++ code and your jit.gl.pix objects and export them to GLSL code. This feature only has limited support in our initial Max 6.1 release, but over the coming months, we will be working to improve the generated code, template examples, and documentation to make this feature useful for those of you who have been waiting for this capability. Note that the code export feature will assume that you are familiar with C++ and working with a development IDE like XCode or Visual Studio. We will be adding more code export examples and documentation in the WIKI at <a href="http://cycling74.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Gen_Code_Export" rel="nofollow">http://cycling74.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Gen_Code_Export</a></p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>joshua goldberg</dc:creator>

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						<p>Awesome job, guys.  Thank you.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>

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						<p>Ditto! Thanks, folks!</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Anthony Palomba</dc:creator>

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						<p>Bravo! BRAVO!!</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 06:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Rodrigo</dc:creator>

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						<p>Awesome!</p>
<p>A naive question since I don&#8217;t know much about 32/64bit stuff. Will &#8216;old&#8217; externals not work with 6.1 until they are updated?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>They will work in the 32 bit version of Max 6.1, but they will require updating to work in the 64 bit version of 6.1</p>
<p>-A</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Rodrigo</dc:creator>

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						<p>I&#8217;ve not downloaded/installed it yet, but does that mean there are two runnable versions of 6.1?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 08:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Siska Ádám</dc:creator>

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						<p>@Rodrigo: Please read the initial announcement, as the answers for all of your questions (at least, so far) are included there:</p>
<blockquote><p>
We will be providing an SDK for 3rd party developers in the coming days, but it will likely take some time before any particular 3rd party external will be available to use. We would recommend that if you do want to use the 64bit version and you have 3rd party dependencies that you see if you can remove these dependencies by using core objects or abstractions to replace these dependencies, until your favorite 3rd party object is available.</p>
<p>On Macintosh, the application comes as a single FAT bundle, by default set to run in 32bit mode. To run in 64bit mode, select the application and &#8220;Get Info&#8221; from the finder. In the &#8220;General&#8221; tab there should be a check box which says &#8220;Open in 32-bit mode&#8221;. You can turn this off to run in 64bit. If you want to keep separate 32bit and 64bit versions, you can duplicate your max folder, select one of the applications and set it to run in 64bit as described. Externals are also FAT bundles&#8211;i.e. contain both 32 and 64bit code.</p>
<p>On Windows, there are separate 32bit and 64bit installers and applications, and externals are in separate .mxe (32bit) and .mxe64 files.
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<p>Hope that helps,<br />
Ádám</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 08:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>FineCutBodies</dc:creator>

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						<p>thanx guys, </p>
<p>&#8220;On Windows, there are separate 32bit and 64bit installers and applications, and externals are in separate .mxe (32bit) and .mxe64 files. &#8220;</p>
<p>does it mean i can install both x32 and x64 in separate folders and they will work perfectly separated if i start one of them?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Rodrigo</dc:creator>

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						<p>@Siska<br />
Thanks. I skimmed the (long) release notes. I&#8217;ll update to 6.1 now and cross my fingers waiting for 64bit externals, just like everyone else.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vichug</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hey, super update and all (gen code export waw), but i need a naive clarification : does a 64 bit app mean that it will run faster on a 64 bit os ? Does it have anything to do regarding multicore processing ?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Emmanuel Jourdan</dc:creator>

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						<p>@wichug 64 bit app means that it can use more memory (theoretically up to 16 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exabyte">exabytes</a>). So you&#8217;ll be able to use huge buffer~/delay lines, larger matrices, bigger patches&#8230;</p>
<p>See the <a href="http://cycling74.com/2013/03/04/announcing-max-6-1/">Joshua&#8217;s blog post</a> for more infos.</p>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>kp*</dc:creator>

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						<p>Faster application launch!!! Yay!</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Francois Weber</dc:creator>

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						<p>jit.qt.movie bug ?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Francois Weber</dc:creator>

