henrik.wurster

hello, anybody tried the eobody sensor board ? working with a max patch, I

tried to connect a boss fv 500 l (low voltage) expression pedal,

took the correct cable, but it is not working properly, I just get 15

numbers and not the midi scala as with other eobody compatible foot pedals

which are just potentiometers basically. so anybody familiar with the eobody

knows maybe if the compatibility of the pedals depend on the voltage ?

there is also the boss fv 500 h (high voltage), which I did not try.maybe

this one would work because it needs no amplification? sorry if this seems

hello, anybody tried the eobody sensor board ? working with a max patch, I
tried to connect a boss fv 500 l (low voltage) expression pedal,
took the correct cable, but it is not working properly, I just get 15
numbers and not the midi scala as with other eobody compatible foot pedals
which are just potentiometers basically. so anybody familiar with the eobody
knows maybe if the compatibility of the pedals depend on the voltage ?
there is also the boss fv 500 h (high voltage), which I did not try.maybe
this one would work because it needs no amplification? sorry if this seems
off-topic, I am desperate to find
quick help before monday.

max-eobody-and-foot-pedals

> anybody tried the eobody sensor board ? working with a max patch, I 

> tried to connect a boss fv 500 l (low voltage) expression pedal, 

> took the correct cable, but it is not working properly, I just get 15 

> numbers and not the midi scala as with other eobody compatible foot pedals

> which are just potentiometers basically. so anybody familiar with the 

> eobody knows maybe if the compatibility of the pedals depend on the 

> there is also the boss fv 500 h (high voltage), which I did not 

> try.maybe this one would work because it needs no amplification? sorry 

> if this seems off-topic, I am desperate to find 

I don't know any of the gear you're mentioning, but usually sensor 

inputs expect a voltage between 0V and 5V which would then be translated 

Just read the specs of your pedals and the specs of your eobody. I am 

Expression pedals usually don't carry any voltage, they are just pots. 

The eobody has to deliver the voltage. It might be a wrong wireing of 

the cable (has to be a stereo cable to deliver the 5V, ground and tip to 

Btw. the L or H do not mean low/high voltage, they mean low/high 

henrik wurster schrieb:
> anybody tried the eobody sensor board ? working with a max patch, I 
> tried to connect a boss fv 500 l (low voltage) expression pedal, 
> took the correct cable, but it is not working properly, I just get 15 
> numbers and not the midi scala as with other eobody compatible foot pedals
> which are just potentiometers basically. so anybody familiar with the 
> eobody knows maybe if the compatibility of the pedals depend on the 
> voltage ?
> there is also the boss fv 500 h (high voltage), which I did not 
> try.maybe this one would work because it needs no amplification? sorry 
> if this seems off-topic, I am desperate to find 
> quick help before monday.

I don't know any of the gear you're mentioning, but usually sensor 
inputs expect a voltage between 0V and 5V which would then be translated 
to the 0-127 Midi range.
Just read the specs of your pedals and the specs of your eobody. I am 
sure its explained...

Expression pedals usually don't carry any voltage, they are just pots. 
The eobody has to deliver the voltage. It might be a wrong wireing of 
the cable (has to be a stereo cable to deliver the 5V, ground and tip to 
the pedal).
Btw. the L or H do not mean low/high voltage, they mean low/high 
impedance...
The low impedance should be ok...

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thanks stefan. according to the eobody it should work, but it doesnt. cable

>> anybody tried the eobody sensor board ? working with a max patch, I tried

>> to connect a boss fv 500 l (low voltage) expression pedal, took the correct

>> cable, but it is not working properly, I just get 15 numbers and not the

>> midi scala as with other eobody compatible foot pedals

>> which are just potentiometers basically. so anybody familiar with the

>> eobody knows maybe if the compatibility of the pedals depend on the voltage

>> there is also the boss fv 500 h (high voltage), which I did not try.maybe

>> this one would work because it needs no amplification? sorry if this seems

>> off-topic, I am desperate to find quick help before monday.

> I don't know any of the gear you're mentioning, but usually sensor inputs

> expect a voltage between 0V and 5V which would then be translated to the

> Just read the specs of your pedals and the specs of your eobody. I am sure

> Expression pedals usually don't carry any voltage, they are just pots. The

> eobody has to deliver the voltage. It might be a wrong wireing of the cable

> (has to be a stereo cable to deliver the 5V, ground and tip to the pedal).

> Btw. the L or H do not mean low/high voltage, they mean low/high

thanks stefan. according to the eobody it should work, but it doesnt. cable
was ok.

