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Howdy folks. This maybe more of a logic 8 question, I hope ye don't mind! I've got Max to trigger sounds in Ultrabeat using noteout to send messages and scroll through its various sounds. Thats all lovely, but when I put another instrument in record enable it also triggers that instrument.

What I'd like to do is use different noteouts(or something else) to trigger each instrument individually. I've patched frommax1 and frommax2 in logics environment but to no avail. Has anybody any tips? I'm pretty new to this so apologies if it's a simple lack of understanding on my part.

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Are you transmitting and receiving specific channels? It sounds like something is possibly transmitting or receiving on all midi channels. Maybe Logic defaults to receiving on all midi channels? 

Are you transmitting and receiving specific channels?  It sounds like something is possibly transmitting or receiving on all midi channels.  Maybe Logic defaults to receiving on all midi channels?  


Logic does default to receiving on all MIDI channels for its soft synths. You'll need to go into Logic's Settings:Recording and check the "auto demix by channel" box in order to be able to address different soft synths in Logic via different MIDI channels. Note that even with this box checked, I've had mixed results sending MIDI from Max to Logic. Also, I haven't found a way to separate "from Max/MSP 1" from "from Max/MSP 2" in Logic 8. If anyone has a reliable solution for that, I'd love to hear about it!

Logic does default to receiving on all MIDI channels for its soft synths.  You'll need to go into Logic's Settings:Recording and check the "auto demix by channel" box in order to be able to address different soft synths in Logic via different MIDI channels.  Note that even with this box checked, I've had mixed results sending MIDI from Max to Logic.  Also, I haven't found a way to separate "from Max/MSP 1" from "from Max/MSP 2" in Logic 8.  If anyone has a reliable solution for that, I'd love to hear about it!

Thanks for the replies guys. I figured as much about Logics default. I'll try erichonours' solution now.

Eric - if you go into the environment window in logic and patch From1Max and FromMax2 to the sequencer input separately. Then disconnect the sum cable that might help with the ports. sflogicninja videos on youtube might have a better solution. Search for tip 3 midi inputs.

Thanks for the replies guys. I figured as much about Logics default. I'll try erichonours' solution now. 

Please let me know how you get on.
Regards
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Thank you EH this has taken me a little bit closer to my goal.

I should have been more clear about the "problem," I think. It's not really a problem, because I've worked around it successfully, but it's a little bit irritating. I can certainly use the Environment to process different physical/logical inputs separately or to handle routing (via bypassing the sequencer), if I choose. However, I haven't found a way to get Logic's sequencer input object to treat them separately. You can get Logic to deal with inputs on various MIDI channels via the "auto demix" thing I mentioned above, but as far as I can tell, the sequencer input object can't discriminate between input ports. If a message is sent on ch. 1 of "from max/msp 1" and a different one is sent on ch. 1 of "from max/msp 2," these look the same to the sequencer input object, even if the two input ports are connected to the object individually (not via SUM).

I should have been more clear about the "problem," I think.  It's not really a problem, because I've worked around it successfully, but it's a little bit irritating.  I can certainly use the Environment to process different physical/logical inputs separately or to handle routing (via bypassing the sequencer), if I choose.  However, I haven't found a way to get Logic's sequencer input object to treat them separately.  You can get Logic to deal with inputs on various MIDI channels via the "auto demix" thing I mentioned above, but as far as I can tell, the sequencer input object can't discriminate between input ports.  If a message is sent on ch. 1 of "from max/msp 1" and a different one is sent on ch. 1 of "from max/msp 2," these look the same to the sequencer input object, even if the two input ports are connected to the object individually (not via SUM).

Quote: erichonour wrote on Mon, 10 March 2008 05:25

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> as far as I can tell, the sequencer input object can't 

Correct. Logic MIDI tracks don't have selectable port sources, so once you hit the sequencer input, you have 16 channels and that's it. It's been a royal pain in the multi-controller multitimbral ass for years.

Quote: erichonour wrote on Mon, 10 March 2008 05:25
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> as far as I can tell, the sequencer input object can't 
> discriminate between input ports.

Correct. Logic MIDI tracks don't have selectable port sources, so once you hit the sequencer input, you have 16 channels and that's it. It's been a royal pain in the multi-controller multitimbral ass for years.


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