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		<title>Cycling 74  &#187;  Topic: Max/MSP won&#039;t start with RME HDSP MADI</title>
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					<title><![CDATA[Max/MSP won&#039;t start with RME HDSP MADI]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>aengus</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just installed a RME HDSP MADI card into a PC which has just this<br />
morning had a fresh install of Windows XP SP2 (3Ghz P4 in an Asus<br />
P4C800-E motherboard, Radeon 9600XT graphics card). When I try to run<br />
Max/MSP, the splash screen gets as far as &#8220;initializing etable&#8221; and<br />
then it crashes, disappearing completely, with no error message<br />
whatsoever. The RME drivers are the most recent from the RME website.<br />
Google reveals no known issues with this set up.</p>
<p>In a quick test, Plogue Bidule seemed to work perfectly with the card.</p>
<p>Has anyone experienced anything similar with Max? Is there any useful<br />
log file I should look at?</p>
<p>thanks,</p>
<p>Aengus.</p>
<p>____________________<br />
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max/MSP won&#039;t start with RME HDSP MADI]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Drsbaitso</dc:creator>

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						<p>Do you have quicktime (alternative) installed?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max/MSP won&#039;t start with RME HDSP MADI]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 01:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>aengus</dc:creator>

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						<p>Neither quicktime nor quicktime alternative is installed.</p>
<p>Might this make a difference?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Aengus.</p>
<p>PS: I have some additional information, which only confirms that the<br />
problem is to do with the audio/dsp side of things: when I delete all<br />
of the ~ objects from the max-startup folder, then max starts ok, but<br />
crashes as soon as a ~ object is placed in a patcher. It seems that<br />
the reason the splash screen reads &#8216;initializing etable&#8217; just before<br />
max crashes on startup, is that the ezdac~ object is the first ~<br />
object that max tries to load and it comes alphabetically straight<br />
after the etable object in the max-startup folder.</p>
<p>On 7/28/06, binez0r <maxmaster11 @comcast.net> wrote:<br />
><br />
> Do you have quicktime (alternative) installed?<br />
></maxmaster11></p>
<p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max/MSP won&#039;t start with RME HDSP MADI]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 03:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Drsbaitso</dc:creator>

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						<p>yep, max won&#8217;t start.  That error you&#8217;re getting is because of it I think.  I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don&#8217;t you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max/MSP won&#039;t start with RME HDSP MADI]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 04:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>aengus</dc:creator>

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						<p>I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website<br />
before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were<br />
the same as before.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who<br />
mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI<br />
before&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for your help.</p>
<p>Aengus.</p>
<p>On 7/28/06, binez0r <maxmaster11 @comcast.net> wrote:<br />
><br />
> yep, max won&#8217;t start.  That error you&#8217;re getting is because of it I think.  I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don&#8217;t you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.<br />
></maxmaster11></p>
<p>
&#8211; <br />
____________________<br />
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max/MSP won&#039;t start with RME HDSP MADI]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>aengus</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Just a follow up to my RME HDSP MADI + Max/MSP problems, in case<br />
anyone has this issue in future: After trying many things, I removed<br />
all of the drivers from the /ad and /midi folders, and replaced them<br />
one by one, trying to start max each time. Turns out it was the<br />
Directsound and MME drivers, which must have some problem with the<br />
HDSP MADI drivers. Leaving those drivers out, I can output 64-channels<br />
of audio using the RME ASIO drivers. This, incidentally, is very cool.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Aengus.</p>
<p>On 7/28/06, Aengus Martin <aengus @am-process.org> wrote:<br />
> I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website<br />
> before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were<br />
> the same as before.<br />
><br />
> Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who<br />
> mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI<br />
> before&#8230;<br />
><br />
> Thanks for your help.<br />
><br />
> Aengus.<br />
><br />
> On 7/28/06, binez0r <maxmaster11 @comcast.net> wrote:<br />
> ><br />
> > yep, max won&#8217;t start.  That error you&#8217;re getting is because of it I think.  I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don&#8217;t you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.<br />
> ><br />
><br />
><br />
> &#8211;<br />
> ____________________<br />
> <a href="http://www.am-process.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.am-process.org</a><br />
></maxmaster11></aengus></p>
<p>
&#8211; <br />
____________________<br />
<a href="http://www.am-process.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.am-process.org</a></p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Max/MSP won&#039;t start with RME HDSP MADI]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/maxmsp-wont-start-with-rme-hdsp-madi/#post-81043</link>
					<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>f.e</dc:creator>

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						<p>Great news ! I was very anxious about that, for my next performance gear <br />
will be all MADI only&#8230;</p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>f.e</p>
<p>f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music<br />
> >>>>>> <a href="http://www.personal-computer-music.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.personal-computer-music.com</a><br />
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|</p>
<p>
Aengus Martin wrote:<br />
> Hi,<br />
><br />
> Just a follow up to my RME HDSP MADI + Max/MSP problems, in case<br />
> anyone has this issue in future: After trying many things, I removed<br />
> all of the drivers from the /ad and /midi folders, and replaced them<br />
> one by one, trying to start max each time. Turns out it was the<br />
> Directsound and MME drivers, which must have some problem with the<br />
> HDSP MADI drivers. Leaving those drivers out, I can output 64-channels<br />
> of audio using the RME ASIO drivers. This, incidentally, is very cool.<br />
><br />
> Best,<br />
><br />
> Aengus.<br />
><br />
><br />
><br />
> On 7/28/06, Aengus Martin <aengus @am-process.org> wrote:<br />
>> I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website<br />
>> before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were<br />
>> the same as before.<br />
>><br />
>> Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who<br />
>> mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI<br />
>> before&#8230;<br />
>><br />
>> Thanks for your help.<br />
>><br />
>> Aengus.<br />
>><br />
>> On 7/28/06, binez0r <maxmaster11 @comcast.net> wrote:<br />
>> ><br />
>> > yep, max won&#8217;t start.  That error you&#8217;re getting is because of it I <br />
>> think.  I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty <br />
>> clearly. Why don&#8217;t you try installing quicktime alternative then <br />
>> posting the results.<br />
>> ><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> &#8212; <br />
>> ____________________<br />
>> <a href="http://www.am-process.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.am-process.org</a><br />
>><br />
><br />
></maxmaster11></aengus></p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>gnuchoi</dc:creator>

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						<p>A BIG Thanks to Aengus! It works perfectly. Surprisingly this problem still exists anyway.</p>
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