> henrik wurster schrieb:
>
>> anybody tried the eobody sensor board ? working with a max patch, I tried
>> to connect a boss fv 500 l (low voltage) expression pedal, took the correct
>> cable, but it is not working properly, I just get 15 numbers and not the
>> midi scala as with other eobody compatible foot pedals
>> which are just potentiometers basically. so anybody familiar with the
>> eobody knows maybe if the compatibility of the pedals depend on the voltage
>> ?
>> there is also the boss fv 500 h (high voltage), which I did not try.maybe
>> this one would work because it needs no amplification? sorry if this seems
>> off-topic, I am desperate to find quick help before monday.
>>
>
> I don't know any of the gear you're mentioning, but usually sensor inputs
> expect a voltage between 0V and 5V which would then be translated to the
> 0-127 Midi range.
> Just read the specs of your pedals and the specs of your eobody. I am sure
> its explained...
>
> Expression pedals usually don't carry any voltage, they are just pots. The
> eobody has to deliver the voltage. It might be a wrong wireing of the cable
> (has to be a stereo cable to deliver the 5V, ground and tip to the pedal).
> Btw. the L or H do not mean low/high voltage, they mean low/high
> impedance...
> The low impedance should be ok...
>
> Stefan
>
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>
>

are you sure the boss/roland work ok with eobody?? - I know eobody 

(people and gear - but don't own an eobody) and know they choose to 

use the "yamaha" wiring (which happens to be the "ircam" wiring as 

well) when it comes to exp pedals - it simply means the + and - are 

now if i understand your email you use not the "expression" pedals 

from boss (which are named "ev" not "fv") but the volume ones - 

those work, if you connect the in and out with an "insert" cable, and 

plug the "stereo" side of it in the eobody. in this case reversing 

the wiring is (I belive) just switching the in into the out and 

maybe you know all of it, sorry if it's not the answer to your problem

>anybody tried the eobody sensor board ? working with a max patch, I 

>tried to connect a boss fv 500 l (low voltage) expression pedal, 

>took the correct cable, but it is not working properly, I just get 

>15 numbers and not the midi scala as with other eobody compatible 

>which are just potentiometers basically. so anybody familiar with 

>the eobody knows maybe if the compatibility of the pedals depend on 

>there is also the boss fv 500 h (high voltage), which I did not 

>try.maybe this one would work because it needs no amplification? 

>sorry if this seems off-topic, I am desperate to find quick help 

>I don't know any of the gear you're mentioning, but usually sensor 

>inputs expect a voltage between 0V and 5V which would then be 

>Just read the specs of your pedals and the specs of your eobody. I 

>Expression pedals usually don't carry any voltage, they are just 

>pots. The eobody has to deliver the voltage. It might be a wrong 

>wireing of the cable (has to be a stereo cable to deliver the 5V, 

>Btw. the L or H do not mean low/high voltage, they mean low/high impedance...

are you sure the boss/roland work ok with eobody?? - I know eobody 
(people and gear - but don't own an eobody) and know they choose to 
use the "yamaha" wiring (which happens to be the "ircam" wiring as 
well) when it comes to exp pedals - it simply means the + and - are 
reversed (between the tip and ring)

now if i understand your email you use not the "expression" pedals 
from boss (which are named "ev"  not "fv") but the volume ones - 
those work, if you connect the in and out with an "insert" cable, and 
plug the "stereo" side of it in the eobody. in this case reversing 
the wiring is (I belive) just switching the in into the out and 
vice-versa

>
>
>henrik wurster schrieb:
>
>anybody tried the eobody sensor board ? working with a max patch, I 
>tried to connect a boss fv 500 l (low voltage) expression pedal, 
>took the correct cable, but it is not working properly, I just get 
>15 numbers and not the midi scala as with other eobody compatible 
>foot pedals
>which are just potentiometers basically. so anybody familiar with 
>the eobody knows maybe if the compatibility of the pedals depend on 
>the voltage ?
>there is also the boss fv 500 h (high voltage), which I did not 
>try.maybe this one would work because it needs no amplification? 
>sorry if this seems off-topic, I am desperate to find quick help 
>before monday.
>
>
>I don't know any of the gear you're mentioning, but usually sensor 
>inputs expect a voltage between 0V and 5V which would then be 
>translated to the 0-127 Midi range.
>Just read the specs of your pedals and the specs of your eobody. I 
>am sure its explained...
>
>Expression pedals usually don't carry any voltage, they are just 
>pots. The eobody has to deliver the voltage. It might be a wrong 
>wireing of the cable (has to be a stereo cable to deliver the 5V, 
>ground and tip to the pedal).
>Btw. the L or H do not mean low/high voltage, they mean low/high impedance...
>The low impedance should be ok...