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						<p>&#8220;jit.qt.movie bug ?&#8221;</p>
<p>OSX 10.8.2<br />
Max 6.1 &#8211; 64b</p>
<p>thank&#8217;s for Max 6.1 !</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vichug</dc:creator>

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						<p>is there a way to have the 6.1 overriding the 6.0.8 app, without creating a new folder ? i would like to avoid having to reinstall a lot of externals, and run the max 6.1 in 32bit for now. Would it do the trick to replace the max.app in the 6.0.8 folder with the max.app in the 6.1 folder ?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max 6.1 Released]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Joshua Kit Clayton</dc:creator>

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						<p><a href='http://cycling74.com/forums/users/francois/' rel='nofollow' class='bbp-mention-link francois'>@francois</a>: As mentioned in the announcement, jit.qt.movie and other Jitter QT features are severely limited at this time. For example there is not loadram or unloadram message support in 64bit, yet. If you are a Jitter user, you will likely want to remain using the 32bit version for quite some time. We&#8217;re working on it, but getting just to this point for 64bit support was a huge effort.</p>
<p>@ vichug: I don&#8217;t recommend doing this, but instead investigate the new &#8220;Packages&#8221; feature (see the readme in the Max/packages folder or the vignette in the Max documentation). However, on Macintosh, you might be able to simply rename the folder to Max 6.1 before installing. On windows, it&#8217;s more complicated but creating a folder directory with the same name as the Max 6.1 hierarchy, copying the contents of your 6.0.8 folder there, and then installing. Really though, packages, while still a manual process, are designed to make managing 3rd party externals easier. We hope to improve on this to make it even simper in the future.</p>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p><a href='http://cycling74.com/forums/users/finecutbodies/' rel='nofollow' class='bbp-mention-link FineCutBodies'>@FineCutBodies</a> Yes on Windows you can install 32bit and 64bit versions of Max 6.1 and they won&#8217;t interfere with each other.</p>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>thanx Josh!</p>
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						<p><a href='http://cycling74.com/forums/users/josh/' rel='nofollow' class='bbp-mention-link Josh'>@Josh</a> Thanks, so it seems package folders will make 3rd parties libraries installation significantly easier in the future ? In the meanwhile, their installation was done &#8216;ye olde way&#8217;, so it&#8217;s sparse in all of Max 6 subdirectories so i&#8217;m hesitating over waiting for &#8216;clean&#8217; versions of those libraries, or installing those the new way myself, or overriding the app, or renaming folder Max 6.1 and reinstalling (wouldn&#8217;t this, though, override 3rd parties in cycling &#8217;74/ and patches/ and java-doc/ and such ?)</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>Great work Cycling!</p>
<p>Just want to let you know that on my Macbook Pro (running OSX 10.8.2), after installing Max 6.1, I can&#8217;t get .maxpat files to open with 6.0.8 by default. Tried changing this the usual way via Get Info. No luck.</p>
<p>Anyone else seeing this behavior? Not critical, just a little inconvenient.</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>Reading the packages readme (and I can&#8217;t seem to find the vignette) but does this new packages structure work outside of the max search patch?</p>
<p>ie can I have a folder on my desktop, with my main patch in it, with a /packages folder inside that. Can Max 6.1 recognize it?</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>@Rodrigo it seems i can neither find the packages vignette</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Folders don&#8217;t seem to work anymore in the extras folder (or the packages folder if you have an extras folder inside your structure). That use to work with Max 6.08 and previous versions. </p>
<p>best,<br />
Nicolas</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>@rodrigo It won&#8217;t work on the Desktop, but you can use ~/Documents/Max/Packages. Looks like the vignette didn&#8217;t make it into the release. We&#8217;ll fix that.</p>
<p><a href='http://cycling74.com/forums/users/nnimar/' rel='nofollow' class='bbp-mention-link nnimar'>@nnimar</a> thanks for the extras folder report</p>
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