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Max4Live 6.1 64x Convolution reverbs doesn't work

January 31, 2013 | 3:36 am

Hi

No matter if drop presets or wav IR’s onto the track/convolution reverb plugin doesn’t work

Waveform and IR section seems to be inactive. I tried to reinstall Max and latest Live 9 beta that didn’t solve the problem.

When i turn Dry/Wet knob up to 100% the track became silent.

I’m running Win7 Ultimate 64bit on my Dell XPS 16 w/ 8GB RAM

please have a look the screenshot attached.

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January 31, 2013 | 4:52 am

Hi,

Please use the Ableton beta forum to report Live 9 beta issues and follow their status.

http://beta.ableton.com/abl01

Thanks

-A


February 2, 2013 | 3:29 am

Fwiw, this is a known issue and waiting on the 64 bit port of Alex Harker’s objects. It will be in a future update.


February 6, 2013 | 10:43 am

FWIW – This is fixed now – not sure when it will reach testers, but the build issue causing the problem has been resolved. Keep an eye out for an updated version….


March 8, 2013 | 10:27 am

Hi, i have the same problems with the convolution reverb.
I am running live 9 suite + max for live 6.1, both 32bit, mac os x 10.5.8.
do you know how to fix this problem?

Thanks


March 8, 2013 | 10:46 am

hey djkit,

please contact support@ableton.com about this issue.

Thanks!
Christian


March 8, 2013 | 11:11 pm

@djkit: I too have the same problem, 32bit Mac OSX 10.5.8. I have contacted Ableton Support and am awaiting a response.

_Dave_


March 9, 2013 | 2:10 am

FWIW, it sounds like the OS requirements for the convolution reverb objects may currently be 10.6 and higher.


March 9, 2013 | 11:10 pm

I have got the same problem and indeed I am on Mac OSX 10.5.8.


March 13, 2013 | 1:57 pm

Just heard back from Ableton support. They suggested that my Quicktime version might have been an older one. I checked the Apple website, and my system profiler, and Quicktime 7.7 which is installed in my mac is the newest available for OSX 10.5.8. They also suggested that if I had run any beta versions of Live 9 that I go deep and delete files from that install b/c the previous convolution reverb was incompatible(?). I didn’t do any beta versions, so that doesn’t apply to me either. Finally, they suggested that I delete and re-install Live 9 and Max 4 Live just in case I left the Live 9 DMG mounted while I installed Max 4 Live, which is know to cause problems. They said if none of these helps to send them a screen shot of the problem. So… I will (again) uninstall and re-install LIve 9 and Max 4 Live, taking special care to unmount the Live 9 dmg b4 installing Max 4 Live (although I’m pretty sure I did that the last two times I went through this procedure…) When that doesn’t work, I will get some screen shots and send them off. I’ll update this thread if I find out anything else.

_Dave_


March 13, 2013 | 3:18 pm

An update to my update:
I re-installed Live 9 and Max4Live, making sure that the Live 9 dmg was not mounted while installing Max4Live. Still have the same problem. I sent a report to Ableton support including screenshots showing that no signal is getting through the reverb when it is set to full "wet". (I placed a spectrum analyzer at the output to emphasize this.) Will update again when I hear anything…

_Dave_


March 13, 2013 | 4:30 pm

FWIW, until anyone reports successful loading under 10.5.8, I would assume it is your OS Version.

If you right click on the Max for Live device’s title bar and select open max window, are there error messages, and what are they?


March 13, 2013 | 4:49 pm

Hi Joshua,

Here’s what was reported in the max window:

————
Object Message
multiconvolve~: unable to load object bundle executable
iraverage~: unable to load object bundle executable
irstats~: unable to load object bundle executable
bufresample~: unable to load object bundle executable
morphfilter~: unable to load object bundle executable
irdisplay~: unable to load object bundle executable
recursivefolder: unable to load object bundle executable
Gen working in runtime mode
————

Thanks for your input!

_Dave_


March 14, 2013 | 2:41 pm

The same errors are reported on my computer.
It seems there’s a problem with these externals and OSX 10.5.8


March 22, 2013 | 6:23 pm

Ableton support emailed me last week to say they are working on a fix for this. Today, I installed Live 9.0.2 update, even though Ableton’s change list didn’t mention this problem. No change in behavior with 9.0.2 unfortunately. I have notified Ableton support that I’m still having the problem. Will advise when I hear anything…

_Dave_


March 25, 2013 | 10:02 pm

Hi All

I hope to have a fix rolled out very soon. I expect you’ll need to reinstall the Max For Live Essentials Pack when the fix is released.

Sorry for the wait….

Alex


March 26, 2013 | 2:41 am

@AlexHarker: Awesome! Thank you sir!

_Dave_


March 26, 2013 | 12:06 pm

yes i am running the same issue, also running osx10.5.8
had the problem since the beta version , now i am waiting for that fix :)


March 26, 2013 | 5:38 pm

A fix for 10.5 32bit version has been merged so check for that soonish.

64bit is a more complex issue that I cannot entirely fix from my end, so I can’t be too specific on what to expect with that. It is being looked at.

