paulclift

Hmm for some reason my last post came up empty... is there a size limit on here?

Anyway, I have the message: 'freeobject: 10dbbxxxx: bad object' when I load the patch, and this crash log when I try to save (or do anything much with dsp objects)...

Path: /Applications/Max5/MaxMSP.app/Contents/MacOS/MaxMSP

Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 10330 sec

Anonymous UUID: 8830164E-D006-4467-A335-159345B3413C

Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000d55fbfff

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

0 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00064d8b outlet_int + 863

1 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000120cd max_dounicodekey(void*, void*, void*, void*, long, long, long, long) + 73

2 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0001240b max_unicodekeyup + 199

3 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x001ab4cb PatcherComponent::keyStateChangedFromContentComponent() + 201

4 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x001c0a62 PatcherContentComponent::keyStateChanged() + 20

5 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0039033c juce::ComponentPeer::handleKeyUpOrDown() + 128

6 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002d66d8 juce::HIViewComponentPeer::handleKeyEvent(OpaqueEventRef*, wchar_t) + 1098

7 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002d8cfb juce::HIViewComponentPeer::handleWindowEventForPeer(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*) + 339

8 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002d8d6b juce::HIViewComponentPeer::handleWindowEvent(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 65

9 com.apple.HIToolbox     0x933b9f2f DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1567

10 com.apple.HIToolbox     0x933b91f6 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 411

11 com.apple.HIToolbox     0x933b9055 SendEventToEventTargetWithOptions + 58

12 com.apple.HIToolbox     0x933ed797 ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 1957

13 com.apple.HIToolbox     0x933ba380 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 2672

14 com.apple.HIToolbox     0x933b91f6 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 411

15 com.apple.HIToolbox     0x933db9bb SendEventToEventTarget + 52

16 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002d1caa juce::juce_dispatchNextMessageOnSystemQueue(bool, bool) + 630

17 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002db907 juce::MessageManager::dispatchNextMessage(bool, bool*, bool) + 79

18 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002db9c6 juce::MessageManager::runDispatchLoop() + 42

19 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002da321 juce::JUCEApplication::main(juce::String&, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 605

20 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002da3fb juce::JUCEApplication::main(int, char**, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 125

21 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x001e3c5e main + 76

22 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0000569a _start + 216

23 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x000055c1 start + 41

Thread 1: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager

0 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940db942 kevent + 10

1 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940dc05c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215

2 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940db519 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163

3 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940db2be _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240

4 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940dad41 _pthread_wqthread + 390

5 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940dab86 start_wqthread + 30

0 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940b515a semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10

1 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940e2ca5 _pthread_cond_wait + 1066

2 libSystem.B.dylib     0x94111848 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47

3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x965ba3b5 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 242

4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x965ba0f3 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 511

5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore    0x965de34b TimerThread + 97

6 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940e281d _pthread_start + 345

7 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940e26a2 thread_start + 34

0 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940b50fa mach_msg_trap + 10

1 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940b5867 mach_msg + 68

2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI     0x0f5def31 XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 155

3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI     0x0f5fd8fe MIDIProcess::RunMIDIInThread() + 150

4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI     0x0f5e0149 XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17

5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI     0x0f5dfb16 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96

3 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002d10b4 juce::WaitableEvent::wait(int) const + 122

4 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0034e157 juce::Thread::wait(int) const + 27

5 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002dc9c4 juce::InternalTimerThread::run() + 310

6 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0034e1ea juce::Thread::threadEntryPoint(juce::Thread*) + 142

7 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002d118f juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 17

8 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940e281d _pthread_start + 345

9 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940e26a2 thread_start + 34

0 libSystem.B.dylib     0x9417c1b2 accept$NOCANCEL$UNIX2003 + 10

1 libSystem.B.dylib     0x9417b01a accept + 32

2 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x00392699 juce::StreamingSocket::waitForNextConnection() const + 257

3 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x002152cd tcpconnection_listenthread(_tcpconnection*) + 27

4 com.cycling74.MaxMSP     0x0006575e systhread_threadproc(void*) + 60

5 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940e281d _pthread_start + 345

6 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940e26a2 thread_start + 34

0 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940da9d2 __workq_kernreturn + 10

1 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940daf68 _pthread_wqthread + 941

2 libSystem.B.dylib     0x940dab86 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):

eax: 0xd55fbfff ebx: 0x00000000 ecx: 0x004948e8 edx: 0xbfffef6c

edi: 0x0f82dd18 esi: 0xbfff0002 ebp: 0xbfffef98 esp: 0xbfffef30

ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010282 eip: 0x00064d8b cs: 0x00000017

ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037

0x1000 - 0x468fe3 +com.cycling74.MaxMSP 5.1.6 (43950) (5.1.6) /Applications/Max5/MaxMSP.app/Contents/MacOS/MaxMSP