this is really nice. I already returned the boss. got a yamaha instead which

is crap.I still don`t get why it didn't work. I tried all available cables

> are you sure the boss/roland work ok with eobody?? - I know eobody (people

> and gear - but don't own an eobody) and know they choose to use the "yamaha"

> wiring (which happens to be the "ircam" wiring as well) when it comes to exp

> pedals - it simply means the + and - are reversed (between the tip and ring)

> now if i understand your email you use not the "expression" pedals from

> boss (which are named "ev" not "fv") but the volume ones - those work, if

> you connect the in and out with an "insert" cable, and plug the "stereo"

> side of it in the eobody. in this case reversing the wiring is (I belive)

> just switching the in into the out and vice-versa

> maybe you know all of it, sorry if it's not the answer to your problem

> anybody tried the eobody sensor board ? working with a max patch, I tried

> to connect a boss fv 500 l (low voltage) expression pedal, took the correct

> cable, but it is not working properly, I just get 15 numbers and not the

> midi scala as with other eobody compatible foot pedals

> which are just potentiometers basically. so anybody familiar with the

> eobody knows maybe if the compatibility of the pedals depend on the voltage

> there is also the boss fv 500 h (high voltage), which I did not try.maybe

> this one would work because it needs no amplification? sorry if this seems

> off-topic, I am desperate to find quick help before monday.

this is really nice. I already returned the boss. got a yamaha instead which
is crap.I still don`t get why it didn't work. I tried all available cables
on the market.

>  hi
>
> are you sure the boss/roland work ok with eobody?? - I know eobody (people
> and gear - but don't own an eobody) and know they choose to use the "yamaha"
> wiring (which happens to be the "ircam" wiring as well) when it comes to exp
> pedals - it simply means the + and - are reversed (between the tip and ring)
>
> now if i understand your email you use not the "expression" pedals from
> boss (which are named "ev"  not "fv") but the volume ones - those work, if
> you connect the in and out with an "insert" cable, and plug the "stereo"
> side of it in the eobody. in this case reversing the wiring is (I belive)
> just switching the in into the out and vice-versa
>
> maybe you know all of it, sorry if it's not the answer to your problem
>
> best
>
> kasper
>
>
>
>
> henrik wurster schrieb:
>
>
> anybody tried the eobody sensor board ? working with a max patch, I tried
> to connect a boss fv 500 l (low voltage) expression pedal, took the correct
> cable, but it is not working properly, I just get 15 numbers and not the
> midi scala as with other eobody compatible foot pedals
> which are just potentiometers basically. so anybody familiar with the
> eobody knows maybe if the compatibility of the pedals depend on the voltage
> ?
> there is also the boss fv 500 h (high voltage), which I did not try.maybe
> this one would work because it needs no amplification? sorry if this seems
> off-topic, I am desperate to find quick help before monday.
>
>
> I don't know any of the gear you're mentioning, but usually sensor inputs
> expect a voltage between 0V and 5V which would then be translated to the
> 0-127 Midi range.
> Just read the specs of your pedals and the specs of your eobody. I am sure
> its explained...
>
> Expression pedals usually don't carry any voltage, they are just pots. The
> eobody has to deliver the voltage. It might be a wrong wireing of the cable
> (has to be a stereo cable to deliver the 5V, ground and tip to the pedal).
> Btw. the L or H do not mean low/high voltage, they mean low/high
> impedance...
>
> The low impedance should be ok...
>
>
>
>

>this is really nice. I already returned the boss. got a yamaha 

>I still don`t get why it didn't work. I tried all available cables 

anyhow yamaha pedals ARE crap - but the roland /boss DO work, i am 

also the M-audio have a "reverse" switch - works like roland OR yamaha

>this is really nice. I already returned the boss. got a yamaha 
>instead which is crap.
>I still don`t get why it didn't work. I tried all available cables 
>on the market. 
>

anyhow yamaha pedals ARE crap - but the roland /boss DO work, i am 
sure (have seen it) with eobody

yes the yamaha expression pedal works with the eobody. the cable is already

built in. the boss pedal was recognised automatically, but did not deliver a

good range and the light of the eobody was always flickering, so I suppose

there was something wrong with the amplification of the signal. it is a

shame since the people from eobody told me that any expression pedal would

work with the eobody. the boss pedal was the only metal pedal (dont know if

ernie ball would work the eobody) with a good feel, and It was very

expensive. I do not really understand this, because there is just supposed

to be a simple potentiometer. I am very frustrated with eobody. these people

do not help you at all, you have to be a real "nerd" or electrician and you

always have to figure out everything by yourself. is this product worth 200

euro ? sorry for being off-topic, I apologise.

