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					<title><![CDATA[[max5] mxj and attributes list]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>micha</dc:creator>

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						<p>hi there!</p>
<p>beside hating the new over-antialiased look and loving (most of) the new features, i am missing something:</p>
<p>with normal objects, you can click on an inlet, and you will be represented a list with the available attributes. there you can choose one and a message box gets automatically created, a function which i really find handy. </p>
<p>but: with java externals this doesn&#8217;t seem to work &#8211; you won&#8217;t even see the exposed attributes (which was working in max4)?</p>
<p>
micha</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Léopold Frey</dc:creator>

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					<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>micha</dc:creator>

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						<p>yepp, i know it is a big improvement, this is why i am so keen on it. but: that i now don&#8217;t even see the declared attributes of a java external is rather a step backwards! </p>
<p>hm, i am little disappointed that there are no replies to this (ben?), as there is obviously a function missing, that was working before.</p>
<p>btw: what do you mean with the todo list?</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Joshua Kit Clayton</dc:creator>

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					<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Léopold Frey</dc:creator>

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						<p>> hm, i am little disappointed that there are no replies to this (ben?), as there is obviously a function missing, that was working before.</p>
<p>Tomorrow is Labour Day. I hope c74 will have a day off ;)</p>
<p>> btw: what do you mean with the todo list?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_list#Task_list" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_list#Task_list</a></p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: [max5] mxj and attributes list]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>topher lafata</dc:creator>

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						<p>the mxj attributes are in their own world and were done before the  <br />
rest of max had attributes.<br />
they were based on the notion of jitter attributes but implemented  <br />
separately. the mxj attribute<br />
system wasn&#8217;t brought up to date during the max5 overhaul so can&#8217;t  <br />
take advantage of this stuff.<br />
once it is is line it will be able to. i have no idea whether this  <br />
will happen or not.<br />
t</p>
<p>On Apr 30, 2008, at 05:19 AM, micha wrote:</p>
<p>><br />
> yepp, i know it is a big improvement, this is why i am so keen on  <br />
> it. but: that i now don&#8217;t even see the declared attributes of a  <br />
> java external is rather a step backwards!<br />
><br />
> hm, i am little disappointed that there are no replies to this  <br />
> (ben?), as there is obviously a function missing, that was working  <br />
> before.<br />
><br />
> btw: what do you mean with the todo list?</p>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Léopold Frey</dc:creator>

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					<title><![CDATA[Re: [max5] mxj and attributes list]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>micha</dc:creator>

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						<p>thanks joshua and topher for the insights, i forgot that there is of course a bridging layer involved between the java and the max world. nevertheless it is a great pity that this hasn&#8217;t been updated, esp. under the aspect what leopold just wrote, that you have to open the source code to see what functions etc. are valid. </p>
<p>ok, so i keep waiting ;-)&#8230;</p>
<p>ps: please (while talking about todos), add a &#8220;anti-alias 0&#8243; option to the interface &#8211; i can&#8217;t find a proper font and size setting that makes economical use of the screensize and won&#8217;t give me a headache after a couple of minutes of working with max&#8230;</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>micha</p>
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