0xc83000 - 0xce8fcf +[Unknown Bundle] ??? (???) [Unknown Bundle]

0xdfb000 - 0xdfcff7 +com.cycling74.fseventwatcher 5.1.6 (43950) (43950) /Applications/Max5/Cycling '74/extensions/fseventwatcher.mxo/Contents/MacOS/fseventwatcher

0xf8b000 - 0xfb1ff7 +com.cycling74.MaxAPI 1.0 (1.0) /Applications/Max5/MaxMSP.app/Contents/Frameworks/MaxAPI.framework/MaxAPI

0xff6000 - 0xff9ffb +com.Logitech.Control Center.Scroll Enhancer Loader 3.1.0 (3.1.0) /Library/InputManagers/LCC Scroll Enhancer Loader/LCC Scroll Enhancer Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/LCC Scroll Enhancer Loader

Hmm for some reason my last post came up empty... is there a size limit on here? 

Process:         MaxMSP [11457]
Path:            /Applications/Max5/MaxMSP.app/Contents/MacOS/MaxMSP
Identifier:      com.cycling74.MaxMSP
Version:         5.1.6 (43950) (5.1.6)
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [122]

Date/Time:       2010-11-26 04:03:07.839 -0500
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.6.4 (10F569)
Report Version:  6

Interval Since Last Report:          29674 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           31
Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  10330 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   14
Anonymous UUID:                      8830164E-D006-4467-A335-159345B3413C

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000d55fbfff
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00064d8b outlet_int + 863
1   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000120cd max_dounicodekey(void*, void*, void*, void*, long, long, long, long) + 73
2   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0001240b max_unicodekeyup + 199
3   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x001ab4cb PatcherComponent::keyStateChangedFromContentComponent() + 201
4   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x001c0a62 PatcherContentComponent::keyStateChanged() + 20
5   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0039033c juce::ComponentPeer::handleKeyUpOrDown() + 128
6   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002d66d8 juce::HIViewComponentPeer::handleKeyEvent(OpaqueEventRef*, wchar_t) + 1098
7   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002d8cfb juce::HIViewComponentPeer::handleWindowEventForPeer(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*) + 339
8   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002d8d6b juce::HIViewComponentPeer::handleWindowEvent(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 65
9   com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x933b9f2f DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1567
10  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x933b91f6 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 411
11  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x933b9055 SendEventToEventTargetWithOptions + 58
12  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x933ed797 ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 1957
13  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x933ba380 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 2672
14  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x933b91f6 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 411
15  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x933db9bb SendEventToEventTarget + 52
16  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002d1caa juce::juce_dispatchNextMessageOnSystemQueue(bool, bool) + 630
17  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002db907 juce::MessageManager::dispatchNextMessage(bool, bool*, bool) + 79
18  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002db9c6 juce::MessageManager::runDispatchLoop() + 42
19  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002da321 juce::JUCEApplication::main(juce::String&, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 605
20  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002da3fb juce::JUCEApplication::main(int, char**, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 125
21  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x001e3c5e main + 76
22  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0000569a _start + 216
23  com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x000055c1 start + 41

Thread 1:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940db942 kevent + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940dc05c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940db519 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
3   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940db2be _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
4   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940dad41 _pthread_wqthread + 390
5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940dab86 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b515a semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940e2ca5 _pthread_cond_wait + 1066
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x94111848 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x965ba3b5 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 242
4   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x965ba0f3 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 511
5   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x965de34b TimerThread + 97
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940e281d _pthread_start + 345
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940e26a2 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b50fa mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b5867 mach_msg + 68
2   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 	0x0f5def31 XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 155
3   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 	0x0f5fd8fe MIDIProcess::RunMIDIInThread() + 150
4   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 	0x0f5e0149 XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
5   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 	0x0f5dfb16 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940e281d _pthread_start + 345
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940e26a2 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b515a semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940e2ca5 _pthread_cond_wait + 1066
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x94111848 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002d10b4 juce::WaitableEvent::wait(int) const + 122
4   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0034e157 juce::Thread::wait(int) const + 27
5   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002dc9c4 juce::InternalTimerThread::run() + 310
6   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0034e1ea juce::Thread::threadEntryPoint(juce::Thread*) + 142
7   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002d118f juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 17
8   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940e281d _pthread_start + 345
9   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940e26a2 thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9417c1b2 accept$NOCANCEL$UNIX2003 + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9417b01a accept + 32
2   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x00392699 juce::StreamingSocket::waitForNextConnection() const + 257
3   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x002152cd tcpconnection_listenthread(_tcpconnection*) + 27
4   com.cycling74.MaxMSP          	0x0006575e systhread_threadproc(void*) + 60
5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940e281d _pthread_start + 345
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940e26a2 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940da9d2 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940daf68 _pthread_wqthread + 941
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940dab86 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
  eax: 0xd55fbfff  ebx: 0x00000000  ecx: 0x004948e8  edx: 0xbfffef6c
  edi: 0x0f82dd18  esi: 0xbfff0002  ebp: 0xbfffef98  esp: 0xbfffef30
   ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010282  eip: 0x00064d8b   cs: 0x00000017
   ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037
  cr2: 0xd55fbfff