> this is really nice. I already returned the boss. got a yamaha instead

>> I still don`t get why it didn't work. I tried all available cables on the

> anyhow yamaha pedals ARE crap - but the roland /boss DO work, i am sure

> also the M-audio have a "reverse" switch - works like roland OR yamaha

yes the yamaha expression pedal works with the eobody. the cable is already
built in. the boss pedal was recognised automatically, but did not deliver a
good range and the light of the eobody was always flickering, so I suppose
there was something wrong with the amplification of the signal. it is a
shame since the people from eobody told me that any expression pedal would
work with the eobody. the boss pedal was the only metal pedal (dont know if
ernie ball would work the eobody) with a good feel, and It was very
expensive. I do not really understand this, because there is just supposed
to be a simple potentiometer. I am very frustrated with eobody. these people
do not help you at all, you have to be a real "nerd" or electrician and you
always have to figure out everything by yourself. is this product worth 200
euro ? sorry for being off-topic, I apologise.

> this is really nice. I already returned the boss. got a yamaha instead
>> which is crap.
>> I still don`t get why it didn't work. I tried all available cables on the
>> market.
>>
>
> does the yamaha  work??
>
> anyhow yamaha pedals ARE crap - but the roland /boss DO work, i am sure
> (have seen it) with eobody
>
> also the M-audio have a "reverse" switch - works like roland OR yamaha
>
> best
>
> kasper
>
>

>yes the yamaha expression pedal works with the eobody. the cable is 

>already built in. the boss pedal was recognised automatically, but 

>did not deliver a good range and the light of the eobody was always 

>flickering, so I suppose there was something wrong with the 

>amplification of the signal. it is a shame since the people from 

>eobody told me that any expression pedal would work with the eobody. 

>the boss pedal was the only metal pedal (dont know if ernie ball 

>would work the eobody) with a good feel, and It was very expensive. 

>I do not really understand this, because there is just supposed to 

>be a simple potentiometer. I am very frustrated with eobody. these 

>people do not help you at all, you have to be a real "nerd" or 

>electrician and you always have to figure out everything by 

>yourself. is this product worth 200 euro ? sorry for being 

my impression is they are very helpful (but that's your opinion, so....)

but i did use quite a lot of expression/volume pedals (yes including 

all sort of ernie balls - and roland/boss as well) and they work 

If the yamaha works, teh roland would have worked as well - as you 

say it's just a pot (and yes the L pedals have a nice "response 

>yes the yamaha expression pedal works with the eobody. the cable is 
>already built in. the boss pedal was recognised automatically, but 
>did not deliver a good range and the light of the eobody was always 
>flickering, so I suppose there was something wrong with the 
>amplification of the signal. it is a shame since the people from 
>eobody told me that any expression pedal would work with the eobody. 
>the boss pedal was the only metal pedal (dont know if ernie ball 
>would work the eobody) with a good feel, and It was very expensive. 
>I do not really understand this, because there is just supposed to 
>be a simple potentiometer. I am very frustrated with eobody. these 
>people do not help you at all, you have to be a real "nerd" or 
>electrician and you always have to figure out everything by 
>yourself. is this product worth 200 euro ? sorry for being 
>off-topic, I apologise.

but i did use quite a lot of expression/volume pedals (yes including 
all sort of ernie balls - and roland/boss as well) and they work 
(even with eobody)

If the yamaha works, teh roland would have worked as well - as you 
say it's just a pot (and yes the L pedals have a nice "response 
curve" that he H series - or so i think)

hi kasper, this is what they wrote me back:

To connect any pedals, the tip & ring of the pedal jack must be inverted.

can you believe that? it doesn not work, I was talking to guy at the local

music store, who was building foot pedals and he told me that it would never

> yes the yamaha expression pedal works with the eobody. the cable is already

>> built in. the boss pedal was recognised automatically, but did not deliver a

>> good range and the light of the eobody was always flickering, so I suppose

>> there was something wrong with the amplification of the signal. it is a

>> shame since the people from eobody told me that any expression pedal would

>> work with the eobody. the boss pedal was the only metal pedal (dont know if

>> ernie ball would work the eobody) with a good feel, and It was very

>> expensive. I do not really understand this, because there is just supposed

>> to be a simple potentiometer. I am very frustrated with eobody. these people

>> do not help you at all, you have to be a real "nerd" or electrician and you

>> always have to figure out everything by yourself. is this product worth 200

>> euro ? sorry for being off-topic, I apologise.