Alex


March 26, 2013 | 6:42 pm

Thank you Alex!

_Dave_


April 25, 2013 | 12:44 am

Same problem here. Where can I find the fix when it’s available?

Thanks,
Cody


June 13, 2013 | 7:53 am

Hi All,

I’ve got the same pb , also under 10.5.8
Is there any fix update available somewhere? I looked for it @ ableton but didn’t find anything.

Thanks,
Laurent


June 13, 2013 | 8:55 am

Hi All

just like to say have same problem, runnin OS X 10.6.8 and ableton 9.0.4 and still no Convolution Reverb working for me. Spoke to ableton today they are aware of the problem but could not tell me when it will be fixed!!!
If theres any work around or fix would love to know..

Many thanks

Max


June 13, 2013 | 9:41 am

Hello All,

As far as I know the latest version of the Max For Live Essentials pack should work for 32 bit on 10.5.8. I am unsure of the status for 64 bit on 10.5.8 because I don’t have a machine with that system on, and the issues remaining for those systems were not at my end (so I am unable to fix them).

@Max – There is no known issue (that I am aware of) with OS 10.6.8 – can you confirm you mean 10.6 and not 10.5, and exactly what issue you are seeing – also are you working with 32bit or 64bit Live?

Thanks

Alex


June 13, 2013 | 11:19 am

Hi Alex

I have the same problem as the original post no sound when wet is 100%.
no matter what preset i chose or even any IR you drag in No Sound and you cant see anything in the display window its blank. I am on OSX 10.6.8,
Ableton 9.0.4 32bit, and M4L 6.1.2,

i’m not sure i’m running the latest version of the Max For Live Essentials pack.
Has it been updated? and how can i check i’m up to date?

Many Thanks
Max


June 13, 2013 | 12:13 pm

It has been updated at one point since release, but the release version should work on 10.6.8 anyway (the development was all on 10.6.8). If you were running a pre-official release date version, then it is very possible that it is not the right one.

Two things to do to figure out what is happening I guess:

1 – Download the max for live essentials pack again from here:

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/max-live-essentials/

and re-install it.

2 – Check if that runs correctly. If not then ctrl-click the title bar of the device and bring up the max window. Send me the contents here or offlist.

Thanks

Alex


June 13, 2013 | 1:36 pm

Hi Alex

Thanks for your help on this much appreciated.
I have re-installed a new max for live essentials pack, and it is still the same. I have attach a screen shot for you of max window open hope thats what you are after?
once again many thanks

Max

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June 18, 2013 | 1:48 am

OK – sorry for the delay. That is helpful in a way, in that it suggests that the buffer~ object is unable to open the file. That’s unhelpful in so much as I can’t help you out further with this as buffer~ is a standard object and I don’t know the considtions that would lead to this particular error message. I’ve put in an email to c74 to see if they have any ideas.

Alex


June 18, 2013 | 1:35 pm

Hi MACMAX,

The error would indicate that Max is unable to read a certain audio file that the Convolution Reverb device is using. As far as I am aware, this is not a general problem.

We have just released Max 6.1.3, you may want to see if that helps your issue:

http://cycling74.com/downloads/

If that doesn’t seem to help, please fill out the Bug Reporting Form here:

http://cycling74.com/max6-bug-form/

Thanks,
-Ben


August 7, 2013 | 1:50 pm

Hi All,

I’m a new user of Max purchased with live 9.0.5 suite, and I’ve got exactly the same issue :
no sound with cursor on 100% Wet. Not possible to drag an IR file and no selection is possible (no text in the boxes "Type" and "IR")

configuration : mac os 10.5.8 (32bit) – max version 6.1.3 – Live 9.0.5 (32 bit) – and "max for live essentials pack" downloaded today from ableton web site.

Can you give us fresh news … ?
and do you want me to fill out a bug report ?

Above my configuration :
{
"version" : "Version 6.1.3 (ac9dafd)",
"platform" : "mac",
"arch" : "x86",
"osversion" : "Mac OS X Version 10.5.8 i386",
"samplerate" : 44100,
"iovs" : 512,
"sigvs" : 64,
"scheduler_in_audio_interrupt" : "off",
"audio_drivername" : "Core Audio",
"audio_driver_subname" : "",
"eventinterval" : 2,
"overdrive" : "off",
"mixerparallel" : "off",
"mixercrossfade" : 0,
"mixerlatency" : 30.0,
"mixerramptime" : 10.0
}

Thanks for you answer !
Hubert

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August 7, 2013 | 4:24 pm

@Ben and @Alex – re : buffer can’t read file issue – actually, i have the same issue since max 6.1, which i didn’t have prior to that. It seems buffer~ can’t read a file that doesn’t have an extension (but which is still an audio file in a format accepted by buffer~, and that can be read anywhere else). At least if you instantiate the buffer with name of said file ; ie [buffer~ env hanning] won’t load a file named "hanning" and report the parser error.


August 7, 2013 | 11:21 pm

@Bawrll: Please contact ableton support – they have a version which also works on your 10.5.8 system. This version will be made available to the public soonish.


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