Binary Images:
    0x1000 -   0x468fe3 +com.cycling74.MaxMSP 5.1.6 (43950) (5.1.6)  /Applications/Max5/MaxMSP.app/Contents/MacOS/MaxMSP
  0xc83000 -   0xce8fcf +[Unknown Bundle] ??? (???)  [Unknown Bundle]
  0xdfb000 -   0xdfcff7 +com.cycling74.fseventwatcher 5.1.6 (43950) (43950)  /Applications/Max5/Cycling '74/extensions/fseventwatcher.mxo/Contents/MacOS/fseventwatcher
  0xf8b000 -   0xfb1ff7 +com.cycling74.MaxAPI 1.0 (1.0)  /Applications/Max5/MaxMSP.app/Contents/Frameworks/MaxAPI.framework/MaxAPI
  0xff6000 -   0xff9ffb +com.Logitech.Control Center.Scroll Enhancer Loader 3.1.0 (3.1.0)  /Library/InputManagers/LCC Scroll Enhancer Loader/LCC Scroll Enhancer Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/LCC Scroll Enhancer Loader


max-crashes-when-i-try-to-save-my-patch-ugh-why-wont-this-post-work

It looks like you have some memory corruption of some sort. The first thing would be to isolate the object that causes the 

 message to be posted in the Max window. There's a good chance that it's a third party external... you just have to find which one.

It looks like you have some memory corruption of some sort. The first thing would be to isolate the object that causes the freeobject message to be posted in the Max window. There's a good chance that it's a third party external... you just have to find which one.

Fixed! It was a 'tap.tools' external which I had removed from my system but which was still lurking in my externals folder. Thanks a million, this problem was driving me crazy.

This is what the Max window had to say when I loaded my patch this time.... what I don't understand is that it doesn't seem to do this every time.

Does this mean that there are as many corrupted externals as there are items in this list? Or is it just one which is responsible for all this?

freeobject: 10bfa160: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa2b0: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa100: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa3d0: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa220: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa310: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa490: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa370: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa430: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa4c0: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa460: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa400: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa3a0: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa340: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa2e0: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa280: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa1f0: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa130: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa0d0: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9d40: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9e90: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9ce0: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9fb0: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9e00: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9ef0: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa070: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9f50: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa010: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa0a0: bad object
freeobject: 10bfa040: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9fe0: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9f80: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9f20: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9ec0: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9e60: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9dd0: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9d10: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9c80: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9cb0: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9830: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9860: bad object
freeobject: 10bf93e0: bad object
freeobject: 10bf9410: bad object
freeobject: 10bf8f90: bad object
freeobject: 10bf8fc0: bad object
freeobject: 10bf8b40: bad object
freeobject: 10bf8b70: bad object

see if it's different if you restart Max? though either way it needs to be fixed. did you remove all those tap.tools objects from your patch?

Also Tap.Tools installs stuff in the actual application bundle on Macs so that could be an issue as well if not removed . . .

Also can you track back to an object from the Max window? 'freeobject' is sent to objects to release memory I think .

Also Tap.Tools installs stuff in the actual application bundle on Macs so that could be an issue as well if not removed  . . .
Also can you track back to an object from the Max window? 'freeobject' is sent to objects to release memory I think .
Can you post the patch?


All the tap.tools stuff is long gone (there is an uninstall applet available for this), and I have tried replacing all externals within the patch, to no avail. :-(

I have also occasionally been getting the error message 'typedmess: signal: corrupt object' when I switch on the DSP. This message shows up when the 'freeobject' message doesn't, and vice versa.

I was also surprised to find that when I list externals, all the maxmsp objects (e.g. cycle~) appear - is this normal?

My patch is too big to post (1.5MB)... is there any way around the file size limit on here?

The fact that this appears when you turn the DSP on and off really points to an external problem, likely to be third party (no offense… but there's no known issue with the standard one).

List externals list every externals, included c74 ones, this should help you to narrow the problem down.

The fact that this appears when you turn the DSP on and off really points to an external problem, likely to be third party (no offense… but there's no known issue with the standard one).
List externals list every externals, included c74 ones, this should help you to narrow the problem down.


Max crashes when I try to save my patch... (ugh! why won't this post work?)