> my impression is they are very helpful (but that's your opinion, so....)

> but i did use quite a lot of expression/volume pedals (yes including all

> sort of ernie balls - and roland/boss as well) and they work (even with

> If the yamaha works, teh roland would have worked as well - as you say it's

> just a pot (and yes the L pedals have a nice "response curve" that he H

hi kasper, this is what they wrote me back:
Hi Henrik,

To connect any pedals, the tip & ring of the pedal jack must be inverted.
(see manual).

can you believe that? it doesn not work, I was talking to guy at the local
music store, who was building foot pedals and he told me that it would never
work

> yes the yamaha expression pedal works with the eobody. the cable is already
>> built in. the boss pedal was recognised automatically, but did not deliver a
>> good range and the light of the eobody was always flickering, so I suppose
>> there was something wrong with the amplification of the signal. it is a
>> shame since the people from eobody told me that any expression pedal would
>> work with the eobody. the boss pedal was the only metal pedal (dont know if
>> ernie ball would work the eobody) with a good feel, and It was very
>> expensive. I do not really understand this, because there is just supposed
>> to be a simple potentiometer. I am very frustrated with eobody. these people
>> do not help you at all, you have to be a real "nerd" or electrician and you
>> always have to figure out everything by yourself. is this product worth 200
>> euro ? sorry for being off-topic, I apologise.
>>
>
> well.......
>
> my impression is they are very helpful (but that's your opinion, so....)
>
> but i did use quite a lot of expression/volume pedals (yes including all
> sort of ernie balls - and roland/boss as well) and they work (even with
> eobody)
>
> If the yamaha works, teh roland would have worked as well - as you say it's
> just a pot (and yes the L pedals have a nice "response curve" that he H
> series - or so i think)
>
> anyhow
>
>
> best
>
> kasper
>

> I still don`t get why it didn't work. I tried all available cables on 

If you don't know how to wire cables, its unlikely you found all 

available cables on the market. Shops don't deal with special needs, it 

If I need it special I have to solder it myself...

henrik wurster schrieb:
> I still don`t get why it didn't work. I tried all available cables on 
> the market. 

If you don't know how to wire cables, its unlikely you found all 
available cables on the market. Shops don't deal with special needs, it 
would confuse normal customers...
If I need it special I have to solder it myself...

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stefan, this is the boss foot expression pedal.

http://www.rolandcorp.com.au/images/products/FV-500H_FV500Hlarge.jpg

it does not work with the eobody. and this one

http://www.activemusician.com/images/store/small/EM_FV-500L.gif

> If you don't know how to wire cables, its unlikely you found all available

> cables on the market. Shops don't deal with special needs, it would confuse

> If I need it special I have to solder it myself...

stefan, this is the boss foot expression pedal.
http://www.rolandcorp.com.au/images/products/FV-500H_FV500Hlarge.jpg
it does not work with the eobody. and this one
http://www.activemusician.com/images/store/small/EM_FV-500L.gif
neither works.

> henrik wurster schrieb:
>
>> I still don`t get why it didn't work. I tried all available cables on the
>> market.
>>
>
> If you don't know how to wire cables, its unlikely you found all available
> cables on the market. Shops don't deal with special needs, it would confuse
> normal customers...
> If I need it special I have to solder it myself...
>
> Stefan
>
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>
>

On May 26, 2008, at 2:16 PM, henrik wurster wrote:

It looks like the eobody has an unusual configuration for their 1/4" 

(this is from the eobody manual, which I found here: 

http://www.analoguehaven.com/eowave/eobody2/manual.pdf)

It looks like the eobody has an unusual configuration for their 1/4"  
TRS Jacks:
Tip: +5V
Ring: signal
Sleeve: ground

(this is from the eobody manual, which I found here: http://www.analoguehaven.com/eowave/eobody2/manual.pdf)

I think a more normal config is
Tip: signal
Ring: +5V
Sleeve: ground

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

thanks for looking this up, chris. I tried a plastic pedal from proehl, it

worked. plastic pedal from yamaha, it worked.I am getting the impression

that the company wants to sell their own pedals(they sent me proehl instead

I wanted a nicer one, like the boss with a different feel and it did not

work. sorry for blaming, but I think the boss does not work.

max, eobody and foot pedals